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Leaderboard Disputes / ATTN: Mariosonic15
« on: April 08, 2014, 11:22:11 pm »
(this topic assumes you are familiar with unlimited colors manipulation on emulator)
http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_colors_wii/bosses/terminal_velocity_boss
I believe this was achieved via emulator
my resources of belief:
this persons video remains but no trace of his stat im guessing because he was banned? but this time was done with emulator 2:26:80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERaPSrLNMRc (also note imazor017's run)
also this
http://www.soniccenter.org/guides/sonic_colors_wii/guide395
while this guide is unverified he knows what he is talking about but again this person is describing an emulated run Backed up by that video I posted above. (if you take it frame by frame)
I've also noticed you have ds SRA TAS runs on youtube and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuqjSziTXZs which seems like a bugged out version of sonic colors.
the missing piece is video proof is a verified console run (which I have but have yet to upload atm) of a "perfect combination run" with fast hits and the quickest cube segment you can hope for on phase 3 according to the footage of my run vs the emulated run the only difference is about .3 seconds on the final hit before unlimited colors, and obviously his unlimited colors activating well before mine. turns into me losing well over a second
edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuFJC9tap8w&feature=youtu.be this is a good resource to compare to the first link I realize this is overwhelming if you never played ( even to some who have played) but for those who have the time, I want to try an provide all the tools necessary alert people what to look for.
of course without a video I cant confirm 100% this is an emulator. but with all this, this is the closest I can be, that I can believe this time was achieved via emulator without one. Basically your time is more on par with guides and videos of emulated runs of this boss; that is why im calling this into question.
http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_colors_wii/bosses/terminal_velocity_boss
I believe this was achieved via emulator
my resources of belief:
this persons video remains but no trace of his stat im guessing because he was banned? but this time was done with emulator 2:26:80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERaPSrLNMRc (also note imazor017's run)
also this
http://www.soniccenter.org/guides/sonic_colors_wii/guide395
while this guide is unverified he knows what he is talking about but again this person is describing an emulated run Backed up by that video I posted above. (if you take it frame by frame)
I've also noticed you have ds SRA TAS runs on youtube and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuqjSziTXZs which seems like a bugged out version of sonic colors.
the missing piece is video proof is a verified console run (which I have but have yet to upload atm) of a "perfect combination run" with fast hits and the quickest cube segment you can hope for on phase 3 according to the footage of my run vs the emulated run the only difference is about .3 seconds on the final hit before unlimited colors, and obviously his unlimited colors activating well before mine. turns into me losing well over a second
edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuFJC9tap8w&feature=youtu.be this is a good resource to compare to the first link I realize this is overwhelming if you never played ( even to some who have played) but for those who have the time, I want to try an provide all the tools necessary alert people what to look for.
of course without a video I cant confirm 100% this is an emulator. but with all this, this is the closest I can be, that I can believe this time was achieved via emulator without one. Basically your time is more on par with guides and videos of emulated runs of this boss; that is why im calling this into question.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 07, 2014, 10:41:49 pm »
Well~ I guess that leaves me then.
Though I like what you said in the first half of the paragraph directed at me, the 2nd half is pretty unfair. since ive even made an anti bertin WR run and him and me are best friends. but I understand we all have different senses of humor; thus I understand if anyone was offended.
I kinda addressed it, and at the same time I for the most part dodged this when sdm, and don brought it up. (because its off topic.) this isn't about me. I full on plan to go back to that "special place" yall put me after this is done with.
but I also mentioned we all can agree that we love competition, and that's my only drive here, and I think the rule is very important to achieve this goal. Now since I don't know how much time I'll have left. I hope people keep pounding on and defending this rule, and because we all still trust in the trust system (at least those who understand tsc founding all the way back in the ole rolken days), this rule is perfect for us. before an all emulator ban. which for the final record: im against, IF this rule, (and because I believe in the foundation of tsc) it CAN fix this, without compromising the trust system.
~ sayonara, hedgehog
Edit to the thorn post: nah, I think your post is fair enough were I don't need to post a rebuttal. other then fairly new tsc members challenging sdm's stances. Im kinda bias cuz he seemed to be on my side. but I understand its kinda annoying for some one whose been around as long as sdm (actively or inactively) for a 1 year old member; or just a couple of years members, to tell sdm how it should be. back to what I said before ( angry ppl are the loudest lol)
edit3: I guess my point is saying... do you earnestly believe someone who is purposely tasing and sumbitting, knowing that they shouldnt, is gona stop because of an emulator ban? when they can just say lol console
Though I like what you said in the first half of the paragraph directed at me, the 2nd half is pretty unfair. since ive even made an anti bertin WR run and him and me are best friends. but I understand we all have different senses of humor; thus I understand if anyone was offended.
I kinda addressed it, and at the same time I for the most part dodged this when sdm, and don brought it up. (because its off topic.) this isn't about me. I full on plan to go back to that "special place" yall put me after this is done with.
but I also mentioned we all can agree that we love competition, and that's my only drive here, and I think the rule is very important to achieve this goal. Now since I don't know how much time I'll have left. I hope people keep pounding on and defending this rule, and because we all still trust in the trust system (at least those who understand tsc founding all the way back in the ole rolken days), this rule is perfect for us. before an all emulator ban. which for the final record: im against, IF this rule, (and because I believe in the foundation of tsc) it CAN fix this, without compromising the trust system.
~ sayonara, hedgehog
Edit to the thorn post: nah, I think your post is fair enough were I don't need to post a rebuttal. other then fairly new tsc members challenging sdm's stances. Im kinda bias cuz he seemed to be on my side. but I understand its kinda annoying for some one whose been around as long as sdm (actively or inactively) for a 1 year old member; or just a couple of years members, to tell sdm how it should be. back to what I said before ( angry ppl are the loudest lol)
edit3: I guess my point is saying... do you earnestly believe someone who is purposely tasing and sumbitting, knowing that they shouldnt, is gona stop because of an emulator ban? when they can just say lol console
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 07, 2014, 09:24:41 pm »I am merely extending your own logic rather than using my own. My personal opinion is that emulators should stay as is, we've been catching BSers lately, and that means that we have been able to discern fake from real stats without any addition to the competetive system.
I swear if I see this stuff suggesting this rule is to catch a bser one more time...
Its a not a bser we are after, period. its emulations flaws.
If a byproduct of the rule is that people purposely TASing stop competing, good!
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Information Kiosk / The Official Grey Area of the New Rule
« on: April 07, 2014, 09:10:06 pm »
I was really hoping someone else would actually start this, to move the new rule along. This thread is to ask questions regarding the new rule, ranging from super serious, to tin foil hat conspiracies (which might not even get acknowledged.)
Also please note, while this thread will cover potential serious issues I.E. (at least IMO) android and Ios stuff, don't expect it to be jumped onto quickly, unless there's a super serious unforeseeable flaw.
things I think should possibly be brought up in this thread:
- android, Ios
- possible exemptions (complaints that may or may not come in)
- things that are acceptable proof for emulators (IMO I think needs to be addressed rather quickly actually and have a set in stone policy)
- official PC sonic games ( I didn't want to bring this up in the main thread as to not muddy things further but this falls into android, Ios discussion to me)
you get the point... if you have a question, or a concern ask it/discuss it here.
Also please note, while this thread will cover potential serious issues I.E. (at least IMO) android and Ios stuff, don't expect it to be jumped onto quickly, unless there's a super serious unforeseeable flaw.
things I think should possibly be brought up in this thread:
- android, Ios
- possible exemptions (complaints that may or may not come in)
- things that are acceptable proof for emulators (IMO I think needs to be addressed rather quickly actually and have a set in stone policy)
- official PC sonic games ( I didn't want to bring this up in the main thread as to not muddy things further but this falls into android, Ios discussion to me)
you get the point... if you have a question, or a concern ask it/discuss it here.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 06, 2014, 11:38:36 am »
Im up for the complete ban, I just mentioned we don't need to do it~ one day we were all about protecting the precious casuals and now we are not.
if official and unofficial emulators both have save states what is the convenience issue that is being argued?
if official and unofficial emulators both have save states what is the convenience issue that is being argued?
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 06, 2014, 11:26:18 am »
don I'll be honest. I have to drink heavily to become competitive, for me it seems to slow down the game and gives me more reaction time. that is a convenience for me, that others don't get to share. we should ban beer would be your argument. (which I really would leave then lol)
There is no such way to implement a 1:1 be all fairness, and what your arguing isn't a problem because as slim as a chance it may be, lets take sdm's record with the 40 min setup time... its still POSSIBLE, possible, that is the key word.
I know your going to keep posting your soliloquy, but you can make more threads for these if it seems like a huge problem.
There is no such way to implement a 1:1 be all fairness, and what your arguing isn't a problem because as slim as a chance it may be, lets take sdm's record with the 40 min setup time... its still POSSIBLE, possible, that is the key word.
I know your going to keep posting your soliloquy, but you can make more threads for these if it seems like a huge problem.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 06, 2014, 10:54:39 am »
oh come on now, attacking convenience is kind of silly. maybe we should all turn off our A/C's because our Uganda buddy timpz mentioned plays without A/C and that gives us a competitive edge because we are comfortable while we play. Which is part of competing. Lets not go there.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 06, 2014, 10:27:50 am »Can we not just implement this last line of defense before shutting down the whole damn thing? If we -still- have trouble after that then I would be okay with banning emulation. But for now, I'd like to at least see how this rule pans out for us.
yes, hit the button, do it.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 06, 2014, 10:15:12 am »
The problem I see with this topic derailing agian, and talking about banning all unofficial emulators cuz we have smc with savestates so problem solved, as don mentioned is~
Yah sure we could, but I mean we dont have to. This rule provides us with all the checks and balances we need to combat the problem
dare I say with this rule allowing unofficial emulators still could be helpful? Remember we are granfathering stats in, if we allow people to keep playing on emulators they could potentially figure out enough information to ultimately conclude one of the grandfathered stats is in no way possible on console; in a sense helping with clean up.
Yah sure we could, but I mean we dont have to. This rule provides us with all the checks and balances we need to combat the problem
dare I say with this rule allowing unofficial emulators still could be helpful? Remember we are granfathering stats in, if we allow people to keep playing on emulators they could potentially figure out enough information to ultimately conclude one of the grandfathered stats is in no way possible on console; in a sense helping with clean up.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 05, 2014, 05:19:00 pm »
Ok, even between just us im still pretty confused on what we all agree and disagree about. Plus a lack of variety on people putting in their two cents (which I believe is making everyone a bit nervous in acting either way). I think the lack of a big variety of opinion though, is because the lack of people this will actually affect.
Can I suggest we just go ahead with the rule now. (if its not already going.) with NO changes, no exceptions, nothing, but what parax said in post #1?
Then wait for other threads of complaints to pop up when/if they do with "ACTUAL" people this rule is effecting and adjust the rule accordingly?
Can we agree on that?
Can I suggest we just go ahead with the rule now. (if its not already going.) with NO changes, no exceptions, nothing, but what parax said in post #1?
Then wait for other threads of complaints to pop up when/if they do with "ACTUAL" people this rule is effecting and adjust the rule accordingly?
Can we agree on that?
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 05, 2014, 02:08:29 pm »
I thought when we were talking about ring exemptions we were talking about sonic 3d blast type of crap. if your the only record holder and someone claims to tie you with an emulator, yes of course, we need video.
it wont be that big of a change, just a severly small group has to provide proof now. nobody in mhc wants to talk about this cuz they dont care, "with the it wont affect me" thing.
it wont be that big of a change, just a severly small group has to provide proof now. nobody in mhc wants to talk about this cuz they dont care, "with the it wont affect me" thing.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 05, 2014, 01:31:27 pm »
I say no on an emulator ban unless it comes with a site nuke and we call this tsc 4.
yes to the rule, and yes to top 5.. I ment to adress is earlier about 6th being pushed into 5th, I believe they should be grandfather'd. if you were 6th and now 5th ur more then likely still beatable. the only senerio where this fails is 1 - 6 use emulator and top 5 get nuked... which I believe is highly unlikely
on the flip side we could go back to the roots and require all emulator runs to provide proof, honestly though we will have people posting their 87th place with emulator with this, but for the record im for top 5
yes to exempting tied ring records
yes to the rule, and yes to top 5.. I ment to adress is earlier about 6th being pushed into 5th, I believe they should be grandfather'd. if you were 6th and now 5th ur more then likely still beatable. the only senerio where this fails is 1 - 6 use emulator and top 5 get nuked... which I believe is highly unlikely
on the flip side we could go back to the roots and require all emulator runs to provide proof, honestly though we will have people posting their 87th place with emulator with this, but for the record im for top 5
yes to exempting tied ring records
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 05, 2014, 12:30:13 pm »
don with all due respect, your free to make another thread complaining about how we should require proof for your concerns on official backwards compatible devices. and people be more then happy to debate and ultimately knock it down. (for reasons everone seems to get) but as sdm keeps mentioning your really do keep going off topic whether you know it are not.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 05, 2014, 11:54:54 am »
Everytime I say something you misinterpret me. why would we require proof for a gamecube game being played on wii? this is official and intended by nintendo. thus any console user, with a copy of the game can do it.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 05, 2014, 11:27:37 am »
I think the rule should extend only as far as games you didn't purchase (unofficial) and/or playing on a device/in a way not intended by the orginal developers.
if anyone can take their official game, down load it to a hard drive on a console, and not by say a homebrew way. that shouldnt be a problem
if anyone can take their official game, down load it to a hard drive on a console, and not by say a homebrew way. that shouldnt be a problem
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 04, 2014, 07:01:43 pm »Ok, honestly? This topic is dumb. It should feel dumb because it is.
Telling me any sort of weird compromise will become a permanent (or even an acceptable) solution and not just an eventual ploy for full proof in the end? That's bullshit.
Telling me this is not about trust? That's bullshit. (And this is exactly what I've been trying to get across - you may not be targeting it, but directly or indirectly, it is still being targeted whether you like it or not).
noooo... that is what a pinhead says. there's no rule making you verify if you're using an emulator or console... we have to take you for your word on that.
I get it hyper, what your saying is your afraid this new rule will expose on a wide scale how bad this problem is, and cause mass public out cry for an all out ban. In reality how this rule will be implemented is it will take many years (you might even be dead of old age by that time) to build up a huge archive of emulator runs. most of which people will only care if it happens to be a WR run, and said console person is really wanting to go for the WR. If you stand back and look at TSC as a whole with all the current rules and regulations, its is a very tiny rule.
While grandfathering in 10 years of records is even a hard pill for me to swallow; honestly I hate this the most. It is never to late to start a rule like this. Sonic games are still being made to this day, and new emulators will still be made, and as time goes on we now have a way to protect old charts that may have not been affected, and protecting future charts.
People are discussing s1 gba chart... idk if that is serious but I actually own that game. This would be a great start for the new rule.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 04, 2014, 03:19:32 pm »
ugh... WHAT!!! comeon! This is what we been saying lol. we just suggested changing it after night one to protect casuals. and I also like the addon about non time stats.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 04, 2014, 09:52:09 am »
it will be a positive affect for everyone, even for the tiny % that have to submit video. competitors in the top 5 of this site will like the reasurance that the illegitimate device they are using is not compromising the top tier of the charts. because we know they want to play fairly too.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 04, 2014, 09:41:48 am »
no y'see that is the oppisite of what I just said.
if you want to talk about pissing people off a blanket ban on emulators will nuke some or all of ff's and bertins gamegear stats just to name two big ones.
with this rule if you like your stat you can keep your stat. period. if you like your run you can submit your run period.
with all this precious time being saved using emulators you have more then enough time left over to attach your video file along side... this really isnt that hard.
if you want to talk about pissing people off a blanket ban on emulators will nuke some or all of ff's and bertins gamegear stats just to name two big ones.
with this rule if you like your stat you can keep your stat. period. if you like your run you can submit your run period.
with all this precious time being saved using emulators you have more then enough time left over to attach your video file along side... this really isnt that hard.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 04, 2014, 08:31:02 am »
Not quite sure why you think this rule wil stop casuals, but an out right emulator ban wont?
but hey you mentioned emulator ban... sure lets do it? but this rule IS the compromise why would you not want to try a new rule so we can still preserve emulators. because an out right ban isnt a compromise, its zero tolerance.
I believe the issue your having is being able to distinguish that an emulator IS an illegitimate gaming device.
people arent changing out their cpu, ram, graphics cards in their sega Genesis so we dont have accuracy issues there.
now if this was about eliminating all bsers period your points would be valid... but thats simply not what this is
but hey you mentioned emulator ban... sure lets do it? but this rule IS the compromise why would you not want to try a new rule so we can still preserve emulators. because an out right ban isnt a compromise, its zero tolerance.
I believe the issue your having is being able to distinguish that an emulator IS an illegitimate gaming device.
people arent changing out their cpu, ram, graphics cards in their sega Genesis so we dont have accuracy issues there.
now if this was about eliminating all bsers period your points would be valid... but thats simply not what this is
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 03, 2014, 11:24:53 pm »
well.. in the perfect world we would like to know all stats are perfectly legit. tsc is of course about the honor system, that will never change :) . thats why I like this rule it doesnt just protect hardcore legit console players it really also protects ppl competing on tsc that have no intention to cheat but their emulator may have done something illegal and can potentially be sorted out by the community. I've said I trust everyone here and I do, without mentioning names we've even had mods cave to the pressure of tsc's moral and admit to wrong doings. so I of course support this... I wish some of mhc would speak up about this too .. >_>
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 03, 2014, 10:41:00 pm »
you said a lot there that I didnt dare say but really does need to be said. this would be a good check point/ tag/ sticky if possible in the discussion.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 03, 2014, 10:13:19 pm »
the rules are consistant across devices... but an emulator is an illegitimate device. and more actions are being taken against them to synchronize fairness.
and you are welcome to play devils advocate. because atm on the flip side emulator user has the advantage over a console so how would you fix it? sugesstions on making the rule better without stripping its core are very welcome
and you are welcome to play devils advocate. because atm on the flip side emulator user has the advantage over a console so how would you fix it? sugesstions on making the rule better without stripping its core are very welcome
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 03, 2014, 09:39:32 pm »
I'm not sure why people are against this idea. This stamps out most forms of any emulator faults or Tool-Assisted runs. I'm not even sure why we didn't require emulator proof from the outset when i joined.
Now for something i want answered.
Of the people posting against the rule in this thread, Who is now unable to compete because of this rule change?
I wont go as far to say im suspicious but it really is actually making me kinda nervous the attacks against this; with all the misinformation that is being spewed out about this im still optimistic that most people are for this if they knew the exact facts. it seems like a common sense solution. you brought up TASer though, which would be a legit bser. which cannot be stopped without enacting rules that REALLY would make everyone mad. we are still on the honor system
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 03, 2014, 08:09:05 pm »
Hypersonic, I want to show you a real life example that impacts you and actually everyone else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQn-D7WsXxc
and before you blast that this is just one level, let me explain. Watching the fps the whole video I dropped one frame at the beginning 2 more frames during the fight and dropped 2 frames at the same time during the last hit before unlimited colors (there was like a 3 frame drop on 3 phase cube but that's actually more in line of what actually happens on console) my time was 2:28:16 (which took me like 5 mins compared to console but lets keep it simple here.) I tied dss the only reason I didn't beat you was because I hit the wrong button on the last hit.
now without explaining all this and having an fps counter it looks like a normal run. compare it with the console. should I be able to submit this time? no, because I basically cheated. but I didn't do anything funny, my computer just snagged up. (like I've stated before I have a very high end computer)
Now lets say you don't have an fps counter, this run at first glance looks normal. WHAT THIS RULE DOES is still permits you to submit that run, assuming you have good intentions in mind. later down the road someone can pull up that run that is playing the game legitimately on a console and call you out if that time is "absolutely" not possible on a console.
im not in charge but im assuming you wont get banned, because this rule assumes you have good intentions, but the emulator has messed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQn-D7WsXxc
and before you blast that this is just one level, let me explain. Watching the fps the whole video I dropped one frame at the beginning 2 more frames during the fight and dropped 2 frames at the same time during the last hit before unlimited colors (there was like a 3 frame drop on 3 phase cube but that's actually more in line of what actually happens on console) my time was 2:28:16 (which took me like 5 mins compared to console but lets keep it simple here.) I tied dss the only reason I didn't beat you was because I hit the wrong button on the last hit.
now without explaining all this and having an fps counter it looks like a normal run. compare it with the console. should I be able to submit this time? no, because I basically cheated. but I didn't do anything funny, my computer just snagged up. (like I've stated before I have a very high end computer)
Now lets say you don't have an fps counter, this run at first glance looks normal. WHAT THIS RULE DOES is still permits you to submit that run, assuming you have good intentions in mind. later down the road someone can pull up that run that is playing the game legitimately on a console and call you out if that time is "absolutely" not possible on a console.
im not in charge but im assuming you wont get banned, because this rule assumes you have good intentions, but the emulator has messed up.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 03, 2014, 02:30:32 pm »
man... idk what to tell you, I keep telling you this isnt about bsers and its blowing right over your head
if the suggestion is also implemented this this only affects hardcore competitors that ONLY use emulators... cant see a mass tsc exit from that.
if the suggestion is also implemented this this only affects hardcore competitors that ONLY use emulators... cant see a mass tsc exit from that.
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 03, 2014, 01:51:18 pm »
the only mistake here is parax mentioned that it will crack down on cheaters. it wont, if u purposely submit a video with obvious tas that's stupid, no one will do that im tired of harping on how this is not intended for legitimate bsers. I want to tear my hair out.
imo its a lot better the have a set number cut off at top 3 or 5. I feel %'s will just confuse. and the main goal of thia rule is to protect the hardcore competitor, period. this suggestion tackles potential casuals period.
the point about a new game comes out so you cant submit cuz theres only 3 players should never ever be a problem
imo its a lot better the have a set number cut off at top 3 or 5. I feel %'s will just confuse. and the main goal of thia rule is to protect the hardcore competitor, period. this suggestion tackles potential casuals period.
the point about a new game comes out so you cant submit cuz theres only 3 players should never ever be a problem
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 03, 2014, 11:57:56 am »
parax has said they are open to ideas to make the rule better, and so far alot of the arguements are just straw men arguements wanting to completely strip the rule, while at the same time admitting the rule will have little to no effect to them.
having time sleeping on it I wanted to make a suggestion that we only make video mandatory when a WR is achieved? ( or maybe top 3 or top 5)
I think this would protect the casuals while also protecting the hardcore competitors, and also making the window of people it will actually affect drastically smaller?
having time sleeping on it I wanted to make a suggestion that we only make video mandatory when a WR is achieved? ( or maybe top 3 or top 5)
I think this would protect the casuals while also protecting the hardcore competitors, and also making the window of people it will actually affect drastically smaller?
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 02, 2014, 11:36:30 pm »
I would only kinda disagree with, that you would have to acknowledge not only would an emulator have to be 100% to be accurate (if that's even possible) but the computer its being used on would have to be 100% (no random hiccups)
I like the point dark polar brought up about casuals because most of use start out as casuals here I just don't know how many of us start out as casuals on emulators, that should be looked into.
The beauty I see with this, is if one day joe speed runner wakes up and says "hey I want to be the record holder on so&so chart" and goes all in on it. this will ensure that's chart remains beatable by keeping an archived history of the emulated run, making sure an illegitimate max wasn't created by a computer hiccup. (legit bser and max record aside)
an aside point... why wouldn't you want to show off your speed runs?
that's it for me tonight... think this is a good thing, but hey
I like the point dark polar brought up about casuals because most of use start out as casuals here I just don't know how many of us start out as casuals on emulators, that should be looked into.
The beauty I see with this, is if one day joe speed runner wakes up and says "hey I want to be the record holder on so&so chart" and goes all in on it. this will ensure that's chart remains beatable by keeping an archived history of the emulated run, making sure an illegitimate max wasn't created by a computer hiccup. (legit bser and max record aside)
an aside point... why wouldn't you want to show off your speed runs?
that's it for me tonight... think this is a good thing, but hey
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News and Updates / Re: New rules regarding emulators
« on: April 02, 2014, 10:34:02 pm »
sdm are you for or against emulation for competition? I never got the chance to read that. and I personally probably wouldn't of cared at the time. but after running into this problem multiple times personally, and having a great understanding of what potientaily is happening on a large scale is scary to me. dont get me wrong I still am who I am, I also understand the zero tolerance against me. but what we can all agree on is the love of competition and I think this is important
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