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While doing an RA for Silent Forest 3 in Sonic Lost World on PC I noticed one thing; In the second part that you get to by using bounce on purple ice there are ice crystals that give you rings. When you collect all rings from them, go backwards and then forward some of them will reappear. Said crystals will have rings again thus making it possible to infinitely farm rings on them (or at least until the time limit's out). This was tested on PC version, not sure about the Wii U one.

EDIT: In fact, going out of the area with said crystals and then going back makes them respawn.

Information Kiosk / Re: Some suggestions and questions regarding charts
« on: November 01, 2015, 10:24:05 am »

Oh... I've never seen that.

Also, I just thought of something;
About rings charts in boss stages: Sonic 3D Blast has rings charts for bosses and there are barely any not maxed stats.

Wikkity! / Re: Halloween Topics! Final: Your Halloween Plans
« on: October 31, 2015, 05:19:14 am »
Everything, that I normal do every other day. I know; I'm boring.

Information Kiosk / Re: Some suggestions and questions regarding charts
« on: October 28, 2015, 09:00:29 am »
we use to have a place dedicated for fan made games that didn't go very well. but the real problem I think, was the only way to get to it was clicking a small random icon with no description attached to it in the left side bar. I was here for like 4 or 5 years before I learned it existed, and now its gone... and if its still some where in anyform they are hiding it even better now.

At this point I dont think anyone would be against adding fan made games or extra charts to existing games, the real road block we have is that theres only like one person here who knows how to add charts to this site, and that person is busy like all the time.

You mean this site: ? It seems to be down. Do you remember how this icon looked like maybe? Just wondering.

Wikkity! / Re: Halloween Topics! 2: Creepiest Song/Soundtrack/Music Video
« on: October 28, 2015, 08:56:14 am »
Tomb of the Ancients from Rayman 2. I choose that one, because I can't think of any other spooky songs (I guess...).

Information Kiosk / Re: Some suggestions and questions regarding charts
« on: October 27, 2015, 01:09:36 pm »
Regarding S2/S2-13, I personally think banning slot machines is stupid. I've actually tried attempting maxes via slot machines in S2, and it took me an average of 8 hours (and I believe some people discredited the charts because it was "easy to max" iirc). Additionally, it actually gets somewhat close between score grinding with perfect bonus (assuming its possible) vs. 999 with score grinding (because I was never left with too much time to do grinding anyways).

OK, I see the point.

Regarding SADX, those charts used to exist and actually still do (but you can't submit to them) if you know how to look. Personally I feel that's a bit of an iffy one. Comparing it to SA2 is not the same; SADX depends on ? boxes and SA2 does not, so it was easier to tell in SA2 just how many rings you dug up etc. With SADX, its entirely possible you can lose track and pick up additional ring(s) without knowing it, and due to the nature of random boxes, the world may never know.

Again, I see the point, but in SADX, despite the fact that there are ? ring boxes, there's still a rule: "Rings you dig up and collect as Knuckles don't count.". I should have mentioned that in the main post.

Regarding Heroes...well, that's 9 easy maxes (Chaotix CP requires you to get rings, and you already can't use the back ring for RA purposes). Chaotix CP I think has an easy max too, not sure. Additionally "banning slot machines" would be very hard to enforce considering you're controlling 3 members, not just one.

Oops... I guess I forgot what was CP objective for Chaotix and the fact, that your teammates can basically get rings for you in slot machines. It's probably because I hadn't played Sonic Heroes for quite a while now...

I don't have a strong opinion on SA boss ring/score charts either way. I don't really see an outstanding reason to deny them (but almost all charts would be easily maxable, since the 5k time bonus limit would be rigid in many cases, since that takes 1 minute to start dropping).

Look at e.g. Special charts for Sonic 1 (46 out of 72 players have max stats) and Rings charts for S3D (42 out of 83 players have max stats). They have easy maxable stats, yet they still exist.
About the scores; Chaos 0 would definetely be easily maxable, but Final Egg for Gamma is easily maxable too (51 out of 114 have max score) and it still exists. Perfect Chaos on the other hand would be pretty interesting (i guess) because of the fact, that your ring count keeps lowering and there's a limited supply of them too.

Re: Glitchless runs

What would be defined as a glitch? Let's start with that.

Well, I guess it depends on a game. In most of Genesis games (and their remakes perhaps) there are zips and slope glitch. As for Adventure games; continuously dying and hitting the same enemy to complete treasure hunting stages in ~5 seconds, while not a glitch, is a pretty big abuse of something the creators didn't probably notice.
Also, still in SADX: Tails Flight glitch (mainly in Speed Highway), Clipping glitches (mainly in Sonic's Casinopolis, Ice Cap and Lost World), Time Stop glitch (Sonic's Casinopolis and Twinkle Park), Jumping out of the rollercoaster (Sonic's Twinkle Park), Gravity glitch (Lost World), This:
In SA2B:Clipping glitches, Sonic's Bounce glitch.
In Shadow: "infinite" Chaos Control glitch.
In Sonic '06: ... I guess the "High Jump Landing" glitch (Omega, Knuckles and Rouge: the glitch, where, when landing on ground the character is sent up high), no abusing of Purple Gem (Sonic), Silver's Air Dash glitch (the one, where he flies forwards farther than he's supposed to).
In SU360 and SG: M-Speed, D-Speed and Clipping glitch.
In most racing games: doing a lap without actually doing it (e.g. Sonic R - spiining in place near the begging), Respawn Glitch (All Stars Racing)

Those are just few examples, but in general: glitchless run would probably be considered a run, where you didn't purposely use any glitches that give you clear advantage.

Wikkity! / Re: Halloween Topics! 1: Spookiet Game Experience
« on: October 27, 2015, 12:23:08 pm »
Mine would be playing Spooky's House of Jumpscares (that title though). The only thing is, I've already known what was going to happen by then, but I get scared REALLY fast and that was still pretty "spooky" to me.

Wikkity! / Re: Halloween Topics!
« on: October 26, 2015, 05:20:45 pm »
Yay <3! I loved your topics for the December last year. I hope TSC community wakes up with your Halloween Topics and I hope to see more topics like that from you :D.

Information Kiosk / Some suggestions and questions regarding charts
« on: October 26, 2015, 02:40:19 pm »
Well, I've been on this site for a while now and I would like to suggest some ideas for charts and ask some questions regarding them:

Super Sonic Charts for:
-Sonic 1 for Android
-Sonic 2
-Sonic 2 for Android
-Sonic 3
-Sonic & Knuckles
-Sonic Lost World (WiiU)
-Sonic Lost World (3DS)

Let's Start off with Sonic 4 Episode I and II and Sonic Colors (Wii). They have their Super Sonic Charts and in Sonic Generations there's no restriction regarding Super Sonic, so why not add SS charts in games listed above?

Ring & Score Charts for:

-Casino Night Zone in Sonic 2
-Twinkle Park and Lost World in Sonic Adventure
-Casino Park and BINGO Highway in Sonic Heroes

As for S2: there's 10 minute limit and in Marble Zone 2 from Sonic 1 and Launch Base Zone 1 & 2 you can use a glitch that could give you infinite points if not for the time limit.
As for SADX: in Knuckles' stages there's a rule, that doesn't allow getting infinite rings through digging, so why not make a rule in TP and LW saying: "you can't press a button spawning rings more than once"? Also in SA2B if you DO pick up rings that make you brake the rules BUT if you keep the track of how many rings have been obtained that way, you can simply substract them from your total.
As for SH and S2: Maybe you could add a rule saying, that you can't get any rings through slot machines? (Something similiar to Knuckles and Rouge stages in SA2B)

Score Charts for:

-Sonic Heroes
-Sonic Unleashed PS3/360

As for SH: Maybe a rule disallowing competitors to use the glitch, that gives you infinite points? In SA2B (City Escape, Metal Harbour and all mech stages) there's a restriction to how many times you can get certain score bonus (e.g. max 20 cars in CE).
As for SU360: My argument is the same as for SH, but there are some stages that dont have any glitch, that allow for infinite combo bonuses (Windmill Isle 1 maybe?) So maybe add at least those?

Ring and eventually Score Charts for Boss stages in:

-Sonic Adventure
-Sonic Adventure 2
-Sonic Heroes
-Shadow The Hedgehog
-Sonic Unleashed PS3/360
-Sonic Colors (Wii)
-Sonic Generations
-Sonic Generations (3DS)

I know "maxing ring stats would be really easy", but Sonic 4 Episode I and II and Sonic '06 have ring charts for bosses, so why not?

Also how about adding some of the more popular hacks/fan-games, like Sonic After and Before the Sequel or The S Factor?

That's all I wanted to suggest and ask (well, at least for now anyway...) so thanks for reading this wall of text.


General Sonic / Sonic Lost World on Steam
« on: October 07, 2015, 09:59:33 am »
I don't know if you already know about it, but Sonic Lost World is coming for Steam (PC) in 2nd of November.
What do you guys think about it?

Gaming and Grazing / Re: Friend Code and ID Megathread
« on: March 20, 2015, 05:04:04 pm »
3DS: 1049-0599-1874
Steam: Dawid8404
PSN: Dawid8404

-Rayman (1, 2, 3 and GBA titles)
-Pokemon (Main and Mystery Dungeon series)
-Crash Bandicoot (1, 2, 3, Wrath of Cortex, Twinsanity)
-Spyro (1, 2, 3)
-Marble Blast Gold (Playing on mod "Marble Blast Platinum)
-Mario (Mostly Super Mario games)
-Gothic (1, 2, 3)
-Legend of Zelda (Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask FTW!)
-Mafia (1)
-Super Smash Bros (Brawl and 3DS)
-Ratchet & Clank (1, 2, 3, Gladiator)
-Tekken (5)
-Sonic (No sh*t Sherlock)

Hiya Folks / Re: Hello?
« on: March 03, 2015, 06:37:26 am »
Hello. We hope You enjoy the competition and wish You good luck :).

Hiya Folks / Re: Hey Everyone!
« on: February 07, 2015, 01:49:14 pm »
Have fun and enjou Your stay on TSC. Also, if You want any advice about strats, You can always check videos and guides or just ask someone :).

General Sonic / Re: which special stage do you hate the most?
« on: February 07, 2015, 01:46:18 pm »
Sonic Heroes. Hate those special stages.

Competition Central / Re: Your Personal Best Stat on TSC
« on: January 30, 2015, 04:05:32 pm »
Mine would be: Final Zone (Sonic 1 16-bit) and Desert Ruins 3 (both normal and hard, in SLW 3DS (thanks Rooster)) and Frozen Factory 3 (Normal, also in SLW 3DS). I feel so happy with these stats :D.

Gaming and Grazing / Re: Friend Code Megathread
« on: January 29, 2015, 04:42:16 pm »
3DS: 1049-0599-1874

Information Kiosk / Re: Sonic Lost World 3DS
« on: January 01, 2015, 10:38:30 am »
OK, Thanks.
I have another question though.
There are many stages, that have respawning badniks.
Can you destroy them multiple times to get high score?
I'm asking this, because Time Attack mode doesn't tell your score (It only gives you your time) and story mode has time limit (e.g. Desert Ruins 1 has alot of respawning badniks and a 20-minute limit.).
BTW; Launch Base Zone Act 1 and 2 in Sonic 3 also has similar gimmick; there are respawning birds and a 10-minute time limit.

Wikkity! / Re: FINAL TOPIC! Topic 14 - What Sonic Character matches you?
« on: December 31, 2014, 07:10:03 pm »
I've got Blaze. I'm not surprised.

Sonic Colors Wii, Sonic Lost World Wii U, Sonic Black Knight, Sonic Secret Rings and Sonic Generations 3DS.
Unfortunately SG 3DS is only game I can buy, because I have 3DS, but I don't have Wii or Wii U.

Wikkity! / Re: Topic 13 - Who's your favorite character?
« on: December 31, 2014, 07:18:40 am »
4.Fang a.k.a. Nack

I'm getting some money. Then at 29th I'm getting more money because of my Name-day. Yay~.

Wikkity! / Re: Predictions for 2015!!!
« on: December 24, 2014, 05:16:59 am »
1.Get in top 20 worldwide.
2.Get in orange zone in Sonic Heroes, Sonic 2 and Sonic 3.
3.Get in Yellow zone in Sonic '06, Shadow the Hedgehog and probably in Sonic Unleashed PS3/360.
4.Get first place in Sonic Lost World 3DS (or at least get to Orange Zone).
5.Get rid of at least 300 AntiRecords.
6.Get in Green Zone in Sonic 4 Episode I, II Metal, Sonic 1 13, Sonic CD 11, Sonic Generations and Sonic Triple Trouble.
7.Buy Rush, Rush Adventure and Colors DS and get to at least Green Zone.
8.Be happy untill someone wrecks all of this.
9.Cry sadly.

Wikkity! / Re: Topic 6 - What's your favorite soundtrack from a Sonic game?
« on: December 24, 2014, 05:07:46 am »
Eggman Showdown from Lost World, Crisis City both from Generations and all 4 versions in '06, Death Egg Robot and Big Arm from Generations, Jeh Jeh Rocket and Wrapped in Black from Rush, Open Your Heart from Adventure, With Me from Black Night and Volcano Valley 1 & 2 from Sonic 3D Blast/Flickies Island for Mega Drive/Genesis.

Wikkity! / Re: Topic 5 - What's your WORST stat on TSC?
« on: December 22, 2014, 05:58:41 pm »
All races in Sonic Adventure series and Special Stages in Sonic Heroes. I hate them and I have no idea how to get better stats on them.

Wikkity! / Re: How you came up with your username!
« on: December 21, 2014, 04:58:04 pm »
Well... Dawid is my actual name in my native language and 8404 are just random numbers :/

Wikkity! / Re: Do you speedrun non-Sonic games?
« on: December 21, 2014, 04:55:30 pm »
I speedrun (Or at least try to) also Mario, Rayman, Spyro the Dragon, Crash Bandicoot and Ratchet & Clank games.

City Escape, Pyramid Cave and Final Rush from SA2. I don't know why, but I simply love them, even though the first time I played them was on PS3 a year ago.

Wikkity! / Re: Topic 4 - What's your favorite competition category?
« on: December 21, 2014, 04:42:19 pm »
For me it depends on game, but in most cases I like score and ring attacks the most. I don't really like speedruning, because I fail alot and get mad very easily D:<.

Information Kiosk / Sonic Lost World 3DS
« on: December 21, 2014, 05:30:23 am »
I've got a question regarding Sonic Lost World on 3DS:
Can you use RC vehicles/Super Sonic/Items brought to a stage in ring and score stats?
I'm asking that, because the only information about not being able to use them applies only to time stats.
I take it, that you can't use ring boxes in score and ring stats, but what about others, like shields?
Thank you.

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