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well you sure are on late..having a weekend blast party or something? waaaaay past your bed time young FR7!

SR2 isn't super interesting for me but I would watch it whenever you get it up. look at my SR3 time, it sucks... I could have 22 or 21 but I always mess up at the end trying to get to the chao platform...if only shadow had a bounce ball. my SR2 sucks too but that was with a old route and I didn't play much, I could probably do 24 pretty easy.

so sub 27 is almost possible huh? wow... even PK only sees 27.5, so you must have some great cuts over him finally. super coooooool!

And to think that if he never played it the level would likely still be at 31...(maybe 30?) competition rules... we should thank him for helping take FC2 to insanity, and CE2 from a sucky 33.95 to a perfect 32.95.



Not much to say about RH3?  I wonder why..that time is incredible. It's probably about as perfect as sub 1:06.5 on CE3 would be, maybe close to sub 1:06? not sure....even with my best checkpoint splits, I thought 59.69 was perfection (as in no one would even get close) but he got damn close..maybe the pulley is slower at the beginning? or he's just insane. I actually sent him a personal congratulations last night because the time is so good.

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No matter how you turn it, I'm definitely in third. =D

ya'll just don't stop over-crediting me.. I can't believe Brian thinks he's third... he's not even close to second. how in the world can someone who is 6th in the game overall and ranked SECOND overall in the times division be worse than someone like me who is only good at one type of level? come on Brian.. you're #1 by far at the moment. don't be silly!

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hey everybody

sorry for such an abrupt disappearance, there's some hurricanes going on around here and my power died and I am just now able to get on. when you live far from the city like me, you're the last priority and it takes forever to get it back. But I am alive! No damage!

FR7, holy shiiiiit man! FC2 27.6!!!!!!!!!!! you blew the hell out of that level! PK *HAS* to be challenged big time by that one. Crazy. Near perfection?

SR sweep, M2 and M3 records sound like perfection to me. You said you got one or two or them taped! Awesome! You ARE the FR, SR, FC *****MASTA******** beyond anybody's skill. Forever! SR5 sounds really crazy too.. DO YOU HAVE PROOF? :P i know that's getting old, I will never use it again

Looks like superstar almost beat my GH record too...I checked the new video, his route is definitely a little bit faster. Too bad I really suck at it :( it will be tough to get the record back once taken, and of course 23.

And did anybody see rayku's new RH3 time? it's insanity, I figured perfection would be 59.70...he got damn close! wonder what perfection really is.. 59.5? insane.....too bad he doesn't have a video, but I trust him. He's been around for way longer than me, he's one of the original sa2 kings!

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1-Paragod
2(since we can't put 1.5)-PoT
3-Me

NO NO NO NO NO

1. Brian
2. FR7
2. Paragod

yes, we're tied now. get a sweep or two more and I am a definite third. :P

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AWESOME SHIT RIGHT THERE!!!! 44.1 would be max, but is anyone THAT crazy?

if it was a level I liked as much as CE, yes. I am that crazy. I could do it.

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it's not 39/41? you don't count talon's records anymore?

:(

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Ok I'm sorry I'll stop hating my 2:08..it's just with the 2 big mistakes and the outdated beginning strategy I don't like it!

speaking of beginning strategies, you really need to check this video out. Maybe you already do it, I don't know but I never did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkH3MhpD0Vw

Instead of jumping off the first rail to the platform and spindashing, he just jumps from rail to rail but somehow has way more speed than I could ever get..he appears to save anywhere from 0.3-0.5 sec doing so compared to our way! that's enough right there alone to improve your 2:07 to 2:06.

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hehe no I didn't even get to Sky Rail, I couldn't get past the boarding section in City Escape at the beginning of the hero story!

man, you used to suck so much beyond belief, how did you ever get so good? I did better than that when I was 12 years old playing SA2 for the first time on DC!!

we sure have Brian, we've been doing awesome for just a short year! I can't believe you mentioned everything but FC1 for FR7..that time is easily his craziest of them all.

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That will most likely change should you break my record though! I think we can all say we are better now than we were in 2008, can't we?

Knowing you, yes, it will change quite quickly ;) Am I just being over-confident about 2:06's do-ability though, is the question.

heck yes, we are both way better than we were in 2008. In 2008 you probably died trying to slide down the very first rail in sky rail(haha..over-exaggerating of course :P)but now you have the record, and insane one at that. Maybe we can't get 2:07 on the very first try, but I bet in a few hours we will..and then see 2:06 within reach.

Hopefully by the time I get the next set of videos up I'll have a 2:06 or at least 2:07, then I won't have to upload the embarrassing  2:08!

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Competition Central / Re: Green Hill zone - SA2B speedrun (24:94)
« on: November 05, 2009, 06:05:29 pm »
you've done well to get so close and you definitely have the potential required here. I wish you luck!

Of course, I am going to be tempted to try for 23 if you beat me. Unless you get something crazy yourself like a 23.60 (is that even possible? no idea) In that case, i'll just hand over my gold trophy and leave you alone, because 23.99 for me would be pushing insanity.

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And I remember exactly how hard we fought to get down to 2:07, so I'm actually quite surpised to see you saying 2:06 doesn't seem as hard anymore.

I just think that once we play it again, and all the movements stored in our memory fully come back, we will find that 2:07 is easy, and 2:06 will not be as crazy as we thought.

Sometimes it just works that way..you play something WAY too much and you just can't do better, but skill builds over time usually..so coming back much later, you'll be way better and nail it

Maybe not, but I have a feeling that will be the case, and is why I want to try for 2:06 sometime.

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I'll take it back even if it takes me another 4 years!! :P

hahaha..your determination is right up there with mine man! We all know it will not take 4 years though.

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Though I might get something good on cam today

take your time, we're all patient :) personally, the only time I am impatient when it comes to videos is when you have a INSANE time recorded and you tell me all about it..then my patience goes out the window and it's like.....UPLOAD THAT DAMN THING RIGHT NOW BEFORE I DIE!!! :P

And since you two insist, I will include 2:08.52 FR1 on my next batch of videos. But before I can have a batch of videos I need new records..so I have to play hard!


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his was a big hit in my face! This is the first time you don't had faith in my abilities D:
ah no man you misunderstood me, I should of been more clear with that statement. What I meant was if you can stand to play long enough to get 2:10, because I know you've been taking a break from the game. I basically meant if you feel like playing for long enough before you get tired of playing it :P Not doubting your ability one bit: you can clearly get any record, be it action shooting or hunting on ANY level if you want it badly enough. You're the SA2 MASTER!

and yes, we both promise we will have 2:06 taped if achived! Promise!

i'll reply to everything else later.. I gotta go do something and I can't reply to everything yet.

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it's just that I don't want to tell you it until I'm 100% sure that it works out.

gotcha. Totally understand!

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Para, don't say these things about reaching the 20's to me D:, I'm barely 1 year from there T_T

well, it all depends on the age of your mind state really. How old do you feel mentally? I'm 20, but I have the mind of someone who's only 10 years old :P so the 20 year thing won't hit me anytime soon. Worn out eyes and fingers may though. :( Can't stop physical age/damage!

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Also Para, I liked that pics of the FM's records, I haven't noticed the FR ranking, man... I really need to get a sub 2:10 there :/ I can't see you guys 6 seconds ahead and don't feel like this xD.

that would look REALLY cool to see you at sub 2:10 with us! If you can handle it, do it!

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Good luck there! This may be quite difficult even for you!

yeah, but imagine if he played it with us, and was able to play as much as us. He'd have the first and only 2:06, guaranteed.

And speaking of 2:06..once we start our M5 fun and get some records... I think I am going to be tempted to actually go for a 2:06, on tape..my 2:08 just looks so bad I can't see 2:06 being that hard. Will you be upset if I take your record? you wanted 2:07.32 to be yours eternally...

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Should that become possible soon, I'm gonna bring CE1 to sub1:30 <______<

if you get a time like that you're going to have to do some explaining on where you're from, because clearly no creature born on this planet is capable of anything below 1:34, and even that is pushing insanity.

yeah, that figures.. keeping something top secret so you're the first to sub 1:39 or even 8....

nah I am kidding it's okay, I hope it does end up working though because 1:37 is a big cut!


oh, it turns out I am not going on any trip today, not the long one as expected anyway. A short one soon though, maybe 2 hours.

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I got a big trip to do today, in about 2 hours and I wanted to make sure I am ready instead of sleeping until somebody wakes me up 5 minutes before we leave, I hate that :P

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I never get so lucky <_<


This picture says BS:




Also, look at the last one..I just noticed how cool it is..you me and Brian in a row..that's how it should be for all the sonic/shadow levels!! Not in that order every time though, of course.

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Yeah, no offense but 52 really isn't good <_<
I think that's the first negative thing you've ever said about me, or my records/videos :P First time for everything right?

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I've got a little bit more than 2 years to set some records
It's cool, by 2 years you probably won't be playing anymore anyway unless you get that level-name hack working..then you'll be playing til you get every record.

I like your ultimate goal for SA2B, nothing ridiculously hard where you have to kill yourself to get there, but not something super easy you do in 1 day either. A nice balanced challenge to be proud of upon completion. :) For white jungle, don't be discouraged if you can't do the loop skip after the 43 sec check. It's not really a skill thing, it just happens when you get lucky. It would be nice to pull it off in a checkfree run to get 1:29 or 1:28, but there's already enough to go wrong...never know though. Your 2:22 FC1 proves you can get that 1 in a million run sometimes! The rest of the shortcuts should be quite easy.

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close enough.. 5:02 right now!

actually I had a 52 video for SR5, but not only is the link dead and the video file lost forever, 52 sucks sucks sucks SUCKS SUCKS! :P

A sub 46 video would be great, let's hope you nail another crazy run whilst taping again though!! :D Don't worry if you miss that though.

Yup, you and Brian are the next generation for this game. Especially Brian, because he is good at all the levels. I am definitely the old generation for sonic/shadow, but fortunately, I am able to keep up with you young people... so far.. :P yeah I know I am only a few years older than you guys but that still counts! you start sucking when you hit 20 like me :(

Will you be playing some Final Jungle sometime in the future? I wanna see how much you can improve your 1:38. notice how I am trying to trick you by saying "final" jungle..hehehe...hoping it encourage you to play it sometime..no rush though!

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hey FR7! you surprised to see me up to early? I got some important things to do today, but I won't be leaving for about 3 hours of now.

I am glad everybody is enjoying all my long-overdue new videos! Even Brian learned a few tricks! That's the name of the game when it comes to videos, learn and enjoy!

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thanks sir brian man!


If you can do all the tricks on WJ check-free, you can easily beat me.. I probably lost a whole second from both checks added up.

In the green forest video, I definitely blew 1:22 at the end as you can see. :( mainly because of the check, but also cause I had a terrible jump to skip the loop, and the jump/bounces at the end were horrible compared to yours. But like I said who cares either way, once you get DC you'll get 1:20 or better depending on how many time savers you have that I do not know about!

anyway they're definite all up now, what a bunch of work that was!


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This officially brings our discussion back to TSC instead of that silly video site.

Go to bed, FR7! when you wake up you'll be able to see the once thought impossible:: Sub min on RH3!!!!!! It doesn't get any more exciting than that! As well as a couple others.

As for FR5, yeah it does get this topic back down to it's very roots of discussion! How cool is that!

I think you should play first, since I am already ahead of you. The only new strategy I can think of right now is the first 18 seconds.. there's gotta be a way to do it faster than my video. I remember one time when I went to jump the chaos blob, I landed right back on the rail! Or on the ground..it was one or the other. It was completely luck, but if we get something similar consistently we could probably do it as fast as M1 which is a second right there.

From there,..well....I don't know yet til I play the level. But I know there are lots of improvements for sub 2:10!

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WJ did have some shockingly crazy parts huh? Like the double roll skip in the beginning, that one is tough as can be but it looks cool and saves almost a second. I can see that putting you into a deep shock :P

FR5 was not great really, I missed that long rail at the end among other parts, where our strategy has improved. that's why you need to beat me! 2:12 is not much better.

I guess you can watch CE3 tomorrow as well as the highway, CE2 and also, I forgot about it in my post but I also have my new green forest M1 record as well! it really sucks as you'll see, (1:22 potential) but it's okay, once Brian gets a DC with his new tricks he'll get 1:20 or sub anyway.

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I got them all transferred! Now I can just upload them, 1 at a time.

I'll do WJ first since everybody wants to see that, then FR and the rest.

Within 20 minutes or so the first one may be up!

I decided not to do FR1 since it's nothing special that we haven't seen, and I didn't do the SS trick on metal harbor cause I didn't feel like looking for it. That's okay though, I'll make a big batch of bonuses next time!

white jungle M1 is up! it'll pop up on your video page any minute now..

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Is that why I have such trouble with it on M1 even with lots of speed? I didn't think timing really mattered, I just hit the button near the end. You got so close on M5 =( Keep going!! just keep this in mind: 38/41!!!! that's insane!

Anyway I also have an official confirmation: as soon as I post this message I will be making the videos, so perhaps in 1-3 hours they will be done and uploaded!!


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The amount of checks I have been using recently is astoundingly bad. :(

It's..not like me.... Not like me at all.... Who am I becoming? I am not even going to know who I am anymore if I don't stop..the checks...the checks! THE CHECKS!! Evil!! Stay away from me! I am slowing being possessed by the SA2B devil..checks...and even..the security hall 2 lives trick....How is this possible? How can someone.....go from.... 4-lives no checks on every run down to this...checks, multiple checks sometimes even!....and using more than the default 4 lives..... how..... could I be reduced to this..?....slowly, I am being possessed....and taken to...the....dark side of this game's competition techniques.....the one thing I always fought AGAINST....my determination..must be......slowly diminishing..for me to resort to.....such...cheap tricks to gain....time records......my determination......and skill......will never be......the same................


On a different note I hope you can sleep tonight, I may or may not have them up by the time you go. Oh and by the way talon wants to know if you did anything different on your 29 FC2 run compared to your 31 video.

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I used 2 checkpoints on WJ1 :( The 43, and 56. The 43 one cause I messed up somewhere, but I didn't lose time on it cause I managed to pull off an inconsistent loop skip to make up for the time loss. If only I could get the loop skip to work every time..the 56 one I used cause i messed up with the vine force and hit the stupid spring.

Of course, I now see 1:28 being possible.. but that's check-free insanity right there with a level where stuff never goes right. I am satisfied with sub 1:30 checks or not!

I still kinda like 1:30.89 checkfree better though, since we all know how I am :P I will probably upload them both into 1 video, showing my best time and best check-free time. Yes, I did get the 1:29.99 on tape! I was actually playing on M3 trying to get 1:36, but the run was so good I said screw the chao and went for the "back" ring. I am pretty sure this is allowed, cause the time stops the same way it would hitting the goal ring, and I did it on my old 1:54 Pyramid Cave "M1" run (see comment) and no admins said anything, so it must be okay. If I had played M3 like I was supposed to though, I know I would of had a high 1:35...

Yeah it sounds like you were lucky I didn't know I still had my FR runs :P I found them while looking through the tapes to see what I had. If you're curious, I found these:

City Escape M3: 1:06.80 (Restarted only once, at one checkpoint)

City Escape M2: 32.95 (No restarts!! yeah of course hehe)

Radical Highway M3: 59.97 (1 check used, restarted 16 or so times :/)

Final Rush M1: 2:08.52 (Had a few terrible looking spots :/)

Final Rush M5: 2:13.59 (didn't even watch this one yet.. I just saw it whilst fast forwarding)
 
White Jungle M1: 1:30.89 and 1:29.99 (Going to make a dual-run video for this as I said)

White Jungle M5: 1:41.20 (Yes I got this one on tape, forgot how many checks I used but quite a few I think.. I guess I should upload it anyway)

Metal Harbor M3 SS: 22.69 (Cool run to play and watch, can be improved!)

Sorry I didn't have a surprise for you when you woke up :( I didn't really have a chance to transfer the tapes cause like last time the dvd recorder was busy being used by somebody else..maybe tomorrow you'll have a nice surprise! Yeah here we go with the excuses again.. :(



I also got a new record: City Escape M1... 1:36.32

It sucks though, I am not submitting it. You know why!

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I think I am going to tape WJ5 too since it's a lot different than M1.

Also if you wanna know why I haven't uploaded the whole batch yet.. I have a question. Turns out I still had some old FR runs that did not get taped over!!

M1: 2:08.52 (you mentioned this one a while back)
M5: 2:13.59

Both of these are check-free..do you want to see them?

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that's cool, it will probably take me a while longer than that anyway cause I have to copy the runs from tape to dvd, and then convert that to wmv..takes quite a while.

Plus I think I will throw in some bonuses! like Metal harbor M3 22.69 speed shoe trick and maybe some other similar runs..i'll have an awesome video package up by tomorrow!

by the way I hope I don't cause you to lose sleep tonight, by being so excited about what you'll be seeing tomorrow.. I know excitement always keeps me awake at night.

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I don't know..but white jungle is fairly fun for the time being

I already got: 1:30.89, recorded, no checks!!

It would of been even better, but I didn't do the trick at the start of the level right, and since I was just going for a demonstration I didn't bother trying until it was right, since you probably already know how to do it. (It is very annoyingly inconsistent for me)

Woulda had 1:30.4 or better probably but oh well..this run is very nice! you'll easily see how sub 1:30 is possible.

how long are you going to be on? If you have a few hours I will be able to upload all of the times I have on tape so far, like CE 32.95, green forest 1:24, Radical highway 59(If I still have it, not sure) as well as a few others I think..

If you're gone soon, you'll have a nice wake up surprise!

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thanks FRM (Final Rail masta :P) Wow, FRM goes with Rush and Rail! Awesome!

I'll record something tonight just for you, I can't guarantee it will be a perfect record but it will highlight every strategy I use and definitely be at least 1:32. But maybe I'll nail an insane 1:29 whilst recording, just like you got 40.6 SR while recording..you know how that stuff works out sometimes :P

I could take the TSC record probably, but I don't like M2 very much plus it would not be official since talon's record is almost a second better. A TSC sweep is not an official sweep if someone out there has a better time! I like Brian's WJ1 comment...he had it for a lot longer than he expected I bet! almost a year!

expect a edit soon with news on the video.

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2 new stats.. I improved M2 (effortlessly) and stole M1! (15 mins) Brian has some catching up to do now!

I might try for a sweep..but talon's new record looks pretty good.

The tubes suck..it is all about jump height, angle, speed, timing..it's way too insane for me to master!

I haven't recorded anything because I am playing with high quality hookups(LOOKS AWESOME!) but unfortunately my vcr won't work with them :(

Maybe I should though to demonstrate the strategies I use.

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Playing final chase made me feel like such a useless player compared to you..you got 2:22 in a perfect run, I got 2:28 after restarting from the 40 second checkpoint 50 times because I can't do the tubes without getting stuck. I suck and you're perfect :(

White jungle made me feel a little better.. I played 5 minutes on M5, discovered how to skip the spring every time and 5 minutes later got 1:42. M3 took about 15 minutes, and I played M1 for over and hour and could not beat Brian. I did have a run on M1 that had 1:29 potential, but I failed the roll skip before the 58 sec check(which would of been 57 or even 56 on this crazy run!)

I want that M1 record!!!


Yes, my metal harbor DC run was 1:13.77 and I had like 2+secs worth of mistakes compared to my 1:13 GC...but it's just so hard I'll never be perfect :(

Talon said he might be able to borrow a DC sometime, if he does he will give it a try.

I don't know how you cannot beat even my sky rail 5 yet..maybe it's cause of the fact you did not do the mega jump. Did Jawzun do it on his crazy 45?

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Well I played.. look at the 2 new stats. Now we're up to.. 37/41!! (with talon's 2 records)

I also just got the M3 record! Tons of potential left...


You thought that was exciting though? Oh that's nothing compared to one other thing I have to say about WJ....


I FOUND A WAY TO SKIP THE ANNOYING SPRING ON WHITE JUNGLE 100% OF THE TIME

Can you believe it? About time is it not? Not even Brian has figured this out yet, so I must be quite special! Let's just say I was like oh HOLY **** when I realized it was working every single time, it obviously makes white jungle so much better to play. SO MUCH BETTER! EASIER! SO LESS ANNOYING!

It is really simple, but kinda hard to explain.. you just do Brian's insta-dash, and let go of every button except the B button, and as soon as you start swinging you tap the control stick up and the A button in a certain way, and you skip the spring every time. you'll have to play it to figure it out, but notice how when you swing if you tap up or the A button you swing with more force..you gotta tap them the proper amount of times and you always go high/far enough to skip the spring! Seems like if you press them too many times though you fail.

It is definitely awesome though, I have about 80% consistency with it. 4/5 runs will skip the spring! Once mastered, it could go to 100% for sure.

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Thanks for that, I think I remember the run now but I just forgot where it was since it's quite hidden. The run was a little disappointing after watching yours though :P

You looking at me? Yeah I get 5-10 min records every once in a while..not often enough to make up for the bs though!

Talon has been doing some insane plays recently.. he said he got 25.07 or something on Green hill after just a few minutes, as well as taking my RH2 record within a few more minutes with 36.65. We both see 35 as a slight possibility, provided somebody can make an insanity perfection run..something along the lines of sub 28 FC2 assuming PK seriously does see 27 being possible. He will probably be satisfied with 36.3 or so though once he masters the loop skip. He also got 1:42 on WJ3 but that's not so great. He did take WJ2 to sub 41 though! 40.84!


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Yeah of course, the old master Zealous! He had the SR1 record since 10-26-03 the very first DAY TSC existed! He had it for a looooooong time, all the way til 12-03-07, when I took it. He was tied for the longest-standing site record with green hill, until I took GH, then it was #1.

How dare you not notice him above you! You should be paying him your respects! :P

Where are you watching jawzun's sky rail video at?? The best run I can find out of his videos is 45.84....

My eyes can still see above average too, I don't think my sight itself was damaged it just got blurry for a while from being strained all the time.

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That's awesome to hear!
no, it sucks!! If I play, it's just a short matter of time until I am yelling at the character for constantly BSing me!




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Yeah, I know that you are above me, CE(and overall) Masta!!

No.., not me. I was talking about Zealous! The old FR Masta! I was just wondering if that brought back any memories being right below him, cause I remember when that was the case in FR when we started talking. You couldn't wait to beat him, (for the silver trophy) and then me!

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Impossible, impossibler, impossiblest? Most impossiblest?
heh..cool words :P the firefox built in spell check says they don't exist, but screw what it says! they're cool!

And damn... I figured sub 40 would be impossible for sure but you're saying it can be done with pixel perfection..I understand you not trying for it, and I never expected you to. 40.6 is awesome as is!


Yeah...PC all day and SA2B can mess your eyes up. Fortunately I got something more fun to do nowadays so it's not all pc/tv, and I notice my eyes have been feeling better..and focusing better! I had a hard time playing games in general cause everything seemed blurrier and I had a worse reaction time. That's what sucks about a PC job..you're stuck looking at the damn screen all day, or most of it. I don't think I could do it for that reason, personally.

Speaking of PC's, do you have the monitor's refresh rate set at 70hz or higher? I noticed when I changed mine from 60 to 70 it made a WORLD of difference. The flicker was gone, and it was waaaaaaaaay easier to look at!

Take a break if you need to. Heck me and Brian are, you may as well join in so we're all stopped together! I'm starting to feel a lot better after no SA2B for a few days..odds are i'll end up taking the plunge again :/

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