[eggFL]

you could set it so MWS saves logs of your games

good thing I was reminded of that. Now after I get to play my opponent (finally) I would be able to use the logs to accurately and dramatically retell the events of the game.

[eggFL]

ok I win against SDM 2-0

[Spinballwizard]

OK RPG and Mike essentially had me determine standings and the next matches, so here they are!

First of all, the results:

mike89 def. RPG (2-0)
SBW def. Stefan (2-1)
AJ def. Sondow (2-0)
eggFL def. SDM (2-0)

Here are the standings. Ties were settled here by alphabeticalization and matches randomly determined from here.

Code: [Select]

+-----+-------+-----+------+------+-------+
| POS |PLAYER | PTS | OMW% | PGW% | OGW % |
+-----+-------+-----+----------------------
|  1  |AJ     |  3  |  0   | 100  |  0    |
|  2  |eggFL  |  3  |  0   | 100  |  0    |
|  3  |mike89 |  3  |  0   | 100  |  0    |
|  4  |SBW    |  3  |  0   | 66.7 | 33.3  |
|  5  |Stefan |  0  | 100  | 33.3 | 66.7  |
|  6  |RPG    |  0  | 100  |  0   | 100   |
|  7  |SDM    |  0  | 100  |  0   | 100   |
|  8  |Sondow |  0  | 100  |  0   | 100   |
+-----+-------+-----+------+------+-------+

I've randomly determined my and Stefan's matchups (check #soniccenter logs, I did roll 2d3), so here they are:

Round 2 Matches:
AJ (RPG's bro) vs. mike89 (0-2)
eggFL vs. SBW (1-2)
Stefan vs. RPG (2-1)
SDM vs. Sondow (2-0)

Editting standings and matches into RPG's first post.

[Bilan]

AJ 0 - 2 mike89

[Spinballwizard]

Me vs. Egg:

Game 1
After a long time thinking, I manage to barely combo out and beat egg to the gold.

SBW 1
EGG 0

Game 2
Egg's game-beginning Leyline of the Void screws any plans I have. I run a graveyard deck. RFGing anything that goes there defeats that idea.

SBW 1
EGG 1

Game 3
My turn for sideboard Leyline. This game runs neck and neck for a long time. He attacks me down to 10, but I have dredge tricks and the ability to stop damage. Eventually I get enough into the yard and big enough guys out (him Putrefying his own Birds with Leyline in play didn't help - I know what he was trying to do but unfortunately Leyline prevents that from happening) that egg just concedes here. Good match though.

FINAL RESULT:
SBW 2
EGG 1

[Bilan]

2 - 1 to Stef

I hate slithers.

[Spinballwizard]

Does that mean that Stef won or you did?

Also you whore why'd you kill the standings from your post.

[Stefan]

I won. :D:D

Also it's slivers not slithers.

[SpinDashMaster]

GG Sondow. (Only 1 match played; I won, he had to go to bed.)

All his merfolk were power 2 or less; I mirror'd up to 6 and solar tide'd his whole conga of merfolk out of play.

Then combat for 48 ftw.

[Selphos]

SDM beat me in 17 turns. I had the worst shuffle ever and forgot to mulligan >_>

Logs of both matches:

[SpinDashMaster]

That makes two. Excellent matches, Sondow.

Also, I forgot to mention that I forgot to discard down to seven at the end of our first game, but that would not have affected the outcome.

SDM 2/Sondow 0.

[Spinballwizard]

Okey-doke, that round's in the books! Here are the results:

Round 2 Results
mike89 def. AJ (2-0)
SBW def. eggFL (2-1)
Stefan def. RPG (2-1)
SDM def. Sondow (2-0)

Standings After 2 Rounds

Code: [Select]

+-----+-------+-----+------+------+-------+-----+
| POS |PLAYER | PTS | OMW% | PGW% | OGW % |PREV |
+-----+-------+-----+---------------------------+
|  1  |SBW    |  6  |  50  | 66.7 | 54.5  |  4  |
|  2  |mike89 |  6  |  25  | 100  | 33.3  |  3  |
|  3  |eggFL  |  3  |  75  |  60  |  60   |  2  |
|  4  |AJ     |  3  |  75  |  50  |  50   |  1  |
|  5  |Stefan |  3  |  50  |  50  | 45.5  |  5  |
|  6  |SDM    |  3  |  25  |  50  | 33.3  |  7  |
|  7  |RPG    |  0  |  75  |  20  |  70   |  6  |
|  8  |Sondow |  0  |  50  |  0   |  50   |  8  |
+-----+-------+-----+------+------+-------+-----+

Round 3 Pairings
SBW vs. mike89 (1-2)
eggFL vs. Stefan (determined randomly) (2-1)
AJ vs. SDM (determined randomly) (2-0)
RPG vs. Sondow (0-2)

One last question: Do we want to stop after this round or cut to top 4 single elimination after this?

[yse]

Bring it on SBW >:O

Also I thought it'd be four rounds, but if three will give conclusive results I say that's the way to go.

[Selphos]

Me vs RPG? This'll be fun...

>_>.

Don't use that infinite hp restore deck or I will hunt you down and kill you.

[Bilan]

Unfortunatly I can't, I'm bound to using the Myr deck..

Also I thought we would've gone for 4 rounds before elimination too personally *shrug*

[Bilan]

AJ 2 - 0 SDM

[Spinballwizard]

4 rounds aren't possible in an 8-man tournament. There's a complex explanation that can go with it but the gist of it is that it becomes pointless after the third round.

[eggFL]

Me vs. Stefan :D

Game 1
Stefan plays Watcher Sliver, exploiting my deck's ultimate weakness: Creatures with toughness higher than 3. Outlandish, but elegant. His slivers only got bigger, especially in the rear, and I was outpowered and didn't have enough kill spells.

EGG 0
STEFAN 1

Game 2
Evaluating the situation, and realizing I had a very real chance of losing otherwise, I sideboard in preparation for game 2. Out goes my discard and useless Pithing needle, and in goes more beef and more kill. I use CRIME PUNISHMENT to take out two of Stefan's creatures this game, and none of mine. He stabilizes, but I equip Sword of Fire and Ice to my Birds of Paradise, turning it from a flying 0/1 to a flying, damage dealing, card drawing monster.

EGG 1
STEFAN 1

Game 3
The game starts off with Stefan casting Pacifism on my Dark Confidant, which could make it hard for me to get rid of it when it makes me lose too much life. Worse still, the game starts off slowly on both sides, I had two 0/1 Tarmogoyfs and he is sitting with only one 1/1 sliver. This changes as I sacrifice a land and he plays a life gain spell, and after I use my Putrefy on his only sliver... now there is an instant, sorcery, land, and creature in the graveyard, so my Tarmogoyfs are 4/5, and his board is empty. I swing for 8. He makes a valiant defense by casting a sliver with protection from green, and then followed by another sliver, and another Pacifism! Unfortunately for him, I had two Crime Punishment in hand, and played a Troll and a third Tarmogoyf. Good game!

FINAL RESULT:
EGG 2
STEFAN 1

[Stefan]

Had I drawn a ward or essence sliver in the second game, I would have won very easily.


Unfortunately, 4 essence and 4 ward were all in the last 17 cards of the deck.

[Spinballwizard]

Comments on that game. (I have them! :O)

1. Sword of Fire and Ice (and Light and Shadow to a much lesser extent) is the first in a line of broken equipment (a title later inherited by Umezawa's Jitte). You pack artifact kill for that (preferably Krosan Grip because they can't remove Jitte counters to kill your dudes or gain sick amounts of life in response).
2. Wards wouldn't have protected you from Crime/Punishment Stefan. X)
3. I REALLY hate Tarmogoyf. >:( For the exact reason that it gets insanely stupid very quickly. (And with the exception of my match with egg where I barely comboed out before the 'goyf finished me, that thing's had my number. I've bombed two Standard tournaments because of it -- one because I couldn't burn it out and one because my opponent got 3 in play by turn 5/6 in two straight games.)

Sounded like an epic match. :o

[eggFL]

btw SBW I meant to comment on our match, how surprised I was to see that you use Leyline against me... and how much it actually helped you!

Had I drawn a ward or essence sliver in the second game, I would have won very easily.


Unfortunately, 4 essence and 4 ward were all in the last 17 cards of the deck.

if only there is a way to pull Ward Sliver straight out of your deck... or even your sideboard..

When you rely on certain cards a lot (which in itself is not such a bad thing) it helps to use cards to find them.

Green is pretty much the color for fetching creatures. Living Wish and Eladamri's Call are the notable ones I can remember. There is also Commune With Nature which is great for nailing that 2nd turn Sinew Sliver more often.

and of course, a list of all green slivers in extended. Gemhide Sliver, Might Sliver, Spinneret Sliver.. solid stuff!

But perhaps most importantly.. no matter what deck you make next, when making multiple color decks, all you have to do is find the two-color lands for the colors you're using. In the case of green/white, these would be Brushland and Temple Garden. Just remember that in extended, there are basically just two 2-color lands for each color combination. There's always the one in 10th edition. (Brushland) and the other is in Ravnica, Guildpact, or Dissension. (Temple Garden)

[Bilan]

For Green/White theres also Selesneya Sanctuary

[Spinballwizard]

if only there is a way to pull Ward Sliver straight out of your deck...

Homing Sliver. >_>

[eggFL]

For Green/White theres also Selesneya Sanctuary

and Horizon Canopy, and Elfhame Palace, and Tranquil Garden..

Although it's worth noting about the Selesnya Sanctuary cycle... (called the "Karoos" by some players) .. that they are not quite good for fixing colors, because you can't play them until turn 2 and you can't use them until turn 3. They primary purpose of these lands is to increase your overall mana count later on. (if you played 4 lands, you have only 4 mana.. but if one of them is a Selesnya Sanctuary, then you have 5 mana)

Also, like most land cycles, Karoos are only available for "friendly" color pairs. (such as green/white, white/blue, blue/black, etc)

The 10th edition "pain-lands" and Ravnica duals are available in all 10 color pairs. (including enemy color pairs such as black/white, blue/green, etc) These are also the best ones for general purpose, since they are some of the only color-fixing lands that you can actually use the turn you play them -and- every single turn after that, and without slowing you down.

if only there is a way to pull Ward Sliver straight out of your deck...

Homing Sliver. >_>

Yea, that's pretty sweet. Lots of options.

Also, when running these kind of fetch cards, it opens a WHOLE NEW PARADIGM in deck building.

You can now run only 1 or 2 of a certain cards instead of 4, so you have that card available only when you need it. This is perfect for cards that are only good for specific situations, or just those that cost a lot of mana, which you might want later on, but don't want to be swamped with copies of in the beginning of the game.

[Spinballwizard]

There's a bounceland (that's what we call them locally -- the Selesnya Sanctuary etc) for each color pair >_>

[eggFL]

huh, oh yea... bounceland is a way better name for them. XD silly me

Also, the fetchlands: Bloodstained Mire, Windswept Heath, Polluted Delta, etc. Those are pretty badass, how can I forget those!

[Selphos]

Right then, RPG and I had our match. I won the first, second disconnected but RPG admits I'd have beaten him anyway

[14:20:20] <Sondow> RPG, player lost
[14:20:25] <Fixed> wat
[14:20:26] <Fixed> oh well
[14:20:30] <Fixed> you wouldve won

Log attached below

[Spinballwizard]

And mike and I finally had ours. How'd it go?

Game 1
He gets out Scion early which takes out one of my Bridge from Belows. I manage to dredge a couple more in before barely comboing him out. Whew.

SBW 1
mike 0

Game 2
I side in my graveyard and search hate because of his crap. I get it too late, though, and Cabal Archon (HATE) beats me.

SBW 1
mike 1

Game 3
I mull to 4. I have 2 Leyline of the Void in hand, but no lands. I rip Islands to start, but draw no more lands and he gets the Scion again. And beats me down.

SBW 1
mike 2

And mike is the winner!

---

The results:

mike89 def. SBW (2-1)
eggFL def. Stefan (2-1)
AJ def. SDM (2-0)
Sondow def. RPG (2-1)

And the standings!

Code: [Select]

+-----+-------+-----+------+------+-------+-----+
| POS |PLAYER | PTS | OMW% | PGW% | OGW % |PREV |
+-----+-------+-----+---------------------------+
|  1  |mike89 |  9  | 44.4 | 85.7 | 47.6  |  2  |
|  2  |SBW    |  6  | 66.7 | 55.6 |  70   |  1  |
|  3  |AJ     |  6  | 55.6 | 66.7 | 52.6  |  4  |
|  4  |eggFL  |  6  | 44.4 | 62.5 | 45.5  |  3  |
|  5  |SDM    |  3  | 55.6 | 33.3 | 52.6  |  6  |
|  6  |Stefan |  3  | 44.4 | 42.9 | 47.8  |  5  |
|  7  |Sondow |  3  | 33.3 | 33.3 |  50   |  8  |
|  8  |RPG    |  0  | 55.6 | 14.3 |  55   |  7  |
+-----+-------+-----+------+------+-------+-----+
Now here's why we can't have a round 4: Nobody would be playing someone close. For instance:

Mike's closest opponent that he hasn't faced is egg. I can then play AJ, no problem. SDM can play Stefan, but RPG's already played Sondow. PARADOX! The only other scenario pits mike 2 spots down (or RPG 2 spots up)!

So we can either cut to top 4 (which would end up as mike vs. egg and me vs. AJ, winners facing each other) or just end here.

[eggFL]

I worry that the fad dies the moment this tournament ends. So let's cut to top 4.

Plus I get another chance to beat you.

[yse]

I'd be all for it for no other reason than I'm actually interested in playing against you.

However should I lose, I hope that you will remember me as the true winner. X)