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Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
« Reply #660 on: October 24, 2008, 09:37:00 am »
Well then the crowd shall get more.

 3. Top Ten One Trick Ponies
Being the best is tough, especially here at TSC.  It takes dedication, planning and practice, all of which are that much easier if it's your favourite game.  It also takes a healthy dose of skill, which is rare enough just for one game. Put these two together in one package, and you've got something special.  In this Top Ten, we celebrate those players who, while they may be none too shabby in many games, demonstrate an absurd level of excellence in their own specialty.

10. greycatmon
greycatmon the Riders player comes to us from the hive of scum and villany that is CyberScore.  His/her/its competing there dates back to November 07, which explains why he was able to attain near-instant domination in the Riders charts upon arriving on June 5th (it took only 4 days, in fact), and it was in that same month that he/she/it left us once more, never to be heard from again.  Also his Dark Desert 3-Lap Time Attack comment - I used Amy! disturbs me greatly.  Also also the fact he's registered as a Windows 98 user disturbs me greatly.  Also also also he/she/it needs to post here immediately and make my life easier damnit!

9. Paraxade
Paraxade has been with us since November 2007, is the champion of . . . Sonic 06.  Oh dear.  On the plus side, he's stemmed the DsS onslaught, which can only be a good thing (sorry DsS!).  Honestly I don't know so much about 06 (my copy is still loading <_<), but what we can say about Paraxade is that he has an outstanding level of knowledge about the game, as evidenced by his thoroughness all the stats, his level of detailed explanation of why certain . . . people couldn't have got the stats they claimed, and his involvement with the rules committee.
In topping DsS, Paraxade has demonstrated that he's got the skills - hopefully it's only a matter of time before they're applied more widely and I can unceremoniously kick him out of this list.

8. blazest
blazest might seem like a relative newcomer, having a registration date of October 07, is actually formerly known as blaze_japanese and is, as the former nick suggests, a Japanese player.  Typically, Japanese players have had their own TA and other gaming communities separate from the western worlds, although periodically there is cross-'boundary' movement (and last I checked, TSC holds up pretty well against gamers elsewhere - go team!).  I believe it was SM who first brought blazest here to compete in April 06, although he'd been playing long before then.  In his previous incarnation, he didn't submit; as blazest, however, he's laid waste to the SA2(B) charts, and now holds 2nd (yoshifan be warned!).
It's worth noting that blazest is the only non-champion in this chart; partly of course down to his competing in the Crown Jewel but also because of the large impact he's had in a short space of time; further, given he's going to be aware of all our strats now, there's the potential for an assault on the title itself, which would be great to see.
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Finally, there has to be a shout-out to Psyknux, who was booted out of this chart at literally the last minute due to blazest's antics.  It's a testament to the strength in depth that TSC currently enjoys that this chart was so, so hard to make choices for and excludes great players like Psyknux and others who I'll come to later.

7. Zeupar
Hola Zeupar! ¿Cómo estás? Zeupar is our token Spanish type - hailing as he does from Madrid - and therefore knows how to use (and abuse) more types of punctuation than we have letters in the alphabet >_>.  He's been with us almost 2 years now, and his focus has been wresting the Sonic Advance championship from the grips of Nintendan.  Interestingly he's only 4th in Times (and hasn't submitted any special stage stats) - it's Rings and Scores where Zeupar earns his keep and in fact the championship.
Zeupar has shown signs of diversification, though - into the totally different world of . . . Advance 2 >_>  He has some pretty good times and (particularly) boss stats, so if he ever turned his attention to rings and scores there he could mount a half-decent challenge.  Fortunately he's far too busy exploring every nook and cranny of the site so's to annoy Gerbil with more bugs, and forum stalking people (seriously, he's been following me when I've been researching this stuff, he probably knew everything we were including before we started!).

6. SpinDashMaster
SDM came to us via SCD, and is the brains behind the Emerald Challenges amongst other things - but hey, this is about competition, and though SDM undoubtedly has plenty skills in the GeneDrive games (check the giz topic and of course the emerald challenges as examples of his knowledge and skill) he hasn't showed them in the charts thus far - the one he has shown his ability in is Rush.
SkyLights had held his position atop the Rush charts for many moons - it was his game.  SDM started his assault on the Rush charts not long after he joined, and had a strong start, reaching 2nd pretty quickly.  However he was forced to play second fiddle to SkyLights for many months, until in March this year he overturned the incumbent legend, and since then he's reigned atop the chart.
SDM has the love and knowledge of the Sonic series, and in Rush we can see he has the skill and dedication too - if he keeps it up, I forsee more championships in his future.

5. Quartz
Quartz and I (Douglas) go back a long way.  After championships were changed to include RA/SA stats, I held a commanding lead in the adv2 championship, having been the only person to bother with rings and scores way back when.  NintenDan and RPG were both inactive and it looked like there was nobody to take the fight to me.  Nobody, that is, until Quartz came on the scene.  Arriving in March 2006, it wasn't long after that he was challenging for the title, and of course he eventually wrested it from my grasp, reminding me a lot of RPG in his bringing a consistently high standard across all the different stats.  What followed was an intense period of back-and-forth competition between us in a serious throwback to the NintenDan vs RPG days; often, our title reigns were being measured in hours.  Even now with his being inactive and not indulging in score spamming (the latter probably costing him over 200 points), he holds a strong 4th place.
While I can attest to Quartz's abilities in adv2, I think we can all appreciate just how good he is at adv3.  If you don't - zero point Times leadership.  Deposing mike89 from any championship is a noteworthy achievement; doing so with this kind of pwnage is something special.  Sadly he didn't achieve it back when rings and scores didn't count for championships, and so hasn't held the Holy Grail of a 0p championship, but I for one wouldn't bet against him still being able to achieve that.  He's that good.
Quartz has some decent stats in other games (3rd in Riders is a good showing), but we all know where he truly excels.  Quartz's one trick may be all three of the Advance series, but hey - we make the charts, we can damn well choose whoever we like.

4. OmegaDJ
OmegaDJ has been with us since August 2007, and it was a short time indeed until he showed his credentials in Shadow - in 2 months he broke into the top ten, then a month later he was top 5, ending the year in 3rd with nearly all red time stats as well as the odd record - and this is up against some of our best 3D players like yoshifan and ShadowJacky.  His assault on the title continued unabated, and it was January 26th that marked his ascent to the very top.  Since then he's gone on to utterly dominate the competition, with a 0-point Rings leadership, and a smorgasbord of red spattered with a good chunk of records too, and one yellow stat - come on dude, sort that Egg Breaker Neutral.  Seriously.
OmegaDJ has made a start at Heroes and SA:DX as well, but it's in the gun-toting emohog's title game that he brings the win.

3. K-Dero
K-Dero is an extremely unhelpful player to write about, given that he/she/it has never posted on the forums <_<  What we can say is that after joining in April 2007, he/she/it has whittled his/her/its Sonic 3 stats down, until by the end of the year he was a serious contender (and had in the process taken my only times record off me, the git).  It took him until June to finally take the championship; however given that it was mike89 that he/she/it was deposing, we can forgive the timeliness and merely recognise the achievement.
Seriously though, you and greycatmon need to get with the boards.  It's where all the cool kids hang out (and RPG too, but it's OK, he's harmless really).

2. stanski
Stanski was brought to TSC from SDA by our very own mike89 to hone his skills for a Sonic 2 run - little did he know the wrath he was unleashing upon the S2 charts!  It took him but a few months to completely annihilate all competition, taking the championship and phenomenally whittling his points to zero.  Oh, and he got a 20:02 speedun for SDA to boot.  These days he has that down to 18:45, a quite staggering total, and though he doesn't hold complete domination over the chart his 350+ point lead lets everyone know who the daddy is.
Stanski is clearly an epically good gamer; he has SDA speedruns for Dark Castle and Toy Story and decent stats for S1 and S2GG, but at TSC it's Sonic 2 where he is untouchable.  I shudder to think what will happen if he turns his attention to other 2D games - we just won't stand a chance, guys.

1. Jawzun
Jawzun first graced the scene in October 2006, and was always an SA:DX player, but we didn't really appreciate just how good a one he is.  He was the discoverer of a technique he calls the "Fake Homming Attack" - we never did work out how one does a homm, but no matter, because applying it and his prodigious talent brought him TA record after TA record, with the eventual result being the championship as well as the kudos for wiping out Cybrax's last untied record (City Escape 3).
Perhaps the most amazing thing about Jawzun, though, are the forum topics about him.  Anyone else coming in and dominating such a popular chart would spend their life dodging noobs' accusations of cheating; Jawzun has 3 topics encouraging him to go for various achievements in the game.  Jawzun is proof that anyone can come into an established and competitive game, break new ground and dominate the competition while remaining well liked by all.
Bastard.



Again, I just want to emphasise how tough this chart was to put together for the deluge of excellent players; there are a ton of excellent players who didn't make it through being great but not champion (Psyknux and F-man spring to mind) or for the 'crime' of being good at other games (people like RingRush and . . . err . . . me >_>).  Maybe we should have a Top Ten People Who Weren't In This One Or #2!
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Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
« Reply #661 on: October 24, 2008, 09:38:56 am »
I am honored to say that I was never a part of the top fad.

I'll get back to you on the others. >_>
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Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
« Reply #662 on: October 24, 2008, 12:16:23 pm »
The crowd screams for more!
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Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
« Reply #663 on: October 24, 2008, 01:04:49 pm »
ah damn, maybe if I didn't start playing all of those other games just for quick points :(
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Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
« Reply #664 on: October 24, 2008, 03:10:05 pm »
2. Top Ten Jacks Of All Trades
In the last Top Ten, we described how hard it is to achieve greatness in one game. It is therefore astonishing that we have players who bring the pwnage across the many games and varied disciplines we compete in here at TSC.  We're looking for strong performances in the original 2D games, in 16-bit land, in 3D, in the new-style 2D games and in what we shall generously call "misc" which is basically everything else.  Though they might not be the absolute best at every game they play, the sheer breadth of their awesome deserves the recognition they get here.
Note: it is not a requirement of this chart to be called Jack, but it can't hurt your chances :)

10. nobody?
Whu?  What the hell is going on here?  No #10?
Well, yes.  As explained in the last chart, it's hard enough being great at one game at TSC, never mind across sufficient categories to be considered for this one.  High rankers we might have for this one are players like Shadow Jacky, who may be supreme in the 3D stakes but his 10th in S1 is purely about rings (3D Blast doesn't count for GeneDrive in my warped little world) and he has no presence in new-skool 2D; maggot, if he played more than 4 games and any of them were at all recent; sonicam, who again rocks in 3D but has no GeneDrive or GBA/DS pwnage to speak of; me if only I could play 3D AT ALL; Judgement (who totally would have got this if he'd placed any higher in SA:DX, by the way) - the list goes on and on, but nobody's really brought the win in three out of the four main categories (and I'm not weighting misc highly enough to make up for that - sorry SJ!).
Okay, so this comes across as a bit of a cop-out - which it is, I guess - but also a message to all of us.  That sage oracle of Pure Pwnage, teh_Masterer, tells us "to truly pwn, one must pwn in all games".  This is a call to arms for all of us - let's take the fight to these 9 noobs!

9. bertin
Okay, hands up who saw this one coming?  I know I've associated bertin with . . . well, the past stupidness we don't need to go over, and recently the comedy being-a-bear shenanigans, but blow me if he isn't a damn good player too.  bertin's been with us just over 2 years, joining in October 2006, and unlike a lot of players on these two charts, he didn't exactly set the rankings alight as soon as he got here - in fact, it wasn't until nearly a year later that he really made any impact at all.  The first game he was to make an impression on was to be Sonic R, jumping straight into 3rd spot; this was quickly followed up by decent showings in Sonic CD and STT as well as a bunch of other submissions across many charts.  Fast forward to the new year and he's up to 2nd spot in STT (he may have been champ at some point but Time Machine's playing up for me; doubtless bertin or SkyLights can enlighten us all with the knowledge).  He also briefly held the Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity title by dint of being the only competitor >_>.  Moving into the summer, we start to see where bertin earned his spot here; the STT title was definitely clinched then and held for a respectable time (he now holds 2nd once more), and he had earned a spot in the Heroes top ten with some pretty impressive stats; also of note moving towards now are his continued strength in CD, earning him a few marks in the GeneDrive portion of this selection, 10th in SA:DX to accompany Heroes in the 3D bracket, and very strong places in S2GG and Chaos to go with STT.
What bertin doesn't have, though, is any real presence in new-skool 2D; however the rest of his profile shows he's got plenty talent across a variety of games.  Congratulations dude - oh, and since you're no longer TSC's Most Underestimated Member, you need a new forum subtitle.  My vote goes to "The Little Bear That Could".

8. Thorn
Thorn - originally gamersince93, until RPG and Aitamen convinced him that was too much of a mouthful - joined us in November 2005 (yeah, I thought he'd been around forever too!).  Besides various hacking exploits and working at TUSC, he's found the time to be a pretty awesome competitor.
It took Thorn just a couple of weeks to grab top spot in the game he's most well known in, Knuckles Chaotix.  He followed that up with a foray into the top 5 of Sonic CD, Sonic Jam, and STT, setting what would become a recurring theme in Thorn's time here - strong performances across a number of games at a time.
It would take far too long to list all the games that Thorn was competing in over the next few months (all the while continuing to head the Chaotix charts, and not just because nobody cares ok).  By the time his 1-year anniversary rolled around, he was competitive in 26 games and top ten in 20 of them, although to the best of my knowledge he hadn't taken any further championships.  One was to follow in March of 2007 though, as Thorn claimed the 3D Blast crown (and his vids are worth checking out).  There was more back-and-forth over that one that Thorn was used to (read: any at all), but he was the top dog throughout 2007.  At the start of 2008, Thorn then claimed another title, although somewhat less impressively this time as there were only 2 other Rivals 2 players at the time >_>.  This was probably when Thorn was at his peak at TSC; soon thereafter he lost both Rivals 2 and 3D Blast; he did hold Jam for a bit though, bringing his championship count up to 4 (edit: 5, apparently he had SPA at one point).
Thorn falls down due to a lack of 8-bit skills and an average showing in the 3D games, but just looking at the sheer number of games he's got orange ranks in - particularly in the games we're unfairly lumping together in "misc" - and you'll understand why he deserves his place.  I hope he won't mind me saying he's not been seen as the kind of epic champion we're accustomed to singing the praises of here, but he very much embodies the spirit of all-around pwnage of this chart.

7. sonichero
sonichero has been around since forever (also known as February 2004), although has been pretty much inactive of late.  As of this writing he holds no championships; however, he's got strong performances in many charts, so let's take a look at what qualifies him for 7th spot.  First off, on the GeneDrive-era 2Ders: he holds a very respectable 4th place in Sonic 3, but it's Sonic CD where he shines - although he's never really challenged maggot's iron grip on the championship he's pretty well represented across all categories and currently holds 2nd.  Likewise with Knuckles Chaotix, I don't think he's ever taken Thorn's title, but another 2nd place is still decent even if it's a game nobody cares about >_>.  Moving on to the 8-bit games, we see top ten places in all of them, although again no championships and nothing that really jumps out as spectacular - just consistently good performance across the field.  Again, in the Advances we see top ten places for all, with 3rd in Advance 1 being the highlight here.  In the 'misc' categories we also see good performances; back in the early days of TSC, sonichero was champion of both Battle and Sonic R, still holding 5th in the former.
It's really the 3D titles in which sonichero falls down; although once upon a time he was a highly ranked SA:DX player those days are sadly long since passed; 12th isn't bad, but it isn't really enough to pimp you as a 3D player; further, the lack of championship reigns does have to be taken into account.  Still, sonichero clearly demonstrates a ton of skill across the board (and it's worth remembering that many of his stats date back many years and still hold up well today).  sonichero holds 6th spot on the sitewide rankings, and 7th on our list of awesome.  Congrats dude :)

6. DarkspinesSonic
March 17th, 2007.  A day that will live in the memories of TSCers for a long time, for it was then that DsS (then known as Da1AndOnlySonic) joined the site.  He immediately made a mark, needing only 3 days to take his first championship in Sonic 06.  He did realise that Sonic 06 is crap and nobody cares, though, and moved in on the Sonic Battle championship, first taking it on April 27th.  They he realised that nobody cares about Battle, and seized both the Riders championship (14th May) and Fighters (23rd May).  That's 4 championships in just over 3 months.
Fortunately for the rest of us, DsS's rate of progress then slowed - it took him until late on in the year to realise that he still wasn't champion in anything anyone cared about!  The next to fall were Drift (12th December) and Drift 2 (20th December), and then just to make this unfunny joke stretch even further he took 3D Blast (30th January).  At this time, there was a concerted effort to fight back - Thorn issued a rallying call to all TSCers when DsS passed RPG for fourth in the Sitewides back in December (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=2852.0) and the site experienced huge activity, but it was no use - DsS continued his domination of irrelevant charts.
It was clear, however, that he was finally turning his attention to bigger things, however; he had a bunch of impressive Heroes stats and was rapidly closing in on the upper echelons of the SA:DX charts.  It was in the latter that he finally cemented his place as a true TSC great on February 19th, placing himself above Jawzun, F-Man, yoshifan and other such luminaries in one of TSC's most prized championships (and holding his personal best of 7 simultaneous titles).
Almost exactly a year after he joined, on March 30th 2008, DsS achieved what had once been thought impossible but with his rise had become almost inevitable - he surpassed mike89 in the sitewide rankings, claiming his place as TSC's #1 (and fortunately Rolken didn't follow through on his threat to take down TSC if it happened).  At the time, he was only champion of the Drifts, Riders and Fighters, but as we've seen he'd shown he was massively competitive across a large number of games.  These days, he has Heroes and Chaos (zero pointed!) in his grubby little paws too, and a commanding lead in the sitewides.
The thing that stops DsS being further up is that despite the fact he's held a whopping 10 different championships, he's not got the GeneDrive (3D Blast doesn't count ok) or Advance/Rush brackets covered - yet.  However, with a current tally of 5 championships held and an overall sitewide rank of #1, it wouldn't really be possible to have this list without him.  Also, now I've said all this, ten quid says by next time round he's got championships in both >_>

5. eredani
eredani joined us in November 2005, and is an arse because he took away my rightful #1 spot in the Periodic Top Ten chart the next year.  Also he played some games and stuff.
eredani quickly gained a reputation as a destroyer of records with a huge breadth of skill.  Historically, he's been fantastic at three games in particular: Sonic Heroes, where he battled over the championship with Shadow Jacky; S&K in which he locked horns with mike89; and Chaos, which he originally pinched from mike but later came under attack from many people seeking a cheap championship.  The remarkable thing about this, though, isn't the three championships and defences thereof, it's that they were all happening at the same time - few players can hold off assaults from players of that caliber in a single game, never mind three completely different styles of competition.
These days he's also strong in S1/2/3 (particularly 3), Shadow and STT, but it's the fending off some of our best in three games at once that firmly cements his place on this list.  Had he a presence in the new-skool 2D titles and maybe a bit more of a showing in the 3D titles, he's be a serious contender for #1 on this list.  I should also take this opportunity to remind him that he claimed he would be #1 sitewide by the end of 2008 - quite where that's going to come from, we don't know, but hey - if anyone can peg DsS back a bit, it's eredani.

4. SkyLights
Wait what?  SkyLights in this category?  Surely all he does is Rush and Rush Adventure?
Well no, actually.  It was Rush that drew him in to the site when he joined in December 2005, and by his own admission his various tussles therein (against Ben, Crowbar and latterly his loss of the title to SDM) have shaped him into the gamer he is today.  However, while he's long been acknowledged as the best DS gamer TSC has to offer (sorry SDM!), he's also excellent across the other categories for this section.  He's shown 8-bit talent by taking the STT championship; he snatched the S&K championship from mike89 and has a decent showing in S1, so he has the GeneDrive base covered; and he's also been champ of SSR.  In fact, he held all 5 of the championships he's had at once, making him the most prolific champion at the time.
SkyLights' weakness in this Top Ten is 3D - despite 11th in SA:DX and 3rd in SSR (with a former championship), he's never shown himself to be truly amongst the greatest to grace this category.  However, that doesn't take anything away from his other achievements, his 7th place in the sitewide ranksings, and a thoroughly deserved place on this list.

3. yoshifan
Yoshifan has respectable stats in Sonic 1, Shadow and Advance 3 as well has his infamous SA2(B) dominance, and in the last Top Tens mike described him as the definitive all-rounder, so it's only fair he end up in here.  When he started at TSC way back in 2003, Yoshifan was known as a 2D specialist, and in the early days he and SM held a monopoly on 2D vids, and in fact many of his GeneDrive stats hold up well even today (he'd be much more competitive if he filled out the brackets, particularly the points whore ones we've already discussed).  He's also not bad at Advance 3, holding 8th spot.  However, it was after a brief hiatus that he returned at the tail end of 2005 to take on what was to become his calling: the 3D titles.  Initially smashing records right and left in Heroes, he went on to take the Shadow championship in short order, before turning his eye on SA2(B).  Despite it being our most competitive game, Yoshifan has at the time of writing amassed an almost-500 point lead - a deficit so brutal it's quite possible it won't ever be overturned.  To hold that level of dominance over the most prized championship is nothing short of sensational.
Yoshifan could easily have been top of the One Trick Pones chart for the utter domination of TSC's Crown Jewel, but he clearly shows his abilities across a range of games.  Fear him.  Or play something other than SA2(B).  Either works.

2. RPGnutter
RPG has been around since before forever, being one of the original GameFAQs competitors prior to TSC's inception.  He was the creator of the SA2(B) Boss Times topic, where his epic site-spanning rivalry with Mike first began, and was brought to the site shortly after it started by SS101 (hear that guys - he's to blame!).  It took him a while to get going, but in early 2004 he was establishing himself as a serious contender in SA2(B) and Adv2.  It was around this time that the myth of TSC's Unluckiest Member began, for he held a bunch of championships but none for more than 2 days - this was at least in part due to him being an early submitter in new charts, and otherwise because he sucks and is lazy amirite *bricked*
During the downtime, RPG's rivalries with Mike and SS101 kept competition going, and it was these guys that attacked the charts hardest when TSC returned.  RPG and SS101 both went at it tooth-and-nail in SA2(B) (followed shortly thereafter by the pwnage streak of Rayku), leaving Mike in the dust (which is an achievement by itself).  With Cybrax no longer active, Rayku topped the boards from SS101 then RPG - a period of fierce competition ensued, but it took the introduction of scores and rings to championship rankings to give him the title for the first time.  What followed was an intense period of championship swapping action between the two of them, with RPG eventually eking out enough of a lead to hold the championship for a decent time.
Then there's Advance 2.  Unlike with Adventure 2, RPG actually became champion in short order, deposing Zealous with a strong showing in both Times and Bosses.  He wasn't allowed to rest on his laurels, though, as NintenDan was hot on his heels, first in Times then later in Bosses.  Taco's taking the championship sparked a 6-month continual fight over the title described best in a previous Top Ten; suffice to say I (Douglas) turned up and thought I'd put him out of action, especially with rings/scores being added.  How wrong I was - SpinballWizard discovered a technique that allowed for huge scores to be obtained through button mashing, but it was RPG who successfully put it into practice, surpassing myself and Judgement to become champion once more.  Judgy's awesome and my succumbing to score scalping has left him behind in 3rd these days, but he's been a huge trailblazer in this game, especially with Bosses (what is it with you and bosses btw?).
If I'm honest, I don't really know the details of his other escapades, but in his time here, RPG has racked up 8 championships, and is currently strong in Sonic 1, SA2(B), S1GG, SPA and Adv2, which covers all the bases set out for this category - a truly impressive feat (although it might be more so if his only current title was something other than SPA, I mean srsly).  RPG is the All-Rounder, but the greatest is . . .

1. mike89
Until DsS replaced him at the head of the sitewides, mike had long been held up as the very best TSC has to offer.  Joining up way back in 2004, mike started out competing in Advance and Adventure 2 before spreading out to Sonic 1 through S&K, in which he left a trail of broken and bloodied competitors in his wake, holding S2, S3 and S&K for considerable lengths of time (indeed, he held S3 for around 3 years).  When he turned his attention to the Game Gear games, he butchered them all, holding all championships except STT, and when he turned to Adv3 he displaced the legend of the Advance series that is NintenDan.
Following the Great Downtime, Mike spammed all the charts to take cheap championships was a stalwart of the site, spurring competitions across many games.  At one point he held 10 championships at once, although he prefers to count it as 7 as that was the state 'when the dust had settled' - either way, it's a terrific achievement.  Another consequence of the downtime was that Mike was close enough for a tilt at the Adventure 2 title - at least until RPG and SS101 got off their backsides a couple of days later and put him in his place.  Still, few have ever been so close to the Crown Jewel.
Upon the introduction of sitewide rankings, it was pretty obvious they would show Mike as TSC's greatest (and not only because he had a hand in their creation, either!)  These days he has to settle for second, and even more shockingly for old hands like me he doesn't hold a single championship at the time of writing.  That said, a quick look at mike's profile shows how good he still is across so many different disciplines.  Top 5 in S1 through S&K cement his old-school 2D credentials (arguably where he excels most); 3rd in Heroes and a top ten place in TSC's most competitive game Adventure 2 show he can bring it in 3D; top 5 in all 8-bit games and 2nd in SPA show he's at home on the underpowered machinery; 2nd in adv3 and 4th in Rush show he's more than competent at the new-skool 2D too.  Let's bear in mind that he's been quiet on the competition front for a while and his stats still hold up amongst the best - if he ever gets it into his head to take up serious TSC competing again, everyone's in trouble.  Outside the charts he's done epic SDA runs as well as the now infamous Sonic Olympics S2 marathon run.  There is nobody who performs to such a high standard across so many different types of game as Mike.
In the last Top Ten, mike didn't rate himself at #1, but we're not him so we don't have to be modest (yeah yeah, different criteria, bloody pedants).  Anyway, congratulations Mike!
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« Reply #667 on: October 24, 2008, 05:55:24 pm »
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« Reply #668 on: October 24, 2008, 06:06:13 pm »
Yes, yes. My first appearance in a TSC top 10 since I've been here (come close before under honorable mention, but have never actually hit the charts). Those were some good times. Only 4 of them involved casualties (they respawned harmlessly anyway), the rest were more dark comedy shenanagins. I would love to play another game of that (have a bunch of horrible new non-lethal ideas), but old fads have to stay dead. IIRC, that thread was one of the largest non sticky threads in TSC history at the time.
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« Reply #669 on: October 24, 2008, 06:25:42 pm »
1. Top Ten Historic Moments
So here it is, the #1 Top Ten. As it's the 5th anniversary of the site, it's only right that we end this epic journey with a look back at the events that have forged the history of the site.

10.The Changing Of The Guard
On March 30th 2008, mike89 was finally knocked off the top spot of the Sitewide Rankings.  As we know, Mike has been around and been rated as pretty much our best player since forever, whereas DsS was just over a year old as a TSCer (interestingly he joined within 7 days of the Sitewides actually going live - GS, fiddle the numbers so it looks prophetic kplz) and as such wouldn't have been around for most of the rest of the entries in this list.  This isn't an excuse to be an old fart complaining about how things were better in the old days, though; we have our Jebus figures who inspire us to excel, and our successors who knock us off our lofty perches, and that's as it should be.
Times change, and TSC only goes from strength to strength.  Long may the pwnage continue.

9. TSC3
On June 11th 2004, TSC3 was launched.  It featured themes (Stardust Present still pwns you ok, Chaos Angel is for noobs), support for historical ranks (aka the time machine), proper URLs of the format we know today (eg http://www.soniccenter.org/members/douglas/sonic_advance_2) and most importantly database changes that really paved the way for what TSC was to become in the future.  Spectacular it may not have been, but TSC3 really marked TSC's transition from a forum-topic-replacement to a genuine hub of competitive play.

8. TSC4
Amongst our community, we've had a tradition of alternative gaming challenges since before the site even began - fastest deaths, levels completed without getting any rings, that kind of thing - and accompanying them there's always been topics dedicated to destroying other games the way we destroy those featuring our favourite blue spikeball.  The obvious thought, then, is why not spread the TSC love to these games too?
Originally announced in May 2006, TSC4 was intended to allow fans of any and all game series to run their own version of TSC, to spread the competitive love outside the Sonic community.  TSC4 took a while to make it into reality because Rolken was totally inconsiderate and did pointless things like get married, but we now do indeed have 3 subsites - for Sonic fangames, Mario, and Mega Man.
While the subsites have seen some action, what I think they've struggled to replicate is the awesome TSC community we have.

7. Video Submissions
As we all know now, videos are an absolute mainstay of the site.  They are a means of showing how much you pwn (and of course proving you're not a BSer), of spreading your strats to all the other players, and (especially since YouTube became so popular) a means of promoting TSC itself - in fact there are a good few players we have now who've been brought here by our video awesomeness.  However, it wasn't always so - videos were first permitted in August 2004, and you had to be authorised to upload so that TSC didn't get filled with teh pr0nz (despite PPA's best efforts)
There are currently OVER 9000 over 900 videos uploaded to TSC - the 1000th vid will receive a Special Prize from me*!

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6. The Emerald Challenges
The forums have always had their share of alternative challenges for people to compete in; topics for challenges such as completing levels without rings or getting the fastest death possible are a tradition amongst our community that stretches back to before the site even existed.  The Emerald Challenges, originally an SCD project, came to us through their master and overlord SpinDashMaster in October 2006.  The basic premise is that you complete a task in the original GeneDrive like completing levels without spindash or remaining underwater for obscene amounts of time.  They ramp up in difficulty all the way up to the Master Emerald challenges, which I don't think we've had anyone complete all of, though Thorn is damn close (*prepares to be shouted down by someone 1337*).  The Emerald Challenges brought a bunch of new people to TSC, provided a welcome and fun distraction from the daily grind of Epic TAing(tm) and were a great way for those new to the competitive gaming scene to get started.  The levels of activity we had, particularly in the early days, are still a fond memory of mine (and I'm sure many other share this sentiment).
Latterly, there spawned the frankly epic fanfic-disguised-as-challenge Cough Drop Challenges courtesy of SM, and the frankly less than epic fanfic-disguised-as-challenge Mural Challenges courtesy of RPG; there have also been some attempts to get ones going for other series, although that's never seemed to have had a huge amount of traction.
Things are pretty quiet on the EC front these days; to the best of my knowledge they're no longer being judged and the last activity in the sub-forum is over a month old.  However, they're a good deal of fun if you haven't done them yet, and they mark a great time of new and varied competition at TSC, and for that we honour them here.

5. The Sonic Olympics
The Sonic Olympics was a competition organized by the Sonic Cage Dome, featuring netplay and TA competitions.  Also participating were TSS, SoaH and TSF, but the main competition was between SCD and TSC.  The early events passed with SCD securing a slight advantage (see http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=1001.0 for a fuller account) - SCD were showing their ability in the netplay stakes, but TSC had to be favourites as the remaining events were predominantly TA based.  Even early in the tournament there was bickering between the two sides over rulings, but I don't think anyone quite expected the silliness that was to follow.
It was one event that ensured the Olympics would remain forever notorious in TSC's history.  As we know, mike89 is a kick-ass player of all games, and at the time particularly good at the GeneDrive ones, and he was to represent us in the Sonic 2 marathon - fastest time through the game, start to finish, wins.  This was an event made for Mike, and he didn't disappoint, setting a time of 23:14 (real-world time of 28:20) which any S2 players will recognise as something quite special.  In fact even the SCD judge (whose idea was it to have one of the teams as sole judge, I mean that was never going to end well) recognised how good it was, but found some "issues" - namely that Mike supposedly had used autofire (which SM debunked by using his 1337 h4X0r skillz on the file to show the uneven distribution of button presses), and that the recording he submitted had too large a file size (Mike had started from a savestate rather than true power on - legally, at the time - which adds the state to the file).  Having been roundly chastised for this, the tack swapped to Mike having used slowdown - not emulator slowdown, though, a third-party app that slowed it down for the recording then allowing it to be played back normally - apparently SM could make this because he knew what hex was and the judge didn't (how this is possible but computers wouldn't be able to autofire exactly every 1/30th of a second we never did ascertain).  After many, many hours of patient discussion, though, sanity broke through - the decision was finally reversed and TSC were declared the winners - Rolken even got a t-shirt out of it.  He gets all the cool shit because he's awesome and stuff.
For a short while thereafter there was a degree of loldrama in the relations between SCD and TSC that I don't care to retread; suffice to say that's all ancient history now, common sense prevails and its live and let live.  Milky bars for everyone!

4. Introduction Of Sitewide Rankings
For many years there was much debate about how we could determine who the best at TSC was.  We had Top Tens, we had chatroom bantering and we had outright bragging (anyone else remember the series of "I'm calling you out" topics?  Whatever happened to them?).  On March 10th 2007, they were finally introduced, proclaiming that the best of the best were mike89, RPG and sonicam in that order (of course, the fact Mike had a hand in the formula has nothing to do with it, honest!).
The Sitewides reward excellence across many games, encouraging people to compete in charts they wouldn't otherwise, and showing who the best of the best really are.  Some might say they determine your worth as a human being, but as RPG is still quite far up that's idea is clearly rubbish and should be discouraged.

3. Scores/Rings Added To Rankings
For the first two years of TSC's life, the focus was on speed, speed and more speed - however, there were long and varied discussions about how to incorporate rings and scores into the main competition (and if they even should be).  It was in fact genus of Top Ten Top Tens fame (lol selfplug) who first suggested scores being weighted way back in July 2004.  Suggestions ranged from creating separate championships for Times and Scores, Times and Scores/Rings, Times and Scores/Rings and Overall True Champion - we could go on, but you get the gist of it.  Most of the resistance was against Rings, the thought being that they were too easy (see Top Ten #7), although there were the speed-is-everything purists too.  The eventual consensus was of course the model we know now - leaderships per division and an overall championship consisting of them all.  At the time, not many were playing Scores or Rings, and players were given time to beef up their stats in preparation for the switch, but the changeover at the tail-end of 2005 still resulted in a bunch of switcharounds, amongst them RPG grabbing the SA2(B) title for the first time.
Even now it's a contentious issue, with recent discussions on reducing the weight of Rings and Scores or even removing them from championships altogether - what can't be denied, though, is that there are players who love them, they've added variety and drama to the charts, and the impact of their inclusion is one of the biggest things to happen to TSC.

2. The Great Downtime
April 1st, 2005.  TSC is going from strength to strength, boasting 23 games and some excellent competition, when suddenly it vanishes without a trace.  At the time, Rolken was AWOL, so nobody knew what was happening, and when (or if) TSC would return.  In June, Rolken reappeared to promise TSC's return, and on July 5th the site was indeed back - unfortunately, the last stats backup was from December.
So what's the big deal here?  A fledgling site had a couple of months downtime; it happens, it's annoying but not world-ending.  Well, in this case, it stirred up all sorts of competitive drama.  Many had been competing hard during TSC's absence, chief amongst them mike89 who was able to take a massive 10 simultaneous championships when the site returned (although he claims only 7 of them count, the others being just that he was first to re-enter stats for them) but also RPG, OSG and others.  The few days following the site's reappearance were a veritable orgy of submissions and competition, although oddly nobody will now talk about what happened to restore normality.  One conspiracy theory states Rolken had a select few troublemakers killed to restore order (although why he'd leave RPG is anyone's guess).
The Great Downtime now has passed into TSC folklore as both the site's Second Coming and a terrible reminder of what it's like to be deprived of the site for any length of time.  We can only hope there will never be a repeat - so Gerbil, don't go near the server when you've been drinking kplz.

1. Genesis (see what I did there?)
In the beginning, there was the Site, and the Site was GameFAQs - specifically, the message boards for SA2(B).  There could be found topics full of TA goodness, and amongst the posters were names like RPGnutter, NintenDan, Cybrax, SS101, SadisticMystic and mike89.  Given the popularity of the game for competitive play and the fact that every other post on that board was character analysis of Shadow, it was clear that somewhere saner was needed for competitors to gather and strut their stuff.  The first incarnation of this was SA Elite, where competitors all had their own page to put their stats for whichever categories they liked.  One person, though, thought it was a bit silly to have stats all over the place like this, and created somewhere where everyone's stats could be collected in one place.  His name was Rolken, and I think you all know what's coming next.
On October 23rd 2003, the ParaSonic Competition Center was born (and of course it wouldn't be me if I didn't point out the amount of Fail in that name >_>).  Initially, submissions are manual, anyone can submit a time for anyone else, and only 4 games were available - the two Adventures and the first two advances.  To kick start the rankings Rolken primed them with stats from SA Elite, which went live on the 26th.  Not everything made the jump (there were topics for things like lowest scores); a key one that did was SA2(B) Boss rankings, for the Boss TA topic at GFAQs was very popular when it was inexplicably wiped, the consequence of which was members jumping over to us full-time, including the infamous RPG.  In November, the submissions system became automatic (although there was still no login so you could still change others' stats); it was in December, though, that the site as we know it came to be.  Along with a name change to The Sonic Center and a move to www.soniccenter.org came the addition of the classic GeneDrive games (Sonic CD included).
The rest, as they say, is history.

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Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
« Reply #670 on: October 24, 2008, 06:34:46 pm »
Oh noes a double post

So I thought I'd take a minute to round up a little.  I said when we started this it was a touch ambitious and so it proved; I think we had a good go at being entertaining and informative though (mind you, if Gerbil wasn't getting drunk and violating the server we would have posted this all on the big day).

I'd like to thank a few folks: obviously there's genus, who has been amazing to write with as I hope comes across; mike for his History of TSC topic and various other helpings; RPG for also furnishing me with infos of the less accurate variety; epicmafia.com for being the real reason we ran behind welcome relief when needed; Thorn for not killing me when I buggered up the Sonic DIY entry and deprived him of his rightful glory; Zeupar for forum-stalking me and probably finding out everything I was writing about in the process; all the various peoples who keep shit (mostly) running (Gerbil, SM et al); Rolken for starting the whole shebang; and everyone else for being cool and giving me material.

Finally, happy birthday TSC and here's to five more years!

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« Reply #671 on: October 24, 2008, 08:37:02 pm »
Well, nice to see all of them (but #4) up, and there's certainly plenty of interesting top tens.  That certainly makes up for the downtime of top tens >_>
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« Reply #672 on: October 25, 2008, 12:54:18 am »
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« Reply #673 on: October 25, 2008, 01:28:32 am »
Why bother =/...
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« Reply #674 on: October 26, 2008, 12:33:04 am »
Douglas #1 was awesome. I loved it. TSC is a special place, and I'm glad you could capture some of the great moments.
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« Reply #675 on: October 26, 2008, 03:07:52 am »
Get #4 done already, dammit.
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« Reply #676 on: October 26, 2008, 06:32:23 am »
^ agreed....

Also, I'd like to note that the top-ten topic for the tenth year better be epic...  or else!
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Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
« Reply #683 on: October 30, 2008, 04:08:02 pm »
Can we please stop building the Great Quote Pyramid of TSC? *Sends a mob of Killa Kans to tear it down with Rokkit Launchas and Power Claws.
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« Reply #684 on: October 30, 2008, 04:50:01 pm »
Agreed. I've tired to end it with a lulz, but that didn't work.
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« Reply #685 on: October 30, 2008, 04:54:07 pm »
hey, now that you mention it...it DOES look like a pyramid, even if it's a bit rectangular...

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« Reply #686 on: October 31, 2008, 03:19:00 am »
It looks like a Solitare Mah-Jong layout.
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« Reply #688 on: November 04, 2008, 08:54:03 pm »
Get #4 done already, dammit.
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« Reply #689 on: November 04, 2008, 08:56:02 pm »
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