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ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« on: April 26, 2009, 01:34:18 am »
http://www.soniccenter.org/members/dad3i/sonic_adventure_2_b/races

According to your race charts, you have 3-lap stats that are impossible to obtain with the given 1-lap stats. I PM'd you about this, and all you seemed to do was fudge the numbers to make them look better instead of actually checking the stats from your copy of SA2.

Please respond with an explanation as to why you did this.

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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 01:51:54 am »
I guess I didn't understand how to post my race stats the first time I started doing this. I tried fixing this problem, but I was still confused.
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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2009, 01:52:42 am »
I don't really see what's confusing about it. 3-lap times are the total time for a race, and 1-lap time is your best time for a single lap.

That, and not responding to PMs I send and attempting to register a second account isn't helping you.

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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2009, 07:06:12 pm »
Now you've been called here, I just want to know if you really got 225 rings in death chamber mission 1 or you just typed it wrong like you say you did with your race times :).
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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2009, 10:37:27 pm »
About my 225 rings in Death Chamber, I went ring digging. 225 rings was the amount I got in the Dreamcast version, but the Gamecube version, I wound up with 196 rings because I didn't dig up any rings.
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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2009, 12:27:07 am »
Digging up rings is illegal. Please read the rules.

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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2009, 12:43:48 am »
If you would like a chance at being unbanned from submissions, please post your actual SA2 race stats here for all six charts. Also, please indicate any SA2 ring stats that may be inaccurate due to ring digging. (You should have read the rules before submitting...)

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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2009, 11:49:19 am »
3 lap Beginner: 1:37:55 Shadow's New Kart time
         Standard: 2:13:73 " "
         Expert:     3:00:98 Egg Robo's time
1 lap Beginner: 0:40:75 Shadow's New Kart
         Standard: 0:49:63 " "
         Expert: 1:00:78 Egg Robo

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There are no other hunting levels that I did actual ring digging. I apologize for this happening.
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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2009, 04:41:39 pm »
No problem, since you pay attencion to the rules before doing something :D
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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2009, 04:43:52 pm »
Those kart times seem legit. They're not fake I can tell. And the rings on that level. Yes, I think he's right.
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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2009, 05:22:43 pm »
3 lap Beginner: 1:37:55 Shadow's New Kart time
         Standard: 2:13:73 " "
         Expert:     3:00:98 Egg Robo's time
1 lap Beginner: 0:40:75 Shadow's New Kart
         Standard: 0:49:63 " "
         Expert: 1:00:78 Egg Robo

Death Chamber m1 actual ring count: 196
There are no other hunting levels that I did actual ring digging. I apologize for this happening.
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Those kart times seem legit. They're not fake I can tell. And the rings on that level. Yes, I think he's right.

Now, I don't know the game, and I don't claim to, but I do know numbers...

How is it possible that the fastest lap he's EVER completed on Expert Egg-Robo is 1:00'78 (please use correct notation, btw), and yet for a 3-lap run it was LESS than three times that?

and this applies to all the 1Lap vs. 3Lap recs... 

I'm not calling BS, because it wouldn't be the first time numbers themselves are tracked incorrectly, or because they might happen to not be pulled from the same races, but if it's the numbers themselves, this doesn't make any sense at all.
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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2009, 07:40:59 pm »
I think with the 3 lap times, you add all your lap 1, 2, and 3 times to get your total time.
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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2009, 07:52:11 pm »
3-lap times are saved; 1-laps aren't. While it's possible to extrapolate a worst-case scenario of 1:00.32 from the 3-lap time as given, perhaps he just played through the race again and took the fastest lap from those to get a known single lap.

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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2009, 07:57:27 pm »
I think with the 3 lap times, you add all your lap 1, 2, and 3 times to get your total time.
If by that you mean "add your best lap 1, best lap 2, and best lap 3" times, then no. 3-lap times are the *total* time displayed after completing the race.
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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2009, 03:16:58 am »
3-lap times are saved; 1-laps aren't. While it's possible to extrapolate a worst-case scenario of 1:00.32 from the 3-lap time as given, perhaps he just played through the race again and took the fastest lap from those to get a known single lap.

This makes sense.  Thanks, SM!
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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2009, 10:23:13 pm »
thinking about cancelling my account here...
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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2009, 10:33:46 pm »
Just because you couldn't understand the 3-lap concept and 2 people politely telling you how to get your 3-lap times, you're gonna leave?

Probably one of the dumbest reasons I've ever heard, but whatever you want to do with your account is your own business.

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Re: ATTN: dad3i - Phony SA2 Race Times
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2009, 06:34:15 pm »
Well don't end it now yet. I was b& over a year ago and I still am alive here. Just for one thing, you are going to cut and run? I'm not saying that you 'have' to stay here. It's totally your choice. Don't take this little thing to hard. You can come back as a better person and your chances of 'parole' will increase. (Mine have just not so much -_-) Do well Dad3i, I would suggest taking part in Cyberscore as an alternative. Just don't mess things up over there. Which I don't. (In fact I haven't submitted anything there since February). THings are slower over there so climbing ranks is easier, but don't let that get to your head.

Well good luck to then.
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