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Offline KnucklesSonic8

Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #300 on: September 12, 2006, 04:42:19 pm »
PART 1

As you may know, I am the creator of a very popular topic on the “Information Kiosk” board entitled, “New Competition Suggestions”. I can tell you that I never would have guessed this topic would be one of the most popular topics on the forums on the site! I do not know if you have taken the opportunity to view the topic thoroughly yourself but as indicated by the title of the topic, I have suggested many new ideas for competition on the site and I think you will find most of the proposals to be quite thought-provoking. But, before I begin, these are all the members involved in helping me with these proposals in one way or another:

RPGnutter, Thorn, F-Man, mike89, SadisticMystic, blueblaze, douglas, magnum12, Marth, PsyBorg, Groudon199, Shadow Jacky, eredani, eggFL

Now, let me introduce all of the proposals found within our topic, then, I will proceed to discuss each of them in greater detail. So, with hopes of not losing your attention, here are all the proposals found within our topic:

Existing:
Shadow the Hedgehog
Sonic Riders
Sonic Advance 3
Sonic Heroes
Sonic Battle

New:
Sonic the Fighters/Championship
Sonic Shuffle

Hopefully, by listing the proposals, I have captured your attention. Now, I shall now proceed into discussing, in detail, more about each of the proposals. Thank you for you undivided attention thus far. Here are the proposals in detail:

Proposal 1:
Game – Shadow the Hedgehog
Number of Proposals – 1
Number of Supporting Members – 10
All Supporting Members – Shadow Jacky, Groudon199, eggFL, PsyBorg, F-Man, RPGnutter, eredani, magnum12, blueblaze, Thorn.
First Member to Suggest – Shadow Jacky, Groudon199

Although I, personally, will not be participating in any divisions form this game due to the fact that I have yet to play it, I still feel that this new division for Rings should be included for competition. For one, as you probably may have noticed, not many are competing in Shadow the Hedgehog as they used to as indicated by two things: (a) the lack-of-frequency to which new stats are submitted for that game, and, (b) Groudon199’s signature announcing to any who reads it that he’s tired of participating in the same old competitions and he’s tired of being the only one competing. By implementing this new division, more members will naturally want to try to participate in the game more since the Rings Divisions are usually quite popular on the site. The Rings Divisions for this game would consist of a division for each level. Although some stages have a maximum number of rings that can be obtained, it’ll be quite challenging to achieve that maximum score. As seen by the structure of the proposal as well as the need for the division, I can tell this new proposal will work out well! You’d be making a wise choice by implementing this division for it will certainly challenge even members who are quite good at the game, and it will prove to be an, all-around good competition for members to participate in.

Proposal 2:
Game – Sonic Riders
Number of Proposals – 4
Number of Supporting Members – 6
All Supporting Members – knuckles_sonic8, eggFL, Shadow Jacky, RPGnutter, PsyBorg, Thorn.
First Member to Suggest – knuckles_sonic8

I am very confident that all of the above proposals for Sonic Riders will enhance the level of competition for the game. Sonic Riders seems to be a quite popular game on the site. Frequently, you will see either a new member participating for the first time or existing members improving their previous results and submissions. The proposal that will enhance competition for the game the most would surely be divisions for Mission Mode. In this mode, it’s pure skill and the variety of challenges found in this mode. I feel very strongly about this – these divisions would surely enhance the competition in Sonic Riders. Also, just as noteworthy is the Survival Battle Mode. Competitions would entail members striving their best to defeat all 3 of their computer opponents in the fastest time possible across 3 different tracks. Personally, I can see the Space Theatre stage causing a bit of trouble for competitors, since it seems to be more luck-based than skill-based in my opinion so maybe it should not be added, but, then again, you may have a different point-of-view and that is perfectly fine (I didn’t include it in the Divisions List; you can if you would like). We have also proposed divisions for Tag Mode. This could also be competitive in the sense that you must work with your computer partner to reach the goal, but, if a person goes too fast, they won’t get anywhere – instant competition! I am not as confident with this proposal as I am with Mission Mode but I still think members could have an enjoyable time with these new divisions for Tag Mode. The final proposal for the game is for the Survival Race Mode. Now, it has come to my attention that getting a good time on this will be difficult, indeed, as I have witnessed first-hand. But that’s not necessarily a bad thing! The amount of difficulty in getting a good time in this mode would truly make for great competition, indeed. However, I can see one area, or flaw, where things may get a little “iffy”, if you will. I don’t know if you’ve played this mode before but once you complete the game with the required number of points, the clock still continues another 5 seconds (this is also true in the Survival Battle Mode) for some strange reason. I have two solutions: (a) We can make a rule of adding 5 seconds to whatever our final time (tedious, if you ask me), or, (b) we can live with the 5-section deduction and still submit our times. Partly based on what some members have said, I feel the Second Solution would be a more effective choice, but, again, it is your choice in the end. You will not be sorry if you include these new divisions. I am very confident Sonic Riders will have more participation from the members on the site if they were included.

Proposal 3:
Game – Sonic Advance 3
Number of Proposals – 2
Number of Supporting Members – 8
All Supporting Members – RPGnutter, knuckles_sonic8, F-Man, Groudon199, eredani, blueblaze, mike89, Thorn
First Member to Suggest – RPGnutter, knuckles_sonic8

As you know, the inclusion of the three Sonic Advance games on the site for competition has gotten many members to participate. However, I am speaking from experience when I say that there are some who have had trouble getting in the top ranks in Sonic Advance games, particularly Sonic Advance 3. I, personally, find it very difficult to get a good time, even though I haven’t progressed through the game all the way yet. Nevertheless, implementing a new Rings Division would surely receive much support because, like I said before, these divisions are quite popular amongst members. A new division for rings would surely motivate more members to participate in the Sonic Advance 3 competition. This division would involve all stages, with all 3 acts for each stage. Such a division will surely be great competition. Also, implementing a Time Division (maybe Extra?) for the Enemy Bonus Games would also be a good choice. In this bonus, you must defeat all the enemies in the stage within the time limit. This bonus game actually proves to be quite challenging so it’ll be interesting to see the times that members who will participate will come up with. These two new proposals, especially a Ring Division, will surely make Sonic Advance 3 a greater competition on the site.

Proposal 4:
Game – Sonic Heroes
Number of Proposals – 2
Number of Supporting Members – 7
All Supporting Members – knuckles_sonic8, Thorn, magnum12, mike89, Shadow Jacky, eredani, blueblaze
First Member to Suggest – knuckles_sonic8, Shadow Jacky

Sonic Heroes is another game where a majority of members on the site participate. The Times and Ring Divisions are equally popular as are the Score and Extra Divisions. However, it has come to the attention of both me and some other members that there are no divisions set aside for the Extra missions for Team Chaotix. As you can see from the participation of many members, the Chaotix missions are quite popular. Not only that, but they entail a lot of skill, leading many to believe that competing in these divisions of Sonic Heroes are quite competitive, indeed. Thus, by implementing score divisions for the Extra missions for Team Chaotix, you will find that this will surely please many members who have been trying to get these competitions on the site for quite some time. These missions will involve the scores that will be recorded in 10 different divisions as opposed to 14. 4 stages have been removed because the mission basically adds a Time Limit and adding a new division for that purpose would be, as one member said, “redundant”. You will not be sorry in implementing this, what will surely be a competitive division. Also, all over the forums, many members have apparently urged others to approach Administrators to add Special Stage divisions found in this game onto the site - it’s of little wonder why; the division would be greatly beneficial to the competition! – but to no avail. You cannot deny the fact that many would love a Special Stage competition for Sonic Heroes. Special Stages are very competitive, not to mention popular, in other games on the site. Both Bonus and Emerald Special Stages will prove to be very competitive divisions. There are 7 stages for Bonus and 7 for Emerald each played with a different team – Teams Sonic, Dark, Rose, or Chaotix. Speaking of which, since there is not a large difference in the speed capacities of Team Sonic and Team Dark, we’ve decided to combine the two into one sub-category as opposed to 2. We have also decided to make a division called “Most Links” whereby competitors can submit their best link combo they have ever received on any Special Stage. Finally, a total to add up all the scores (excluding the “Most Links” category). Make no mistake! Making this into a competition would surely attract many members and it will help Sonic Heroes to receive much more participation from participating members on the site.

Proposal 5:
Game – Sonic Battle
Number of Proposals – 1
Number of Supporting Members – 3
All Supporting Members – knuckles_sonic8, magnum12, sonicam, F-Man
First Member to Suggest – magnum12, sonicam

This proposal is actually fairly new which is why not many members have demonstrated their support on this proposal. Nevertheless, for Sonic Battle, we have proposed new divisions that will surely enhance the amount of participation that goes into the game. Since there is only a Score division, members can easily get tired of continually participating in a single division, especially when (a) they have scores on all available categories, (b) when some have gone as far as they can with the scores in the respective categories, and (c) when the Score division can be tedious at times. The new competition we are proposing for Sonic Battle is a Time division. I think this proposal is, not only a great idea, but also, an idea I feel confident will be successful. The times will be done in Challenge Mode and the divisions will be divided this way: Character/Difficulty/Stage. This new proposal will definitely be successful, I’m sure. The amount of participation that goes into Sonic Battle will surely have an evident increase, not to mention, the great competition that will occur by implementing a Time division.

I really appreciate you not being the close-minded on these issues, not to mention, being very patient with me during this lengthy message. But, don’t worry, the conclusion approaches. The next two proposals are new games, both suggested by, yours truly, knuckles_sonic8, and I speak on behalf on quite a few members when I ask that you do not reject these new ideas right away without giving it some thought. These new proposals will definitely by excellent additions to TSC. They are as follows:

Proposal 1:
Game – Sonic the Fighters/Championship (GC)
All Proposals – Stage Times, Final Clear Time
Number of Supporting Members – 12
All Supporting Members – knuckles_sonic8, RPGnutter, Thorn, F-Man, mike89, douglas, magnum12, Marth, PsyBorg, Groudon199, Shadow Jacky, blueblaze
Total Number of Divisions – 11

I never thought this game would be so great! This game is certainly one to remember and it’s great that it’s finally being featured on the home console! This game definitely is competition-worthy on the site. I am confident that some of the same competitors that participate in other games featured on Sonic Gems Collection such as Sonic CD and R would be thrilled to participate in divisions for this game. There is certainly a lot of competition to be had from this game since it tests your skill without any luck-based flaws or anything of that nature. Certainly, this is a game that deserves a place on the site. The divisions would consist of 10 stages, with sub-categories of 8 characters, plus a division where members can submit their best clear time in a division entitled, “All”. Members will surely get a ‘kick’ (or a punch) out of playing and participating in the competitions for this game!

Proposal 2:
Game – Sonic Shuffle (DC)
All Proposals – Stage Rings, Stage Emblems, Mini-Games, Precioustones
Number of Supporting Members – 7
All Supporting Members – knuckles_sonic8, RPGnutter, Thorn, F-Man, mike89, SadisticMystic, blueblaze
Total Number of Divisions – 61

I can confidently say that by bringing Sonic Shuffle to TSC, there will be much competition, participation, and, not to mention, fun! Now, I am not sure if you are familiar with the game or not but if you are, you may think that because of the rarity of the game, Sonic Shuffle should not be added to the site. But, Sonic Shuffle kind of reminds me of Knuckles Chaotix – a game not many members would have, yet, filled with challenge and variety. Sonic Shuffle has a lot of potential as far as competition goes. The entertaining mini-games have a lot of competition-potential as they all range in divisions of Rings, Scores and Times, and they are all different, making the competition have a lot of variety. They are definitely competition-worthy for they are good tests of both skill and endurance: for instance, the mini-game, “Croc-Attack” has players press the A Button repeatedly to escape the jaws of a crocodile within the time limit. Speaking from experiences, even ‘button-mashers’ will find this mini-game to be quite difficult, as is the case with many other mini-games, showing that skill is definitely needed for a member to be successful in these challenges. In addition, even the Story/Versus Mode stages can be quite competitive as well as far as collecting Emblems, Precioustones, and Rings go. Mind you, these competitions may not be as exciting as the mini-games are but you can see that this game has a lot of variety to offer for those who are willing to participate. Surely it deserves a place on TSC (I was surprised it already wasn’t on the site when I first joined). Don’t make the mistake of ignoring the proposal. Rest assured, Sonic Shuffle has a lot of variety for the members on TSC that will prove it to be a very good competition.

Thank you once again for your patience. Now, the conclusion of this message comes even closer. To help you with whichever competitions you do decide to implement, I have compiled a list for each game as to all of the divisions you would need to add as well as additional rules you may need to add. They are as follows:

Shadow the Hedgehog:
Header: Rings

All 23 stages.

Sonic Riders:
Header: Extra
*Unless otherwise indicated, all [Storm, Wave and Jet] of the below divisions are TIME-BASED Missions.

*Storm

Metal City, 3
“”,  5
Splash Canyon, 3
“”, 5
Egg Factory, 3
“”,  5
Green Cave, 3
Sand Ruins, 3
 â€œâ€, 5
Babylon Garden, 3
Digital Dimension, 3
“”, 5
SEGA Carnival, 3

*Wave

Night Chase, 3
“”, 5
Red Canyon, 3
Ice Factory, 3
White Cave, 3
Dark Desert, 3
Sky Road, 3
Babylon Guardian, 3
SEGA Illusion, 3

*Jet
*E -> Extra

E1, 1
E1,  4 [Score]
E2, 2
E2, 4 [Score]
E2, 5
E3, 1
E3, 3
E4, 1
E4, 3
E4, 5

**Exclusing "Part 1" at top and this note, 15,977 characters w/ spaces.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2006, 05:18:22 pm by knuckles_sonic8 »
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #301 on: September 12, 2006, 04:44:03 pm »
PART 2

Header: Time

Dual Towers [Survival Battle]
Snow Valley [“”]

*Each of the below divisions have 2 sub-categories: Tag, and, Survival Race.
*Survival Race times will be high starting from a 15:00 timer (if a member gets 14:00’99 and another gets 14:01’00, the second member has a better time - that’s how the mode works).

Metal City
Splash Canyon
Egg Factory
Green Cave
Sand Ruins
Babylon Garden
Digital Dimension
SEGA Carnival
Night Chase
Red Canyon
Ice Factory
White Cave
Dark Desert
Sky Road
Babylon Guardian
SEGA Illusion

Special Rules:
-For submissions in Tag Mode, your partner must be a computer player as do your opponents. Playing with another human player will make your submission void.
-All settings must be left to their defaults for your times to count. For Tag Mode submissions, the settings are: 'Total Laps: 3', 'Air Pit: On'. For Survival Race Mode submissions, the settings are: 'Time Limit: 15', ‘Item: On', 'Points: 5'. For Survival Battle Mode submissions, the settings are: 'Time Limit: 15', ‘Item: On'.

Sonic Advance 3:
Header: Rings
* Each of the below divisions also have 3 sub-categories: Acts 1, 2, 3.

Route 99,
Sunset Hill
Ocean Base
Toy Kingdom
Twinkle Snow
Cyber Track
Chaos Angel

Special Rules:
-You cannot spend more than 10-minutes on a single level.

Header: Time (Extra?)
* Each of the below divisions also has the sub-category: Enemy Bonus.

Route 99
Sunset Hill
Ocean Base
Toy Kingdom
Twinkle Snow
Cyber Track
Chaos Angel

Sonic Heroes:
Header: Special
* Each of the below divisions also have 3 sub-categories: Sonic/Dark (combined), Rose, Chaotix.

Bonus Challenge 1-7
Emerald “” 1-7
Total ( “Most Links” seperate.)
Most Links

Header: Scores
*All have sub-category: Chaotix.

Seaside Hill
Ocean Palace
Power Plant
Casino Park
BINGO Highway
Bullet Station
Lost Jungle
Hang Castle
Mystic Mansion
Final Fortress

Sonic Battle:
Header: Times (Challenge)

Division Break-Up:
Character/Difficulty/Stage
10 x 3 x 5 = 150 new divisions

*Characters: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Rouge, Amy, Cream, E-102, Chaos, Emerl.
*Difficulty and Stages are numbered (1-3; 1-5)

Special Rules:
-All times must be done in Challenge Mode.

Sonic the Fighters/Championship:
Header: Times

* Each of the below divisions also have the following sub-categories: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Espio, Bark, Bean, Fang.

South Island
Flying Carpet
Aurora Icefield
Mushroom Hill
Canyon Cruise
Casino Night
Dynamite Plant
Giant Wing
Death Egg's Eye
Robotnik's Hangar
All [NOT Total!]

Special Rules:
-You are allowed to use Hyper Mode as many times as you like.
-All submissions must be made on Normal Difficulty only.
-All settings must be left to their defaults for your times to count. This includes 'Barrier: 5', 'Hyper Mode: On', 'Automatic: Off', 'Damage: Low', 'Match Time: 30', 'Energy Max: Normal', and 'Match Count: 2'. Changing any will result in a void submission.
-If you become Super Sonic on the last level, your final clear time can count towards the "All [Sonic]" category.

Sonic Shuffle:
Header: Rings

*Each of the below divisions also have 2 sub-categories: Story, and, Versus.

Emerald Coast
Fire Bird
Nature Zone
Riot Train
Fourth Dimension Space

*The remaining submissions are Mini-Games; no sub-categories.

Sonic Gun Slinger
Sonic Live
Psychic Sonic
Sonic Tag
Shadow Tag
Frosty Rumble
Fun Fun Sonic
Thor's Hammer
Bucket-O-Rings

* Some of the below divisions have sub-categories (characters), indicated in parenthesis.

Bungee Jump [Single Player]
“”  [Team]
Manic Maze [“”]
Sonicooking [Single Player]
“” [Team]
Sonic DJ [Single Player]
“” [Team]
Sonic Parasol
Ring Tide
Rapid Climb
Sky Bridge
Ring of Fire
Ring Lasso
Final Frontier
Sky Diving
Sonic Surfing
Earth Quake
Void Battle
Twister
Total

Header: Scores

* Each of the next divisions has 2 sub-categories: Most Emblems, and, Most Precioustones.

Emerald Coast
Fire Bird
Nature Zone
Riot Train
Fourth Dimension Space

*The next two have no sub-categories.

Sonic the Thief
Sonic Slot [Note: A lower score is a person's goal, not a higher score.]

Header: Times

* Some of the below divisions also have sub-categories (characters), indicated in parenthesis.

Stop and Go
Great Escape
Sonic Tank
Wrong Way Climb [Team]
Manic Maze [Single Player]
Gargantua [Single Player]
“” [Team]
Eggbot's Attack [Single Player]
Croc-Attack
Total

Special Rules:
-ALL submissions must be made with Computers on a Normal Difficulty. If on Easy or Hard, or if you play with another human player, your submission will not count.
-Submissions for Stage Rings can be done in either Story or Versus Mode. However, in Story Mode, Rings collected in the Final Mini-Game do not count towards your final score.
-Submissions for Precioustones and Emblems can be done in either Story or Versus Mode. However, in Versus Mode, you must play with 7 Precioustones.
-Getting a Forcejewel does not earn you extra rings.
-Ring records for mini-games are to be taken using the total given at the Results Screen in the Toy Box. Story and Versus mode submissions are acceptable, as long as they account for the extra 10 rings that are given in the Toy Box.
-Ring records for Board Clear Mini-Games can only be taken from Toy Box.
-When competing in Time Divisions, it is the number of seconds left on the timer you complete the game with.
-No 'auto controllers' are allowed for any of the divisions.
-When competing in “Team” Mini-Games, the submission will not count if you get knocked out.

___________________


I thank you very much one final time for listening to what I have to say. I truly do appreciate it. Thanks for your extended attention and patience as well. Whatever you decide to do, I’ll just be happy even if you just reply to me letting me know what the final verdict is. I know it’ll take a while to think this through – take your time. I just hope you will acknowledge all of our proposals and I truly hope that you will implement them. I strongly look forward to hearing a reply from you. Thank you once again.

~knuckles_sonic8

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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #302 on: September 12, 2006, 04:55:46 pm »
I hope to get feedback because I am dying to send this to "you know who". So speak now or forever hold your peace (no pun intended).
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #303 on: September 12, 2006, 05:08:42 pm »
Super Hard Mode = No.
Did you not think I had a mind?

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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #304 on: September 12, 2006, 05:10:33 pm »
Super Hard Mode = No.

We're not doing SHM. I knew someone would bring this up. You probably didn't read it craefully. I included it in a section that stated past suggestions that we scrapped - not doing anymore! The idea was scrapped. Hope that clears that up.
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #305 on: September 12, 2006, 05:30:55 pm »
That is silly and confusing D:

Ditch the past/scrapped ideas section, the more confusing this PM is the less chance you have of success
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #306 on: September 12, 2006, 05:33:02 pm »
That is silly and confusing D:

Ditch the past/scrapped ideas section, the more confusing this PM is the less chance you have of success
I was spectical about it as well. Thanks for your input.


EDIT: Past suggestions have now been removed. Thanks RPG.
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #307 on: September 12, 2006, 05:42:59 pm »
I think you mean skeptical, specticals are like those things you wear on your face to improve vision but not *shot*

also no problem :o

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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #308 on: September 12, 2006, 05:51:56 pm »
I think you mean skeptical, specticals are like those things you wear on your face to improve vision but not *shot*

also no problem :o

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That's what I meant. I was kinda rushing when I typed that.
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #309 on: September 12, 2006, 05:56:52 pm »
I think you're over the character limit for PMs, since my high school Junior research paper was shorter.  Can I use your PM for my Senior paper?

Okay, watch this nice time-saving trick, for how I rewrite the Battle competition:

Divisions
Character-Difficulty-Stage
10 x 3 x 5 = 150 new entries

TA DA! Save him some reading.

Some other shortcuts:
Ditch everything up to the word "services" in the Intro.  Rolko shouldn't give a damn who you are, let the proposal do the talking.
The paragraph on Shuffle doesn't say a word on the nature of the Competition.  Gotta truncate that sucker.

There's likely more, but I cant' sift through all that.  Just ditch the fluff, and maybe you can fit it all in one PM.

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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #310 on: September 12, 2006, 06:29:08 pm »
Keep em comin' guys. I'll read 'em all tommorrow. I'll keep that in mind Thorn. I'll work on it @ school (on paper).
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #311 on: September 12, 2006, 06:34:12 pm »
Howzabout you put it in Word, print it, and cross out what's basically you saying your name and saying that we have comp ideas?  You don't hafta say it because he wouldn't be getting a PM about them if we didn't.

Basically, more about the competition and how the comp will work, less about us seeming crazy for petitioning him.  Shuffle in particular suffers from this, you kinda went overboard trying to say that obscurity is okay and didn't say anything about the game.
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #312 on: September 12, 2006, 08:31:42 pm »
Didn't see the Sonic Battle proposal. I support it. I remember asking why there wasn't a time division right after the game was up.

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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #313 on: September 13, 2006, 04:09:15 pm »
Everyone, the proposal has been updated in the earlier post. ANY FEEDBACK would be greatly appreciated!

UPDATE: In total:

WAS: 25,583 characters w/ spaces; 21,411 w/o spaces.

WAS: 24,542 w/ spaces; 20,552 w/o spaces.
:I cut off quite a bit of stuff on Shuffle. It was for the best.

WAS: 23,997 w/; 20,115 w/o.
:I cut off a bit on the intro.

WAS: 23,637 w/; 19,812 w/o.
:Cut off stuff on Shadow and on all 'Existing Games' with part of the format ("All Proposals" removed).

WAS: 23,589 w/; 19,804 w/o.
:Cut off a bit on spacing; edited Sonic Heroes division entry.

WAS: 22,904 w/; 19,244 w/o.
:Cut off a tiny bit of spacing; edited quite a bit from Riders proposal.

WAS: 22,266 w/; 19,700 w/o.
:Re-worded some rules; cut unnecessary words; cut a bit off all division lists.

NOW: 21,724 w/; 18,240 w/o.

Messages here count spaces I believe and that's not good for me... :( I need to cut off some stuff. Any ideas, anyone, of what I can cut off or change?!
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #314 on: September 13, 2006, 04:36:53 pm »
Alternativly you could just post the finished article in a new topic or something
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #315 on: September 13, 2006, 04:37:00 pm »
Under the Shadow Rings division section, you could just say for all 23 of the stages.  There is no difference between each mission in a single stage except the completion requirements, meaning you could remove a division for each level we’ve specified, or,

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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #316 on: September 13, 2006, 04:39:44 pm »
:Referring to what RPG said...

What makes you say that? That idea came across my mind a few times but I didn't want people getting mad at me for something I could've just placed in my already-existing topic.

So, RPG, got any advice for me?
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #317 on: September 13, 2006, 04:40:45 pm »
Not at the moment >_>
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #318 on: September 13, 2006, 04:41:30 pm »
Under the Shadow Rings division section, you could just say for all 23 of the stages.  There is no difference between each mission in a single stage except the completion requirements, meaning you could remove a division for each level we’ve specified, or,

Okay. I wasn't sure how many stages there were since I don't have nor have I ever played the game.

^^ Oh and that's okay RPG.
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #319 on: September 13, 2006, 04:46:25 pm »
And after re-reading the Heroes part, I'm not sure exactly where the Extra Chaotix scores should go.  The Extra division has the times, so I'd assume putting them in the Scores division would make sense.  Then again...

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« Reply #320 on: September 13, 2006, 04:47:55 pm »
And after re-reading the Heroes part, I'm not sure exactly where the Extra Chaotix scores should go.  The Extra division has the times, so I'd assume putting them in the Scores division would make sense.  Then again...
Yeah, that's what I was thinking about too.. Currently, the format is that extra missions for other teams are in Score so, obviously, Score would be a more logical choice. Thanks for your input.
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #321 on: September 13, 2006, 06:51:39 pm »
I'm putting the divisions into a Word document so that you can fit the PM into the character limit.  It'll be done tomorrow, as right now I'm being forcefully shoved away from the PC by my bro.
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« Reply #322 on: September 13, 2006, 08:57:22 pm »
I'm putting the divisions into a Word document so that you can fit the PM into the character limit.  It'll be done tomorrow, as right now I'm being forcefully shoved away from the PC by my bro.

Okay but mine was in Word... Anyway, maybe I'll come online tomorrow then I can finally send this thing.
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #323 on: September 14, 2006, 05:55:18 pm »
I don't get it:19962 Words (w/ space) in Micro. Word and it still says exceeds limit! :S
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #324 on: September 14, 2006, 06:41:10 pm »
When I put it in Word, it came up with 22,174, including the bold and underline codes and the "part 1" and "part 2" lines.

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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #325 on: September 14, 2006, 07:04:33 pm »
No, I'm not putting it all in Word, just the actual division listings.  Editing the paragraphs to make them fit is knuckles_sonic8's job.  I'll PM the doc to ks8, then he can attach it to the PM to Rolken.

You know, Rolken's likely seen this topic, we're likely just taking the long way around, but I guess a PM would be best for the finalized version.

EDIT: What, you can't attach files to PMs?  Whatever, I'll put it on the web, and knuckles_sonic8 can post a link in the PM.
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzenxvu2/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/divisions.doc
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #326 on: September 14, 2006, 07:12:29 pm »
Oh, okay.

edit: Extra stages, not regular stages.

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All 14 standard stages[/url]

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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #327 on: September 14, 2006, 07:21:09 pm »
^Well, I figured it would be listed under "Chaotix Extra", not "Chaotix".  That way, instead of making 14 more stages that only one character would compete in, another character division is made that is competed in fully.  Just a thought, though, iono how Rolken would organize it.
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #328 on: September 14, 2006, 09:59:41 pm »
Does this mean I can send it now?
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Re: New Competition Suggestions
« Reply #329 on: September 15, 2006, 03:09:27 pm »
I plan to send the message today - that's what my goal is. Thorn, listen.

I made a mistake in the proposals. I forgot to add these missions (Sc= score - the attack missions - last one is time):

White Cave, 5 [Sc]
Sega Illusion, 5 [Sc]
Sky Road, 5 [Time]
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