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Sonic Central => Competition Central => Topic started by: flying fox on September 07, 2012, 05:42:56 pm
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After reading on some posts about bringing the community back together, I pitched an idea to the admins about reviving TSC Race Nights. As last time this happened it was a success and looked like people were having fun. However, I was told that this stopped because of SRL.
I was thinking of maybe doing a 2D race one week, then a 3D race the other week, since there might be some people out there who hate racing let's say 2D and would rather race 3D. Just to mix it up a bit. We could also race hacks if people wanted to, even Sonic games that aren't on TSC such as Spinball.
This poll is just to see if people would be interested in doing something like this again. If so there will be more talk on how to implement it, because of SRL.
Please post your comments about this as there is probably something I haven't thought of or you guys might have some ideas of your own.
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I say yes.. But.. I can't really join in(runs finger down face like a tear). I can over Thanksgiving. So.. make sure 3D is over Thanksgiving!
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Random thought, if we brought Race Nights back we could use the main TSC stream to stream every racer's stream simultaneously :P
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Good idea. But I have no clue how to work twitch.. Hah.
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im in, looks like i could only compete on emulator possible games cos i dont have a capture card - any recomendations for a capture card that works on all consoles for europe? Then I can stream sonic 4 ep 1&2 and generations live.
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I'd join in if we did it on SpeedRunsLive. Their system is just perfect for racing. Plus we might expose SRLers to TSC.
If not, then I probably wouldn't join in tbh. TSC doesn't have a leaderboard for races and I can't see GS putting in a bunch of effort to add them. I race on SRL primarily because I like seeing my rank go up and comparing my times with previous times to see if I've improved.
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I'd join in if we did it on SpeedRunsLive. Their system is just perfect for racing. Plus we might expose SRLers to TSC.
If not, then I probably wouldn't join in tbh. TSC doesn't have a leaderboard for races and I can't see GS putting in a bunch of effort to add them. I race on SRL primarily because I like seeing my rank go up and comparing my times with previous times to see if I've improved.
Was pretty much thinking this, especially the first part.
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We would be really really stupid not to use SRL.
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Random thought, if we brought Race Nights back we could use the main TSC stream to stream every racer's stream simultaneously :P
I second this.
Good idea. But I have no clue how to work twitch.. Hah.
If you're serious about this I could help you set it up or someone else can, it's not that hard.
im in, looks like i could only compete on emulator possible games cos i dont have a capture card - any recomendations for a capture card that works on all consoles for europe? Then I can stream sonic 4 ep 1&2 and generations live.
Using an emulator shouldn't be a problem as long as you don't cheat :P. People use emulators for racing in SRL. I live in Europe and I use a dazzle, I think you can use it for streaming but I haven't got round to sorting it out yet.
'd join in if we did it on SpeedRunsLive. Their system is just perfect for racing. Plus we might expose SRLers to TSC.
I was hoping to do race nights on SRL for a number reasons which you just pointed out. With their ranking system we could have some competition between each other. Plus there's the possibility of bringing in new players as I heard there was a 19 person sonic race going on the other night.
We would be really really stupid not to use SRL.
I agree.
Something I forgot to mention the other night. I was thnking of putting a list of games up, and people could just vote for the one that they want to race. The one with the most votes will be the game that we race. I think doing it that way would make most people happy. Should also put up what character they want to play as well. This is just ideas I'm throwing out there.
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I'm not sure if I'm in any shape to race yet, but streaming the races sounds like it would be an instant success. And I see no reason why we couldn't have a race leaderboard too.
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I think we could have a monthly rotation and I think we can do a race more often than once a week. Not everyone needs to be around for each race, and we can also split up the 3d players and the 2d players based on what days they are available to race. Say Sundays are 3d race nights and Wednesdays are 2D race nights. Or have two nights for each. That way we can get more games in per month.
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^ I second this. I will get down on my knees and beg for a 3D race on the weekends. I can't stream with unfinished homework. A. I won't be focused. B. I should get good grades. I want to be on honor role to skip study hall.
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So we have 14 yeses and one no vote, and whoever did that no vote, screw them, they don't have to participate. There's obviously significant interest. Does anyone have any date preferences? If I remember correctly race night used to be every week on Fridays, so we could do our first one this friday night if everyone's good with that.
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I think we could have a monthly rotation and I think we can do a race more often than once a week. Not everyone needs to be around for each race, and we can also split up the 3d players and the 2d players based on what days they are available to race. Say Sundays are 3d race nights and Wednesdays are 2D race nights. Or have two nights for each. That way we can get more games in per month.
This is actually a good idea. That way if people only prefer to race one of them, they don't have to wait that long.
15 Yeses now! Yep we're doing this. This friday should be enough time to organise it.
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i think friday and saturday nights are most convenient for me, but hopefully it will be conveninet for everyone - personally i'd like to see sonic 1, 2, 3&k, CD, and the GG Sonic 1 & 2 as games played, and for 3D games it should be Generations, Unleashed & Colours, & Sonic Adventure 1 & 2. And also Sonic 4 Episode 1, 2 and Episode Metal (But they'll probably come under 2D games). I'm assuming all platforms will be allowed, so emulating games and PC versions of generations and Sonic Adventure are Ok. I'm not very familiar with TSC race night cos I've not been a member for that long. :)
P.S - For console games I think a capture card would be required for live streaming - can anyone recommend to me a good quality and cheap capture card for all consoles (My PC is right next to my consoles so it's not a problem about running back and forth :)
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http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=4449.msg48521#msg48521 (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=4449.msg48521#msg48521)
Found it! TSC race nights used to be on saturdays. It would be nice if we could carry on this tradition, but yeah tell us what you guys think suitable days would be for the two races. So that way we can get as many people racing as possible.
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sonicboom, emulators are fine.
Saturdays work too. :P Next Saturday then?
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One of the classic games would be a good start imo.
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We should all race Sonic 3 Competition Mode Grand Prix
MVGame
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If more people are happy with saturday then we'll go with that. We just need to establish another day for the other race. So reading Umby's post I'm guessing we should start with 2D on saturday and have 3D on the other day whatever that will be?
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Random thought, if we brought Race Nights back we could use the main TSC stream to stream every racer's stream simultaneously :P
No point in doing that since SRL already has a page showing all streams for who is in the race.
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Actually to be more specific I'd like to propose we race Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Decently long game, should be good race material.
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If SADX was in the race, there would need to be different divisions for the PC and DC versions. The PC version has instant loading times, and it saves 4-6 minutes on its own, which is completely unfair to the console players. For DC, it's the opposite. You can't skip cutscenes, so the DC players would be down by 20-30 minutes, despite the player's skill. Even if the person TASed(only in theory, since DC TAS isn't possible), they'd be down by 15-25 minutes.
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I'm up for weekend sonic races as long as it's not like 3-4 am in the morning like saturday night bingo. Perhaps there should be a main game every week and then since everyone is gathered you could chat and go do your main ones with people. I know how hard it can be to find races sometimes...
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To the 3D games list, please add 06. I like that game(let the hate commence). I can do it Saturdays, as long as my homework is done, (I finish it on friday so that should be no problem).
And Sonicboom, I use a dazzle, which is decent for a good price, (fifty dollars and comes with pinnacle studios 12, which is a very good editing software.) It can record in HD, or so I believe.
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I propose friday night and saturday night, whether u do 3d or 2d on which day doesnt bother me, I think for games like DX where loading times are a difference then u should make it fair and make it console specific. I'm only available very other weekend though
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I don't think Dazzles can capture HD footage. Dazzle is set to capture with a composite connection (standard definition), not component. Even the "Plus HD" model Dazzles won't record in HD, they just include the HD (instead of SD) version of their Studio editing suite. Anyway I'm sure streaming with a dazzle would be totally fine.
Although I won't be participating in these race night events, I can see that many people are available on Fridays and Saturdays (especially the latter), so those might be good days to hold the races. I support SB's two-races-a-week proposal, and S3&K would make a good game for the first race (which, from what I've read so far, will hopefully be held this Saturday). 3D Fridays and 2D Saturdays would work, but in the end it comes down to what the race participants and organizers want to do and when. So good luck to everyone, and most important of all have fun :D
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The only problem with this is I will barely get to compete if it's around 7PM your time. This means I'll have to be doing things everynight at 12pm, and as some people at SRL have experienced my parents decide to turn my internet off quite often at night, meaning I won't be able to race.
also srb2
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Well I wanted to talk about what time we should have it. We need a time that is -almost- suitable for everyone.
Also how does everyone feel about having two races in the weekend say friday and saturday maybe? There are many people here who have school, college, uni, jobs and other things that take priorities. So I thought maybe the weekend would be better for everyone.
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Well having multiple days would help people find the time to participate while you'd have to be careful to spread it too thin.
For starters I'd say something like the next 2 fridays and 2 saturdays we'd try to have it at something like 11 pm Greenwich time or perhaps even a couple different times. There could be two 2D and two 3D sonic games during that month and then depending on the amount of participants etc. it could expand to both friday and saturday.
Or perhaps a second thread to vote on suitable times.
You might have to adjust depending on the length of the game, like sonic 2 versus SA2B all stories. But then again there's nothing that doesn't permit multiple races afterwards.
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With longer games such as Heroes, SA2B or any of the long 3d games we usually break up the races into sections, such as "beat x story" or "beat x amount of stages" or something like that. For TSC racenight however, we should try to come up with unique and interesting goals each time we race a game so it doesn't get repetitive. Who am I kidding though, I've raced the same thing in SA2B tens of times :P
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I live in britain, so GMT is my time, 11pm is way too late for myself, it would take me till midnight to finish the game. I think we should have them at 10pm GMT on friday and 7pm GMT on saturday, so everyone at different times gets a turn. :)
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I live in britain, so GMT is my time, 11pm is way too late for myself, it would take me till midnight to finish the game. I think we should have them at 10pm GMT on friday and 7pm GMT on saturday, so everyone at different times gets a turn. :)
Erm it's actually BST here in Britain till October so it would be 10pm the race starts.