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Sonic Central => Competition Central => Topic started by: Muzozavr on October 19, 2009, 12:18:37 am

Title: Yet ANOTHER glitch to BAN for S3K
Post by: Muzozavr on October 19, 2009, 12:18:37 am
HOLY SHIT. ORKAL has done it once more.

Basically, this glitch allows you to start the level from a bonus ring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyqcmNxn2OA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyqcmNxn2OA)

The scary thing is, it's entirely debug-less and Super-form-less. (You will need emeralds for this, but you never actually turn Super/Hyper)
Title: Re: Yet ANOTHER glitch to BAN for S3K
Post by: Luxray on October 19, 2009, 12:33:16 am
It doesn't count as starting at the bonus ring because the time remains the same as when you entered it with knuckles. Plus i don't see how this could affect the fastest times at all :/
Title: Re: Yet ANOTHER glitch to BAN for S3K
Post by: Ring Rush on October 19, 2009, 12:34:41 am
Well, if Knuckles can get to a bonus ring faster than Sonic can, you can use this glitch to help a Sonic run.
Title: Re: Yet ANOTHER glitch to BAN for S3K
Post by: Luxray on October 19, 2009, 12:37:26 am
Which levels even use bonus rings as mini-checkpoints?
Title: Re: Yet ANOTHER glitch to BAN for S3K
Post by: werster on October 19, 2009, 01:11:32 am
What. That could so be exploited. Like, seriously. However it requires both sonic and tails to be human controlled to activate it (at least it seems that way, a computer tails can't carry sonic). Which is already banned. So nyah.
Title: Re: Yet ANOTHER glitch to BAN for S3K
Post by: Muzozavr on October 19, 2009, 02:29:17 am
Knuckles finds a check as close to a far-off bonus ring as possible. Knuckles dies from time over to reset time (IIRC you need a time over but maybe I'm wrong and any death suffices)

Knuckles takes bonus ring. Soft reset.

Do glitch, get faster time. Profit.

Plus, this can be (theoretically) used to get into impossible places for ring/score attacks.

werster, "current run" clause. You can use savestates for the glitch at the end of Lava Reef 1. You can use human-controlled Tails for this glitch. In fact, you could even use debug and as long as it's not in the same level that you're running it'd be by the current rules "fair and square" though it's surely more impressive when done like this, with NO debug whatsoever.
Title: Re: Yet ANOTHER glitch to BAN for S3K
Post by: FuzZerd on October 19, 2009, 02:39:02 am
video doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: Yet ANOTHER glitch to BAN for S3K
Post by: Muzozavr on October 19, 2009, 05:37:00 am
To do the glitch:

1) Have two files, one with S+T all chaos emeralds present but inactive because of one super emerald.
2) Have second file with Knuckles, on the level you want to abuse.
3) Knuckles gets to a bonus ring, does check time reset (either by time over or just death, I can't remember) and soft resets the game.
4) On the first file, go to Hidden Palace.
5) Fly Sonic up and get the lightning shield.
6) Right before Knuckles, scroll the screen up, then fly Sonic there with Tails. To beat Knuckles without touching the ground or being super, jump when Tails is touching Knuckles's sprite. Do this 8 times. It's kinda difficult, but possible.
7) This breaks the Robotnik cutscene. Wait a little while, until Robotnik steals one of the super emeralds (yes)
8) Now hop on the super emerald.... and find yourself in the special stage.
9) Get the emerald or not, you will respawn at the bonus ring that Knuckles touched before soft resetting.

If you do it WITHOUT the "second file" trick it respawns you at an underwater, empty, glitched Angel Island, then when you fall and die it starts over from the intro cutscene.
Title: Re: Yet ANOTHER glitch to BAN for S3K
Post by: Stefan on October 21, 2009, 08:07:16 am
"Common sense applies in all games. If something seems iffy, you probably shouldn't be doing it. Or at least check with someone before you do. Note that if a new rule is enacted, anything already submitted in violation of that rule is void."

If you do a glitch that requires a five minute setup to start halfway into a level, don't you think there might be some provisions against that?
Title: Re: Yet ANOTHER glitch to BAN for S3K
Post by: FuzZerd on October 21, 2009, 06:27:39 pm
"You may start any zone's Act 2 from the end of Act 1 or from selecting Act 2 in stage select, but from nowhere else."
Title: Re: Yet ANOTHER glitch to BAN for S3K
Post by: Parax on October 21, 2009, 06:30:38 pm
"You may start any zone's Act 2 from the end of Act 1 or from selecting Act 2 in stage select, but from nowhere else."


that does not cover act 1.