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Sonic Central => Leaderboard Disputes => Topic started by: SonicAD on August 05, 2009, 12:44:55 pm

Title: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicAD on August 05, 2009, 12:44:55 pm
Please explain how you got the following stats:

http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_3d_blast/rings/diamond_dust_1
http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_3d_blast/rings/diamond_dust_2

A .giz recording would be preferred, but a detailed explanation of your route would suffice.

EDIT: Appears he typoed and the reason he gave when resubmitting passes muster, so this thread will be closed.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicAD on August 25, 2009, 12:25:33 am
Proof of your stats for all missions in the following levels in SA2B is requested:

Sky Rail
Sand Ocean
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Zeupar on August 31, 2009, 10:17:31 am
Times category. Proof of your times is required because we think that a few of them are incorrect. It doesn't matter if they are top stats or blue stats.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicAD on September 09, 2009, 08:03:17 pm
You are banned from submissions until you provide proof of the following stats, these times only; any other time, better or worse, does not count as proof:

Sonic Advance:
Neo Green Hill 1 - Amy 0:56:32
Neo Green Hill 2 - Amy 1:36:49
Secret Base 1 - Amy 1:25:72
Casino Paradise 1 - Amy 1:30:45   
Angel Island 1 - Amy 3:18:41
Ice Mountain 1 - Amy 1:59:91
Ice Mountain 2 - Amy 3:15:71
Egg Rocket 1 - Knuckles 6:03:53
X-Zone - Amy 1:53:44
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicAD on September 11, 2009, 06:50:21 pm
Your list of Sonic Adventure 2 times did not prove satisfactory and, combined with the myriad of other stats that have set off the BS detector in recent months, your stats have been removed.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: quantumcrash23 on September 12, 2009, 06:31:45 pm
*sighs*  poor guy.
Title: SonicAD being Massivley Unfair, Unjust, & Butthurt
Post by: SonicMonarchSSBB on September 12, 2009, 07:06:38 pm
yo you rly think that this guy did anything wrong SonicAD
listen he posted up stats that were perfectly legit and made a mistake
with one of his posts

its not his fault for an accident and us as human beings we make mistakes like
this and sure ill admit that he messed up but i have reason to believe that SonicAD
has a grudge for this guy

Why because in the part of this post where he asks for a reason
of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle > Missions > Times > Level: Sky Rail & Sand Ocean
of stats being posted for the stages he never asked what category....

Plus this guy was nice enough to waste his time posting up the stats for not just
1 time record but for all of them.  Wouldn't you think SonicAD would have a change
of heart seeing as how he worked for these

Also he randomly out of nowhere bung up Sonic Advance which he had the vids for but you never let him post therefore banning him for no reason

SonicAD you have removed a good player in TSC and you are massively butthurt seeing
as how you deny the fact that he posted up proof for almost all of the records


Also i have word that you ban people  here for supporting this guy
ill say he has well right not agreeing with you since you abuse your right as
an Administrator. Oh and try banning me even though i have 1 stat that has been
proved for and also i am just explaining an opinion not insulting you.

Plus may i add that i know about the incident with a user who posted up
and spammed the records here since he hated the site. Now This guy also backed up the site by pwning this user. I believe you know him since it happened a couple weeks
ago during summer break. He defended the site and you back stabbed him for no reason..

so go ahead ban me SonicAD but know the first chance you get ill post youtube and other international sites proof of all of ur "bring cheaters to justice" remarks and ill also let the
other administrators know about what your doing

so in the end who will win SonicAD
stop abusing your rights and let this guy back. He has done nothing wrong
and he had posted up legit stats and btw he never "BS" you
so stop saying that he has. Let Fans of Sonic Enjoy the game not
cry moan over a mistake.

SO TRY ME O' "Mighty" SonicAD!

Note you remind me of Officer Trudge From "Yu-Gi-Oh! 5d's"
an unjustified, act abusing fiend


good day....
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Parax on September 12, 2009, 07:09:23 pm
Proof of your stats for all missions in the following levels in SA2B is requested:

Sky Rail
Sand Ocean

additionally people don't get banned for no reason here. if hypersonic can prove that we are wrong and his stats are legit after all then he will be let back on. until then he's banned.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Talon on September 12, 2009, 07:15:21 pm
from the amount of people BSing in the past few months, i wouldn't blame him. Besides, he's just looking out for the site anyway
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Thorn on September 12, 2009, 07:18:08 pm
He was asked to prove that he achieved certain times. He proceeded to post videos of runs that were better than or close to the times in question.

Q: What does it mean when you can easily prove a time by taking a stillshot of the saved record, but you instead go through the trouble to video a brand new run?
A: It means that you were capable of the run, but didn't quite get it before you posted the stat, so you "embellished" it. We don't tolerate that, and that is why we ask for exact times. Yet, nobody we ban seems to be able to simply take a picture of the screen, despite how every other household has a digital camera nowadays... hm....
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Selphos on September 12, 2009, 07:18:43 pm
inb4 wall of text explaining how SonicMonarch is wrong and it being ignored
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicAD on September 12, 2009, 07:25:03 pm
HyperSonic was not banned for the stats he listed there, he was banned because he sent a list of stats that didn't match up with his memory card for SA2, and confirmed that the rest were accurate. However there were still stats he did not correct that were caught by our BS detector, and as such, he was banned. He had several other stats in other games that also set off the BS detector. Naturally I cannot explain how it works as it would allow cheaters to get around it, but it IS solid and I am not the only one who knows how it works. One stat is an anomaly, 15 is a pattern.

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Also i have word that you ban people  here for supporting this guy
ill say he has well right not agreeing with you since you abuse your right as
an Administrator. Oh and try banning me even though i have 1 stat that has been
proved for and also i am just explaining an opinion not insulting you.

Haha no, I've only been admin here for 2 months, and I've had time to ban all of 2 users. Granted, one of those has signed up about 20 times now, and the other 1 is probably him too.  

Plus, considering you're calling me "Butthurt," your claim that you're not insulting me is laughable.

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SonicAD you have removed a good player in TSC and you are massively butthurt seeing
as how you deny the fact that he posted up proof for almost all of the records

And you're denying that there might be an actual reason for us to remove his records. I wouldn't do it if I weren't sure there was BS. Has he posted lots of times with proof? Sure, but when you're posting impossible stats over and over, that doesn't matter as much.  I'll do what's right for the site, every time.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicMonarchSSBB on September 12, 2009, 07:31:35 pm
PWNED!
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Thorn on September 12, 2009, 07:32:41 pm
Doesn't matter if they're not impossible. If they're incorrect, as you claim some may be, then you're lying. You've made vids before, so you could easily just vid the results screen for every questioned stat in, like, five minutes.

That's your ticket out. Your *only* ticket out, by the way... exact times or nothing.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Thorn on September 12, 2009, 07:45:30 pm
All stats in a game with saved stats, of course.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Parax on September 12, 2009, 07:45:51 pm
like AD said, you've been found to have false stats in multiple games.

you submit stats you got here, not stats you can get.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicMonarchSSBB on September 12, 2009, 08:14:42 pm
Go ahead and delete me as well
i dont need to prove my gaming
on a site that wont accept it

Also by me voicing an opinion
alot of ppl are now against me
so crap it. ill stay on youtube
where my commentaries and Lets plays
reside
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Parax on September 12, 2009, 08:18:06 pm
Go ahead and delete me as well
i dont need to prove my gaming
on a site that wont accept it

nobody said you're getting banned <_<
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Thorn on September 12, 2009, 08:22:54 pm
Somebody's not accepting you? Did you lie too? You poor thing.

The front page says that we accept 746 people that don't lie. It's a shame that not BSing is so tough for so many people. :(
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicAD on September 12, 2009, 08:26:01 pm
I would note that the stats could be restored if I were convinced you were legit. It wouldn't be simple, but if I were proven wrong I would do everything I could to rectify it. I don't think that's the case, but if I'm actually wrong I would have no problem with fixing things.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicAD on September 12, 2009, 08:36:40 pm
I got the stats BEFORE I made the videos, and BEFORE I even posted them, but I went through the trouble of doing them again, and just because I made better times does NOT mean I embellished them. They were generally old stats.

Whether I get unbanned or not, finding all my stats again will take hours or days to do, so, I'd rather just move on. I was happy to have some great times here, I am saddened it ended this way.

Impossible? I think not. All my stats, whether incorrect or not, doesn't mean they are impossible. I could prove every one of those deemed 'impossible' stats. But since you deleted them, that doesn't matter now, does it?

Also I'm not saying the stats that you corrected were the problem (not that they looked great, but I could reasonably see why that would happen), I'm saying that there were stats that you didn't correct that were a problem.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicMonarchSSBB on September 12, 2009, 08:39:12 pm
i just don't wanna be on the site anymore
its just that ppl are complaining about this crap and by me actually talkin about dis as
well its turning me into a hypocrite

and this is a leader board site am i right
i just wanna post stats without this one day happening to me
and it seems that by stating one point or opinion about an event i see
about something this becomes a "hot topic"

in the end im all for competing with some great players
but not if half the time i feel the site or the users are untrustworthy
plus to tell the truth i do know hypersonic7701
i just feel that this is a big mistake for someone who spent his
summer doin dis

and sure im gonna be known for a white knight but i just feel
unjust signals in the air

and btw i dont "BS" any1 i just hate it when ppl Bull**** me or
ppl i know
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Parax on September 12, 2009, 08:45:55 pm
if you don't submit false stats you have nothing to worry about. I'm a legit player and I've never been called out.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: quantumcrash23 on September 12, 2009, 08:46:47 pm
Need I repeat myself *sighs*
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicMonarchSSBB on September 12, 2009, 08:50:39 pm
but what if i receive a message or reply
stating i have false stats when i clearly do like
in dis case

im just askin you guys to delete me since ur site has no option
to do so
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: DBG on September 12, 2009, 09:49:53 pm
but what if i receive a message or reply
stating i have false stats when i clearly do like
in dis case

im just askin you guys to delete me since ur site has no option
to do so

All you have to do is prove or correct them. It can't really be that hard (unless the stage is difficult... or something).
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Brian on September 12, 2009, 11:59:25 pm
and this is a leader board site am i right
i just wanna post stats without this one day happening to me
and it seems that by stating one point or opinion about an event i see
about something this becomes a "hot topic"
Hahahaha, I`m a legit player, and got called out in my first 2 months here, and my topic became a "very hot topic", I just proved my stat and BAM! Problem solved :D, he haven`t done this.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Alondite on September 13, 2009, 12:09:01 am
if you don't submit false stats you have nothing to worry about. I'm a legit player and I've never been called out.

I'm calling you out! >:O!






>_>
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Selphos on September 15, 2009, 09:33:15 pm
We've already said it several times. Prove the times that were called into question, those times only and not better/worse ones, and TSC *might* give you a second chance.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: quantumcrash23 on September 16, 2009, 10:09:21 pm
Hyper's videos helped me get all the Chaos Emeralds in Sonic Heroes.  I thank him for that^^  I hope you are ok. :Grin
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: GerbilSoft on September 17, 2009, 04:05:58 pm
I got the blue screen that made me lose half of the memory on the computer around 12pm-ish that day. I needed to perform a system restore to try to 'start over', as it may.
A blue screen causing you to "lose half the memory"? Now I'm all for bashing Windows, but this doesn't make sense. How would a blue screen cause half of your system's RAM to stop working?
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: GerbilSoft on September 17, 2009, 07:28:54 pm
Honestly, I don't really know, but that's what the blue screen said, I was puzzled when I barely read it before it went away...
Did you mean: "Beginning physical memory dump: 50% completed..."?
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: GerbilSoft on September 17, 2009, 07:44:02 pm
No, that wasn't it...and I don't remember the exact wording of it either, but I know that it said something like "half of your memory has been deleted or gone", or...something like that. And oddly enough, what you mentioned wasn't there at all (there was no dump, just the mesage that half of the memory was gone...), it basically gave me two to five seconds and just shut off. Which is why I performed a system restore and got better virus protection. Nothing has happened since...yet.
Making up bullshit isn't going to help your case any. There is no message even remotely close to "half of your memory has been deleted or gone" in Windows.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: DBG on September 18, 2009, 07:50:38 pm
I'm sure that if any other stats are in question, they would already have been mentioned.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: douglas on September 19, 2009, 04:41:13 am
I'm sure that if any other stats are in question, they would already have been mentioned.

HyperSonic was not banned for the stats he listed there, he was banned because he sent a list of stats that didn't match up with his memory card for SA2, and confirmed that the rest were accurate. However there were still stats he did not correct that were caught by our BS detector, and as such, he was banned. He had several other stats in other games that also set off the BS detector. Naturally I cannot explain how it works as it would allow cheaters to get around it, but it IS solid and I am not the only one who knows how it works. One stat is an anomaly, 15 is a pattern.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: douglas on September 19, 2009, 03:28:31 pm
Naturally I cannot explain how it works as it would allow cheaters to get around it, but it IS solid and I am not the only one who knows how it works
Come on, this isn't hard.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicAD on September 19, 2009, 03:33:35 pm
Naturally I cannot explain how it works as it would allow cheaters to get around it, but it IS solid and I am not the only one who knows how it works
Come on, this isn't hard.

Well yeah, but people are stupid and I'm quite happy to not let them figure it out >_>
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Zeupar on September 19, 2009, 04:01:21 pm
Naturally I cannot explain how it works as it would allow cheaters to get around it, but it IS solid and I am not the only one who knows how it works
Come on, this isn't hard.

Well yeah, but people are stupid and I'm quite happy to not let them figure it out >_>

Douglas was speaking to HyperSonic... <_<
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: quantumcrash23 on September 20, 2009, 11:27:44 am
This topic has become nothing but garbage.  I trust Hyper.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Firstkirbyever on September 20, 2009, 11:39:31 am
This topic has become nothing but garbage.  I trust Hyper.

this topic isn't garbage it's just funny.
*gets Popcorn and watches the show*
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: douglas on September 20, 2009, 03:02:58 pm
I HAVE NO SENSE OF TACT
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Parax on September 20, 2009, 07:47:11 pm
This topic has become nothing but garbage.  I trust Hyper.

Why? He's been called out and asked to prove some stats and he can't prove ANY of them under very suspicious circumstances.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicMonarchSSBB on September 20, 2009, 07:47:54 pm
Ive been convinced
this sites bullshit
by me fucking cursing
Ban me

two fucking weeks and you cant let shit go wow major fail

o and btw
this sites been trolled >:D

You guys take the internets too srsly
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: quantumcrash23 on September 20, 2009, 09:30:06 pm
Ive been convinced
this sites bullshit
by me fucking cursing
Ban me

two fucking weeks and you cant let shit go wow major fail

o and btw
this sites been trolled >:D

You guys take the internets too srsly

Anonymous run this site.  There were many good people that were trolled in the chat and in forums just for their opinions.  Like I always say:  "Why So Serious?"
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicAD on August 10, 2010, 03:39:11 pm
I lied about those stats

Case closed. Ban upheld.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Parax on August 10, 2010, 03:44:11 pm
May this site burn in hell for banning cheaters. Damn you all!!!

I actually find it pretty hilarious that you come here, you lie about your stats, then you get pissy with us for catching you.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Parax on August 10, 2010, 03:56:59 pm
noo... we banned you for lying about your stats.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Parax on August 10, 2010, 04:01:41 pm
You clearly have a major issue with the site in several aspects then, and a lot of people in the community have a major issue with a number of things you've posted here. So why are you still here?
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Magnezone on August 10, 2010, 05:11:43 pm
Your logic.

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I am still here because I thought maybe I had a chance to get unbanned if I came clean. But I guess that didn't work.
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I'm not banned off the forum yet, so that means I can still be here.

So basically your reason for being here is that you had a reason to be here that you don't have anymore, so now you're saying you have no reason to have no reason to be here?

Also considering your signature of "The world's greatest dramatic ban off TSC" and having been around long enough to know how utterly self-proclaimed of a statement that is, in addition to all the posts in this thread you made saying "I'm leaving in a few days, so you better give me a reason to stay," I'd be more inclined to say that you get the record for TSC's most groan-inducing, drawn-out ban. And by the way, the other part of your signature isn't suggestive of all the alternate accounts you'll make in the future at all. Just saying.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Magnezone on August 10, 2010, 05:36:00 pm
Actually, the point I was making, which you apparently need spelled out for you, is that you're basically saying you don't have a reason to be here and haven't for the past year, therefore I can only assume that you're just here at this point to try to go "durrr look at me" and noob the place up some more. None of this "i'm clearing my name here!!!" stuff either. If you really cared that much, you'd realize that you're caring about it on a thread on the internet in which about 100 people in your lifetime will ever read, maybe more if people keep posting in it. Your "greater than thou" attitude in your posts aren't helping your case if you cared about posting stats again at all either. So why are you still here? After saying you're leaving a million times?

My only conclusion is that you pretty much are THAT lame. Just a different kind of THAT lame.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Magnezone on August 10, 2010, 06:09:43 pm
So, in short, I'm right?

And I find it very, very amusing and ironic that you're bringing those rules up and the fact that this thread caused them. It's not like you couldn't have possibly told all your friends that

Quote from: Quote from: HyperSonic7701 on July 25, 2010, 03:55:42 PM
I lied about those stats

which was the conclusion that was reached in the first place, and it would have saved a thread and an apparently eternal headache.  But instead here you are, probably the person that brought those dudes to the forum anyway to troll us, and you're flaunting around a set of rules to me saying that my comments are offensive to you, when your strategy to redeem yourself here is to be offensive to us? Is that your form of justice?

I think the only justice you deserve is to be forum banned.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Strong Bad on August 10, 2010, 06:35:42 pm
yo dude, I ain't a moderator/Admin or anything, but it doesn't matter if you prove some of your stats. you specifically stated "I lied about those stats." 1 case of bullshit is grounds for a ban. in some cases it can be forgiven but eh, seems to me like you've been kind of annoying to most of the mods/admins, and your attitude is completely unwarranted granted the fact that you had BS stats.
in fact, this is the internet. you can get banned for doing anything.
welcome!
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Ring Rush on August 10, 2010, 06:42:41 pm
You will never get unbanned, no matter how long you wait. TSC likes to pride itself on integrity, and we've learned from past mistakes that unbanning cheaters doesn't stop them from cheating. This may not be the case with you, you may play completely legitimately from now on. Unfortunately, we'd rather not take the chances. Is it fair to you? No. Is it fair to everyone else who wants to compete against legitimate times? Yes. In conclusion, sucks to be you, deal with it, and find another place to do speedruns. By lieing in the past, you have expelled yourself from this community.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Strong Bad on August 10, 2010, 07:08:18 pm
proving yourself to plus/minus one hundredth of a second doesn't help, bro. like, the fact that you have the skill to and have obtained a time to plus/minus one hundredth of a second of a time you submitted doesn't help your case. the fact of the matter is that you BS'd in the first place with CENSORED.
TSC's policy is not up to you to decide. yeah, it sucks that because you BS'd you get bannzd forever, but sucks to be you, you shouldn't have BS'd in the first place. hell, if TSC's administration wanted to, they could ban a person for having more than one 23rd place stat, for no fucking reason other than that. not really much you can do about it. TSC's system has worked for a long time and has proven to be fair to all legitimate competitors. people who BS lose these privileges the second they BS.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Luxray on August 10, 2010, 07:11:44 pm
Look, I want to end this as much as you do, but I at least need closure. I just want to talk with an admin about this. SonicAD, I think you made a rush to judgement by simply quoting what I said and leaving it at that. That fails to give me closure. If I'm going to be banned (by the way, nobody said permanently), I want to know why and where (specifically). If I am going to be unbanned, I want this thread closed. But until this thread is at least locked, it is still open for speculation.

^This isn't like school though. This is TSC, and we have our own rules and procedures.

And let me try to make this clear and crystal for you, so we can end all this.

-You were banned for posting some false stats, in which you did not prove them properly. Instead of taking a screenshot, you told a false story (obviously false mind you) which justified the ban.
-You will be banned for as long as the admins see fit (may be one day, may be forever, only the admins will know when they feel you should be unbanned).
-You are free to stay here and contribute to the site in any was possible, or to the community. In contrast, you are also free to leave.
-You are still subject to being banned from the forums if you break any of the forum rules, as am I and anyone else that posts here. Don't risk it if you want to stay on the site, because then you have 0 chance of coming back to the site.

If there is anything else you would like to know, just ask.

Quote

If that's true, there's DEFINITELY something wrong with that

Actually, all forum boards are subject to their own moderation. Nothing wrong with it at all. Just like how countries have different rules and procedures on a certain act.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Strong Bad on August 10, 2010, 07:14:47 pm
If that's true, there's DEFINITELY something wrong with that.
The administration pay for the hosting of this site, coded this site, and run the site and keep it going. They can do whatever the fuck they want.
Now, if they went around banning people for having two or more 23rd place stats, the activity of this place would likely drop pretty damn fast. Under TSC's current rules, competition is fair, at a high level, and active. Some rules can be contested, but TSC's policy on cheaters and BSers is one of its strongest points and why its competition has such a high level of integrity and respect.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Strong Bad on August 10, 2010, 07:19:17 pm
I lied about those stats

Case closed. Ban upheld.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Strong Bad on August 10, 2010, 07:24:00 pm
lol no, he saw that you lied about at least 1 stat.
which btw is grounds for permaban.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Magnezone on August 10, 2010, 08:35:44 pm
Alright, since you're so impressively vigilant, I'll tell you some history about the site and bannings that took place that shaped the system that I know about.

There's been very few people that have been unbanned, but there have been some. One was actually bertin, who ended up being a success story. From what I understand, the method in which he redeemed himself to this site was basically:

1. Competing at Cyberscore for a long time, proving his honesty in his hundreds of submissions
2. Working with Rolken (what the workings that happened there are unknown to me)
3. Being a pretty cool guy in the end, even in light of such annoyances to him such as the infamous BERTIN THE BEAR.

Then there was smizzla. Nobody really saw that one coming. It was a total shock to a lot of people to see one of the key proponents in the smizzla/DsS #1 sitewide rivalry banned, and in the end, it made Da1 such a menace to everything on the site. As for smizzla, I think how it ended up going is that he made an alternate account and submitted a bunch of fair statistics, was left alone for a bit even though everyone found out he was smizzla again, but eventually he found the pressure of being #1 again being too great to resist or something like that, and started going back to his old ways, or I think he might have voluntarily had himself banned that time because he didn't want to go that route again? So now what he does is just submit .giz files to the .giz topic, most of which would be records on the site, and that appears to be the balance he's achieved in order to be content with competition on this site. In retrospect though, his case might be one of the factors that prevents most people from every getting a second chance on this site nowadays. There were a couple other cases of people that came back to the site after being banned, but I don't think there's been any since around the time this happened.

So what does that mean for you? Basically, the real route to get back into competition on this site is to take your vigilance and really prove that you're consistently honest elsewhere. Not by just saying "im honest ok" every day or something like that. You need to perform the act, whether it be on Cyberscore or someplace else. That's the only way I've seen someone get unbanned here. Even beyond that, I would note that playing Sonic games is more worthwhile than the rest of whatever results in this thread. Simply enjoying the gameplay unfold is something that all the people that were unbanned have expressed one way or another. And not with words in a post, either.

By the way, the "The world's greatest dramatic ban off TSC" is sonicandamy. Hands down. Just read that dude's posts or comments on the site and you'll understand.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Thorn on August 10, 2010, 11:34:02 pm
HyperSonic7701 was ignored by me because the most I would have said is "No" and left it at that. The prominent examples of unbanning weren't even under the site's current administration, so you can't even assume we have the same opinions on those unbannings. I would have kept ignoring this, but I see it's spiraling out of control pretty rapidly.

My reason for "No" is that after we tried to call you on your lie, you compounded the lie with a memory card excuse before coming back after being banned and saying "yeah I lied". Your fanclub of people saying "well i don't wanna be on a site that bans like this" didn't exactly help matters either, although I don't even remember at this point if they had any connection to you. Many people that lied and aren't currently banned came out and admitted the lie before thirty posts of pointless drivel were made, e.g. RPGnutter. I don't have sympathy on people that make our lives difficult for no reason, and for you to have done that to us but to expect us to take the time to respond to you is either really hypocritical or just plain stupid.

I briefly considered locking this because the verdict looks like it's staying, but as long as it doesn't drop into dumbassery and name-calling, I'll let another admin decide when its time is up.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Parax on August 11, 2010, 12:02:47 am
HyperSonic, in the end, if you want to compete here, you don't lie. You lied, and you're gone. It's no one's fault but your own so fucking deal with it and stop blaming the admins for something YOU did. Because see, we actually care about the charts here being legitimate, and that takes priority over being nice to people who've tried to screw us over.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Zeupar on August 11, 2010, 09:45:36 am
Sorry, but I fail to realize how the admins simply ignore me and you people don't.

I ignored you because I had nothing to add about this matter. You posted false statistics and we, as administrators, have to do everything in our power to preserve the legitimacy of the rankings.

As for smizzla, I think how it ended up going is that he made an alternate account and submitted a bunch of fair statistics, was left alone for a bit even though everyone found out he was smizzla again, but eventually he found the pressure of being #1 again being too great to resist or something like that, and started going back to his old ways, or I think he might have voluntarily had himself banned that time because he didn't want to go that route again?

Those guesses are all incorrect. :P I discovered that werster was smizzla and told him to confess it in the forums.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Firstkirbyever on August 11, 2010, 10:47:33 am
Words
tl;dr. If you keep this up you might get a forum ban (though this isn't up to me.) we've been discussing this for about 15 times or more, and making a quote of your last post isn't helping. Mistake is a mistake.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: DsSaster on August 11, 2010, 11:28:05 am
I read your post HyperSonic7701, specifically the very long portion of it.  From the looks of it you truly enjoy Sonic gaming, and competition is that something extra to give the games some more replay value.  However, you submitted invalid stats and to this day you are still facing the consequences of your actions.  You have stated many times that you will change, or that you have changed.  You have uploaded many, many videos as well as all of the proofs you supplied in an earlier post to show that you are trying to make things right.  You have stated that you are willing to do ANYTHING for a second chance to compete on this site.  However, the option of competing at another site to further prove your legitimacy was turned down.

Now, I'm not saying that you haven't changed, nor am I saying that you have.  You claim your reason for not competing at another site is that you don't want to start over if you are eventually unbanned here.  By competing on another site, you'll already have your list of submissions (provided you are competing in Sonic games) ready to be transferred over manually if one day you are unbanned.  TSC is not the only competition site I am a part of, though it is the main competition site I am a part of.  Lets focus on the present, you're currently banned here (via submissions) and things aren't looking like they are going to change right now.  My advice to you is to relax first of all, don't get too worked up over this.  After you've done that, I recommend you do the following things to help your chances of changing the admins minds about unbanning you...

- Continue to be a part of the forums, constructively and not destructively.  Maybe even join the chatroom, stay in touch and communicate with the people at TSC.

- Continue to make videos, they can only help you, not hurt you.

- Join another competition site, there's no reason why that should be a problem.  Even if you don't want to join another site, there's always the option of keeping track of your stats manually until maybe one day you are unbanned.

To wrap this up, understand that the submission of illegitimate stats is a serious offense on this site (although by this point I'm sure you know that).  Take heed of my advice, and maybe one day you will be unbanned and given a second chance.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: DsSaster on August 11, 2010, 11:58:37 am
You know, I always looked up to you, DarkspinesSonic. I have seen some of your videos, you are definitely one of the the best in the business, no doubt in my mind. Your advice does help me in some way, perhaps gives me hope. Thank you for taking the time to post.

Thanks, and no problem.

What would you recommend in terms of other competition sites? At least I should explore the option before turning it down, I guess. Mainly because of this:

I would recommend checking out Cyberscore.  It is a relatively well known competition site with a fair amount of Sonic games, as well as a ton of other non-Sonic games.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicAD on September 27, 2011, 05:10:25 pm
Works for me. Well done~
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Parax on September 27, 2011, 05:14:24 pm
Your post definitely gives me the vibe that you've matured quite a bit since you were last posting here, so congrats on being one of the few people to put together a convincing argument for being unbanned. Good luck competing, and hope you stay legit.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SirJaden on September 28, 2011, 10:09:28 am
Woah, that's simply amazing! well done I say and welcome back XD
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Werey on September 28, 2011, 10:35:08 am
Welcome back, My brother!
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: SonicAD on October 10, 2011, 12:57:56 am
Proof requested of the following SA2B times:

Prison Lane 3
Green Forest 2
Hidden Base 5
Iron Gate 1
Egg Quarters 3
Sky Rail 2
Cosmic Wall 1
Final Chase 1
Cannon's Core 5

EDIT: Oh hey I see the link in your sig now but the file for SA2B isn't working, otherwise I'd check that.

EDIT 2: This has been resolved in PM to my complete satisfaction.
Title: Re: ATTN: HyperSonic7701
Post by: Chackoman15379 on October 29, 2013, 06:26:18 pm
you guys need to learn to trust
i mean some people u will have doubts but this guy it makes me sick to see this suspicion in the beginning