The Sonic Center
Sonic Central => Leaderboard Disputes => Topic started by: Magnezone on June 18, 2009, 07:50:16 am
-
Barring the rate at which you are submitting highly skilled statistics to the site from discussion, I find this stat (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/andy120195/sonic_&_knuckles/rings/mushroom_hill_2/knuckles) pretty interesting because, to my knowledge, nobody has publicly made available a .giz describing the route. Please describe how you got this stat.
-
OK. I only describe the second route of Knuckles because Sonic's route should be easy to get. I got every ring of these 6-ring-bunches with getting the big ring before , then I turned into Hyper Knuckles and got into the bonus stage without getting a ring there. Then I turned back and got the second big ring, because you can jump far enough to get the spring. It could have been many more rings if I wouldn't be so slow. I finished this zone in 9:59, so I could have submitted 99900 more points, but this isn't allowed I think... And I wondered why you didn't get all rings.
And BTW, here's why I submitted so quick. There were many, many stats I got long ago so I only had to find the paper where I wrote down those stats.
-
you also can't turn into super/hyper knuckles.
-
Actually. I don't mean to derail/hijack the topic, but i would like some strategy explanation of your sonic 3d blast scores. I would like it if andy
AND NO-ONE ELSE ANSWER this.
-
Yeah so that strategy is pretty much completely wrong. I think your knowledge of the rules speaks for itself in more ways than just "I don't know them." And your other excuse sounds like if a teacher asked you for your homework and you said "My dog ate it."
-
OK. I only describe the second route of Knuckles because Sonic's route should be easy to get. I got every ring of these 6-ring-bunches with getting the big ring before , then I turned into Hyper Knuckles and got into the bonus stage without getting a ring there. Then I turned back and got the second big ring, because you can jump far enough to get the spring. It could have been many more rings if I wouldn't be so slow. I finished this zone in 9:59, so I could have submitted 99900 more points, but this isn't allowed I think... And I wondered why you didn't get all rings.
And BTW, here's why I submitted so quick. There were many, many stats I got long ago so I only had to find the paper where I wrote down those stats.
If you're not sure of the rules, read them. And if you had, you would've caught this:
Sonic & Knuckles
Super and Hyper forms are not allowed, except in The Doomsday Zone.
Rings Divisions
You may not enter a Bonus Stage in the middle of a level.
Score Divisions
You must complete levels in 9:58 or less.
-
Actually. I don't mean to derail/hijack the topic, but i would like some strategy explanation of your sonic 3d blast scores. I would like it if andy
AND NO-ONE ELSE ANSWER this.
I got every ring and destroyed every robot as fast as I could do it.
And... excuse me for disobeying the rules. I thought you could go into a Bonus Stage as long as you don't get a ring.
But... for speedruns, you can get a Bonus Stage?
-
OK. I only describe the second route of Knuckles because Sonic's route should be easy to get. I got every ring of these 6-ring-bunches with getting the big ring before , then I turned into Hyper Knuckles and got into the bonus stage without getting a ring there. Then I turned back and got the second big ring, because you can jump far enough to get the spring. It could have been many more rings if I wouldn't be so slow. I finished this zone in 9:59, so I could have submitted 99900 more points, but this isn't allowed I think... And I wondered why you didn't get all rings.
And BTW, here's why I submitted so quick. There were many, many stats I got long ago so I only had to find the paper where I wrote down those stats.
Sonic & Knuckles
Super and Hyper forms are not allowed, except in The Doomsday Zone.
Rings Divisions
You may not enter a Bonus Stage in the middle of a level.
I think that pretty much ends this. Your record will be deleted. Please refrain from submitting until you have went to this link and read the rules. http://www.soniccenter.org/submit/rules
-
I don't think so. This calls into question the legitimacy of all of his other records (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/andy120195/records) especially due to the fact that he doesn't understand the rules. Even stats like this one (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_&_knuckles/rings/sandopolis_1/knuckles) are suspicious to me because it just totally reminds me of that time when Aitamen submitted a full sheet of records that tied the previous record to S3 and S&K, even though half the records at the time could end up being improved by quite a large margin.
-
Thank you SkyLights! With your help, I can break the WR and get 646 rings in the next days! I maybe will make a guide.
And BTW, this is the only stage where I used Hyper Knux.
-
I don't think so. This calls into question the legitimacy of all of his other records (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/andy120195/records) especially due to the fact that he doesn't understand the rules. Even stats like this one (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_&_knuckles/rings/sandopolis_1/knuckles) are suspicious to me because it just totally reminds me of that time when Aitamen submitted a full sheet of records that tied the previous record to S3 and S&K, even though half the records at the time could end up being improved by quite a large margin.
One that i don't get is he has SB3 and he doesn't have SL2.
-
he does have sl2 actually, but having the SB3 record still makes me wonder becuase I have trouble believing ANYONE can do that.
-
i ment SL3 then >_>
-
Actually. I don't mean to derail/hijack the topic, but i would like some strategy explanation of your sonic 3d blast scores.
I got every ring and destroyed every robot as fast as I could do it.
Which version of the game did you use to get your Sonic 3D Blast statistics?
Please, do not submit new statistics until this issue is resolved.
-
Actually. I don't mean to derail/hijack the topic, but i would like some strategy explanation of your sonic 3d blast scores.
I got every ring and destroyed every robot as fast as I could do it.
Which version of the game did you use to get your Sonic 3D Blast statistics?
Please, do not submit new statistics until this issue is resolved.
I wouldn't submit until I didn't get 646 rings.
I used the Genesis version.
-
I wouldn't submit until I didn't get 646 rings.
So you won't submit until you don't get 646 rings?/me stabbed by Quartz
-
So NOW I could submit, because I got 646 rings...
Maybe I will make a video of this soon.
-
So NOW I could submit, because I got 646 rings...
Maybe I will make a video of this soon.
Excuse me... but...
Please, do not submit new statistics until this issue is resolved.
Is there some part of this you don't understand?
-
So NOW I could submit, because I got 646 rings...
Maybe I will make a video of this soon.
Videos always help. You are banned until you come up with video proof of at least one of your following records:
- 163 rings on Scrap Brain 3
- 54,000 points on Diamond Dust 1
- 57,800 points on Gene Gadget 1
If you want to make a video of you getting 646 rings on Mushroom Hill 2 as Knuckles following TSC's rules, that could help your case as well.
If you don't provide proof soon, we will suspend all your statistics and you will be banned permanently.
-
So NOW I could submit, because I got 646 rings...
Maybe I will make a video of this soon.
Excuse me... but...
Please, do not submit new statistics until this issue is resolved.
Is there some part of this you don't understand?
I know, that's the reason why I didn't submit yet. Now I even have the video, but I go to vacances for 2 weeks. Please don't ban me in the next 2 weeks.
-
Oh no... you already have banned me?
How can I post the video then?
-
Oh no... you already have banned me?
How can I post the video then?
You can upload to youtube, rapidshare or any other place and paste the link here.
-
My video has 12 minutes, I can't upload it on youtube!
-
www.megaupload.com
That should help.
-
www.megaupload.com
That should help.
And how do I use it?
I only have 50 mins...
-
click the button that says browse, find and select the file.
put something in the field below and click send. after which wait for it to upload and then it will give you a link. paste it here when you get it.
-
I can't even log in! That's the problem!
-
...you don't need to log in. stop being a noob and upload it.
-
It just doesn't work! I can do what I want. Can't I just send an email?
-
www.rapidshare.com
Okay if you can't do this then you are the stupidest person on the internet. All you do it click browse, select the video, then click upload. After which you wait until it has, then give us the link.
EDIT: FU werster
-
It's not that hard to use megaupload.com...
Go to www.megaupload.com, then Browse for the file, type in a random description below it, then hit Send. You'll then have a URL to copy and paste to give to anyone else (in this case, us) to download and watch it.
As for Youtube, you can split the movie into 2 parts using Movie Maker or another movie-editing program.
-
If your video is below 100MB, just use MediaFire.
http://www.mediafire.com (http://www.mediafire.com)
-
Hiding from posting a vid? Not cool. Just use Windows Movie Maker, almost all computers have it (at least the ones i been on)
-
If this doesn't work, I'll make a new video, splitted into 2 parts, and then you can see it on YouTube. But I am still not at home again, so you have to wait until next sunday.
-
But... I can tell you how I got 646 rings or do you want to wait one week?
-
What you can do is upload it to rapidshare. It is so easy. Either stop lying and fess up or stop stalling.
-
Okay i think you've had long enough. Post or be banned.
-
why don't he just split the video into 2 and post it on youtube
-
why don't he just split the video into 2 and post it on youtube
Because he doesn't have the video and is obviously bsing. Or maybe not. He may surprise us.
-
If I understood it right, this should do it:
http://rapidshare.com/files/255015384/S3_K_MH2_646_Ringe.avi.MP4.html
-
Downloading the video right now, that should be interesting stuff.
Luxray, you're a complete and utter FAIL, he wasn't at home, which probably means he didn't HAVE the video with him until he returned, and couldn't be arsed to do it again in a different location. Very understandable, and he is actually one day earlier than 2 weeks, meaning your "post or be banned" remark was ABSOLUTELY uncalled for. (OK, I'm also a FAIL for not checking the original "I need 2 weeks" request's date and instead relying on the "there's still 1 week remaining" post that's one day late)
-
not to sound rude or anything, but y didnt you split the video and post it on youtube
-
HE WASN'T AT HOME AND HAD NO ACCESS TO THE VIDEO. REREAD HIS POSTS AND SHUT UP ABOUT "SPLITTING" ALREADY.
He could've split them before going away, but for a non tech-savvy person splitting is more difficult than you'd think. So he simply didn't really have time to learn. Rapidshare was his host of choice, one of three suggested. Rapidshare and Mediafire were suggested very close to his "I left home" date, and possibly he didn't find out until he was out.
He tried using Megaupload before he left home... and apparently it glitched out on him, the same way Rapidshare glitches out on me. (For me on Rapidshare, the "Browse" button isn't there, even though I know where it SHOULD be due to screenshots. Read the manual, toyed with Java and Javascript options, different browsers, whatever, it just doesn't work)
Or maybe something else happened, whatever. He posted the video and we should just watch it and judge based on the video, OK? That will just make everyone happier.
-
sorry mate, still waiting for it to download, didn't mean no harm
-
Sorry, I actually didn't mean to write an angry post like this, it's just that I was angry on Luxray's uber-harsh "post it or be banned" remark and replied to him the same way, then when you asked a similar question, I was still angry and replied too angrily.
I didn't mean to do that, wait, at the time I did, but I was totally rage-blind, OK?
-
ok, has urs finished downloading yet, mines only half way
-
Sorry, I actually didn't mean to write an angry post like this, it's just that I was angry on Luxray's uber-harsh "post it or be banned" remark and replied to him the same way, then when you asked a similar question, I was still angry and replied too angrily.
I didn't mean to do that, wait, at the time I did, but I was totally rage-blind, OK?
What are you talking about? I'm glad that at least one person can wait until I'm back! And here I am-the link is at my last commet.
-
I just watched the whole thing and it seems pretty legit, he got all 646 rings
-
I mean that Night Knuckles (unlike Luxray) was very polite yet I replied to him in the way as I did to Luxray. The genreal message was right, but in an uncontrollable rageous fury, I replied to Night Knuckles in a WAY angrier and harsher tone than he deserved. I'm sorry.
Luxray OTOH fully deserves it for the "post it or be banned" remark. So consider the more "rageous" parts to be directed at Luxray, and everything will be fine. ;)
Also, this doesn't seem maxed, I can't put my finger on where it is exactly, as I haven't played this game for far too long, but andy120195, I think you missed a few rings somewhere. AND STILL PREVAILED, which means this strat is awesome.
P.S. Just found out your stat says "645", one ring less than your actual stat. Fix that, you know you want to. You know you want the better stat anyway, cause it's all legit. :D
-
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Night Knuckles is rite Luxray is the worst person ever im sorry i said that but im actually not sorry lol over and over CAPS LOCK YEA
Stop. Now.
P.S. Just found out your stat says "645", one ring less than your actual stat. Fix that, you know you want to. You know you want the better stat anyway, cause it's all legit. :D
So NOW I could submit, because I got 646 rings...
Maybe I will make a video of this soon.
Videos always help. You are banned until you come up with video proof of at least one of your following records:
- 163 rings on Scrap Brain 3
- 54,000 points on Diamond Dust 1
- 57,800 points on Gene Gadget 1
If you want to make a video of you getting 646 rings on Mushroom Hill 2 as Knuckles following TSC's rules, that could help your case as well.
If you don't provide proof soon, we will suspend all your statistics and you will be banned permanently.
-
yeah, stop being mean to Luxxy imo. :(
And while the 646 is indeed legit he still needs to provide the proof that Zeupar asked for. :/
-
thats true. Does he need to prove all of them or just one
-
>:/
... until you come up with video proof of at least one of your following records:
- 163 rings on Scrap Brain 3
- 54,000 points on Diamond Dust 1
- 57,800 points on Gene Gadget 1
-
:o sorry skylights, guess i cant read after all. LOL
-
Well he did MH2 at least.
-
1) Since he proved MH2, that stat, at least that stat, should be there. End of. It's the current WR and people use TSC as a source of Sonic WRs quite often, and 645 is no longer the WR. It could easily misinform others.
2) Magnezone, you're missing the point. In your defense, I was FAR more angry than neccessary. In my defense, Luxray was just as harsh to andy with even lesser reasons. I can understand why people take long to post a vid, and he even told it in advance, yet Luxray STILL decided to keep the harshness. In short -- he had no excuse to be that mean to andy. I also had no excuse to be that angry to Luxray.
And in my next message, I could say the exact same thing with ten times less "harsh" and you would have no reasons to exaggerate that.
3) You fail at reading. Reread Zeupar's posts, he says at the end "that could help your case as well". It clearly indicates that Zeupar is willing to at least consider an unban if the video appears (which it did).
In short: Magnezone, if you want to poke fun at me, poke it well. Then you'll succeed.
-
1) Since he proved MH2, that stat, at least that stat, should be there. End of. It's the current WR and people use TSC as a source of Sonic WRs quite often, and 645 is no longer the WR. It could easily misinform others.
There are people who have beaten the tsc records but are not members of the site, and therefore their times do not appear on the site. Likewise people like werster who have beaten like at least half the records but are still not trustworthy enough to be allowed on the charts. TSC is primarily for competition between its members; while this could come with high competition odds are TSC will not always have the best stats obtained ever.
-
words
STOP POSTING
YOU CONTINUE TO LOOK LIKE A MORON
-
3) You fail at reading. Reread Zeupar's posts, he says at the end "that could help your case as well". It clearly indicates that Zeupar is willing to at least consider an unban if the video appears (which it did).
It is you who has to read my post again. We are still waiting for the required proof.
By the way, are you related to andy120195 somehow?
-
Zeupar, no, I'm not related to andy. In fact I don't even have a clue who he/she is.
Also... I realise you're still waiting for THAT proof, but the MH2 vid is right here, and you yourself explicitly said "could help your case as well". Right now you seem to imply that it will not change anything. So, which one is true? Can't be both, cause they contradict each other. Please explain.
-
I will not play your game.
All I have to say is that you are not helping andy120195's case with your behaviour. You and Cruizer should read this post (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=3282.msg33153#msg33153) carefully.
-
By the way, are you related to andy120195 somehow?
Let me guess, they have the same IP. <_<
-
I will not play your game.
All I have to say is that you are not helping andy120195's case with your behaviour. You and Cruizer should read this post (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=3282.msg33153#msg33153) carefully.
Er...what did i do wrong this time?
-
you didn't do anything luxray. Getting back on topic, he needs to provide proof of one of the times, lets see if he does
-
Now I don't think my WR is a real WR anymore because everyone knows how to get it :(
Well, at least I did what I wanted to do.
-
you didn't do anything luxray. Getting back on topic, he needs to provide proof of one of the times, lets see if he does
<edited> okay parax corrected me. sorry about the outburst.
Now I don't think my WR is a real WR anymore because everyone knows how to get it :(
Well, at least I did what I wanted to do.
Andy please post one of the following:
- 163 rings on Scrap Brain 3
- 54,000 points on Diamond Dust 1
- 57,800 points on Gene Gadget 1
-
That means I have a real problem because I lost my Sonic Mega Collection.
I think I'm banned forever :(
-
http://gens.consolemul.com/download/gens-win32-bin-2.14.zip
that is a genesis emulator. use that to acheive them.
-
sorry luxray, didnt mean to get on your bad side
-
sorry luxray, didnt mean to get on your bad side
keep on topic. if you want to talk about this PM me.
Andy here are some roms:
Sonic 1 - http://www.angelfire.com/games6/horsefacekilla/Sonic_1.zip
Sonic 3D Blast - http://www.angelfire.com/games6/horsefacekilla/Sonic_3D_Blast.zip
-
http://gens.consolemul.com/download/gens-win32-bin-2.14.zip
that is a genesis emulator. use that to acheive them.
...i would think he already knows how to get an emulator, seeing as how his MH2 vid was recorded with Hypercam...
-
http://gens.consolemul.com/download/gens-win32-bin-2.14.zip
that is a genesis emulator. use that to acheive them.
...i would think he already knows how to get an emulator, seeing as how his MH2 vid was recorded with Hypercam...
Obvious i didn't watch the vid eh? :P
EDIT: can't download it. someone reupload it for me?
-
Okay after one year, I decided to go again and I have the video, but the problem is that the HyperCam doesn't like the game and the record has been glitched and... oh, see it yourselves:
http://rapidshare.com/files/410710846/S3DB-Z6-1_Score57800-stupid_HyperCam.MP4
I REALLY hope this is enough to unban me and if so, I ask you to eliminate all my stats. From now on, I only post stats that are already proven or I make a video of that stat or a couple of stats. Or I better make a proove video of every last one of them.
-
Oh and I still really would like to know why I posted the first video if it didn't help anything.
I know my WR isn't a WR anymore but I also know how to get 1(maybe 2) extra rings.
-
He's right, WHY DIDN'T ANYONE ANSWER THIS??? It's now a week I posted this and still nobody replied!
-
You say you posted it a week ago, but you were asked to do this a year ago.
If you don't provide proof soon, we will suspend all your statistics and you will be banned permanently.
Nothing changes this i'm afraid. Well done on getting that score in Gene Gadget, but its too late.
-
Yes. What's the point? First I couldn't do it for a few days, because I didn't play this game about a while. Then I didn't have the time to even think about TSC. And about half a year ago I totally forgot it until the summer holidays. And then I also needed a while to get into this game once again.
Better a late post than no post right?
-
While that figure of speech is logical, it is hardly practical here. The main reason for this being that no administrator cares about your particular case anymore. After a certain amount of time, they've forgotten about you and have left the ban in tact. The only thing you can do now is be active, compete legitimately elsewhere (say, Cyberscore) and hope the admins re-evaluate your case.
-
I also sent a message to Zeupar that I got the video now but he didn't answer. Is it just me or does really nobody care about my case(except HyperSonic7701, but he can't really do anything either)?
-
Take it from me, I had to get the admins to say no to me. Chances are, the same thing is happening to you, although you have a better case than I do, but that is my opinion. I hate to say this (I refused to accept this myself), but if you want to come back here (like I'm trying to do), you need a plan "b". You could try to get the admins to talk (like I tried to do), but I don't think they'll be very approving if you do.
But you got the admins to realize that you are existing(you know what I want to say :-)). I somehow couldn't do it :o
I may have a better case but no better place to talk to the admins :-(
-
No, you won't. You'd be better off, say... getting more involved in the forums and the Chatroom and competing at another site such as Cyberscore just like HyperSonic7701 already suggested. (Your odds of being unbanned here will increase somewhat, but that's up to the admins.)
Constantly posting on this topic to try and get attention is not the best idea.
You want to talk to the admins? Go to the Chatroom. Better than trying here over and over again.
-
OK, I failed at reading. Didn't read the "soon" :-(
I think I better take the Emerald Challenges coming up, but I still wonder why I posted my first video(that could help my case as well? Or not :-()
And maybe I won't ever try getting back to submitting again.