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Title: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: yse on April 19, 2009, 12:16:24 am
Alright, now this is an old concern (which has been re-raised many times, but most recently today) which I don't think we've done well to address in the past.

Basically, a newbie looks in the chatroom (or on the forum) and sees language like GM-Re. Now, the question is, what the hell does this mean?

Somebody who's been around for a long time, like me (and has played their fair share of Sonic Heroes, like me >_>) will recognise it without too much trouble. But in the interest of helping the new guys out, here's how it works:

Everything before the - symbol is an abbreviation of the level name (in this case, Grand Metropolis in Sonic Heroes). In cases where more than one level has the same abbreviation (eg. Metal Harbor and Meteor Herd) an additional letter can be added to remove the ambiguity, ie. MHa and MHe.

The first letter after the - symbol indicates the character (in this case, Team Rose). This works well enough, with one exception: in Sonic 06, all the characters start with S (Sonic, Shadow, Silver) and must again have an additional letter to remove ambiguity, but that messes with the third and final part a little.

As part of a legacy from the days when TSC was only about times, the default mode of thinking when you state a level-character combination is that it is being played for time. To indicate something else, add r for rings, s for scores (and in this case, Extra, you can use either e or x and the meaning is understood). As you can see, in the Sonic 06 instance above this presents a problem because you end up with something like FC-Sir. In this case it is advisable to put the r in brackets.

Finally, if two levels in separate games share an abbreviation (the obvious one being Casino Night/Carnival Night) then just add the game name at the end in brackets.

So, a couple of examples:
WC1 - Wild Canyon, mission 1, time, Sonic Adventure 2
DE-K - Death Egg, Knuckles, time, Sonic 2 (note Sonic 2 is implied - Sonic & Knuckles Death Egg has two acts)
TB2-Cs - Techno Base 2, Cream, score, Sonic Advance 2
CN2-S (S3) - Carnival Night 2, Sonic, time, Sonic 3
FiF-De - Final Fortress, Dark, extra, Sonic Heroes (to distinguish from Frog Forest)

TODO: list of level abbreviations
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Taillow on April 19, 2009, 08:44:09 am
Nice--wait, since when did we put a "-"?  I always went like AI2A and such.

Also why is Rose "Re"?  That's just confusing.
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Werey on April 19, 2009, 10:08:22 am

Also why is Rose "Re"?  That's just confusing.

If its GM-R'e', it means Rose extra
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Donna on April 19, 2009, 04:59:53 pm
Suggestion--maybe instead of using "Si" "So" "Sh" for Silver/Sonic/Shadow, maybe "i" "o" and "h" would work better? Although "o" could be mistaken for Omega, although Omega would more properly be w.
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Parax on April 19, 2009, 05:44:42 pm
odds are it'd just be more confusing that way... the way we use now works fine. Also you wouldn't confuse it for Omega because Omega is an extra character that doesn't have his own stages.
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Rolken on April 19, 2009, 05:55:10 pm
Basically, a newbie looks in the chatroom (or on the forum) and sees language like GM-Re. Now, the question is, what the hell does this mean?
I guess I'm a newbie. :(
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Buizel on April 19, 2009, 07:46:18 pm
I guess I'm a newbie. :(
Clearly.
noob >:O >_>
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Luxray on April 19, 2009, 09:01:13 pm
Suggestion--maybe instead of using "Si" "So" "Sh" for Silver/Sonic/Shadow, maybe "i" "o" and "h" would work better? Although "o" could be mistaken for Omega, although Omega would more properly be w.

You use Ω for Omega
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Donna on April 19, 2009, 09:04:48 pm
Lowercase omegas look like really curly cursive ws. :p
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Luxray on April 19, 2009, 09:10:53 pm
You mean ω?

OHNOES THE ROBOT IS A COMPLEX ROOT OF UNITY D:
/me shoots his Extension 2 Math Book
Title: fuck everyone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: username on April 26, 2009, 10:50:49 am
everthing fuckin sucks!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: fuck everyone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: douglas on April 26, 2009, 11:12:43 am
fuck everyone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I find your suggestion offensive and impractical.
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 26, 2009, 12:27:44 pm
DE-K - Death Egg, Knuckles, time, Sonic 2 (note Sonic 2 is implied - Sonic & Knuckles Death Egg has two acts)
Nevermind that DE1-K is, iirc, impossible to complete. And DE2-K isn't tracked officially.
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Aitamen on April 26, 2009, 09:58:13 pm
DE-K - Death Egg, Knuckles, time, Sonic 2 (note Sonic 2 is implied - Sonic & Knuckles Death Egg has two acts)
Nevermind that DE1-K is, iirc, impossible to complete. And DE2-K isn't tracked officially.
I should attempt this! >_>
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 26, 2009, 10:17:30 pm
Aita I'm pretty sure it's impossible to hit the DE1 boss, I think he's just out of jump height.
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Bilan on April 27, 2009, 03:04:33 am
DE1 is in fact imposible to clear as Knux
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: EngiNerd on April 29, 2009, 04:12:27 pm
It's perfectly possible.  Superglide off the spinning orb things when they're close to the ground./me ducks
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Crowbar on April 29, 2009, 05:49:44 pm
It's perfectly possible.  Superglide off the spinning orb things when they're close to the ground.

Uuuuuh...
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 29, 2009, 05:53:30 pm
Crowbar he's not serious...jeez
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Nextgengamer9 on April 29, 2009, 06:01:08 pm
Thx for the guide now I if someone says "DE2" I won't have to say "WTF".
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Crowbar on April 29, 2009, 07:52:28 pm
Crowbar he's not serious...jeez

Your mum's not serious.
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Antronach on April 30, 2009, 02:20:16 am
I've heard of the "spindash when the robot kneels" strategy, but he's apparently vulnerable the whole time, alebit hard to time.

-vid- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW7b0HV0U3o)
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Luxray on April 30, 2009, 05:22:08 am
I've heard of the "spindash when the robot kneels" strategy, but he's apparently vulnerable the whole time, alebit hard to time.

-vid- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW7b0HV0U3o)

You can't be serious can you?
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: EngiNerd on April 30, 2009, 08:37:22 am
It's a reasonable mistake ... and a dang funny one. Chao_Fan, we're referring to the Sonic and Knuckles boss ... Death Egg's Eye
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Antronach on April 30, 2009, 01:20:38 pm
asdf :X

Next time I'll try to ask a question pertaining to the first post and see how I do.
Title: Re: The Comprehensive Guide to Understanding Level Abbreviations
Post by: Aitamen on May 10, 2009, 08:03:44 pm
I still say it must be possible >_>

Yeah, I know it's not, but I feel like it SHOULD be... GRRRRRRR