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Sonic Central => Leaderboard Disputes => Topic started by: SadisticMystic on February 12, 2009, 01:33:25 pm

Title: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: SadisticMystic on February 12, 2009, 01:33:25 pm
You present 1:03.19 on the prototype, and link it to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l26-3iTWrw). Sure that video shows a 1:03.19...

...to me, it also shows autofire.

First off, I just ran a test of the homing attack in SA2. It turns out that after a jump, if you press A again within four frames, that A press is completely ignored. Homing attack A presses need to be at least 5 frames apart.

That said, after looking through the frames of that video, the homing attacks are consistent with 5...5...5...5 every time. Notably, this includes the one at the beginning for the acceleration boost, and there are no other jumps during "dead time" segments between hits. The only jumps/bounces that aren't followed 5 frames later by homing attacks are the ones into the lizard, and those don't appear to be particularly high jumps--as though it was a tap of A, released within 4 frames.

Of course, even the predators who walked into Chris Hansen's house got a chance to defend themselves, so if you have anything to say, now's your chance.
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Parax on February 12, 2009, 02:26:47 pm
The rules don't say anything about autofire being banned, actually. Might want to fix that.
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Groudon on February 12, 2009, 02:34:48 pm
The rules don't say anything about autofire being banned, actually. Might want to fix that.

They used to, but it mysteriously vanished when the general rules were rewritten.
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: DsSaster on February 12, 2009, 11:45:02 pm
*ahem*

Straight from the general rules.

"Common sense applies in all games. If something seems iffy, you probably shouldn't be doing it."

;)
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: son1cgu1tar on February 13, 2009, 05:51:08 am
Hello budys, sorry to keep your waiting, I didn't know about this topic before DarkSpinesSonic tell me.
My english it's not so good, because all that I know I learn playing games, listening musics and watching movies.
So, what I do in the biolizard is "shake" my fingers as fast as possible to do continuous homing attacks, I don't know if "shake" is the right word to use to what I do, an example is, when you feel cold you body shakes right ? Is that right o.o' ? I don't know if is the right word.
I learn how to shake since I started to play guitar hero 1,2,3 on expert on the dual shock normal ps2 controller, some songs are so hard and pressing the button normal is impossible to beat(example: TTFAF, knights of cyndonia, holiday in cambodia, the way ot ends...), and shaking make it easy to beat.
So 2 bosses on the SA2B(my favourite game =D) you can do this, those bosses are biolizard and finalhazard, you shake your finger to do it quickly.
So there it is, I upload a video of me shaking my fingers, but some people think it is fake, I'm using a camera of a cell phone with 2.0 megapixels and it cannot record the shake, on the video seems to be my fingers are not moving.
If you guys tell me an example to video that I could record to prove and show how I do the "shake", I can record it ^^
Hope you guys understand it...
Link to the video of shaking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH3UMIcqXJg
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Bilan on February 13, 2009, 05:52:51 am
Real men use the guitar controller! >_>
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: son1cgu1tar on February 13, 2009, 06:04:50 am
I didn't play guitar hero at a long time, I started to play with controller dual shock, one year has passed And I started to play with guitar xD
Heres the video of the first time That I clear TTFAF on the expert with normal controller xD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtdWGnOTTos
And this is of jordan xD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_va_yg8XE
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Luxray on February 13, 2009, 06:17:27 am
the user for those videos is gu1tarher0. Care to explain what happened there?
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Jawzunx on February 13, 2009, 06:20:21 am
I watched the video, and it doesn't seem autofire to me.
By the way, he says he done it with DC controller. I tested with both Gamecube and Dreamcast controllers, and it seems a lot easier to get that speed with DC controller.
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Bilan on February 13, 2009, 06:22:06 am
the user for those videos is gu1tarher0. Care to explain what happened there?

Not everyone uses the same username for everything
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: son1cgu1tar on February 13, 2009, 06:25:08 am
I have a lot of youtube accounts, gu1tarher0 is one of then
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Luxray on February 13, 2009, 06:27:02 am
Ok thanks. Its always good to clarify that stuff.
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: son1cgu1tar on February 13, 2009, 08:41:36 am
I watched the video, and it doesn't seem autofire to me.
By the way, he says he done it with DC controller. I tested with both Gamecube and Dreamcast controllers, and it seems a lot easier to get that speed with DC controller.
It's easy with both...
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: fastnaturedude on February 15, 2009, 11:03:46 am
If Jawzun clarified that it can be done, it can probably be done. :P
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: fireboy on February 15, 2009, 11:10:17 am
i think its possible to do that without autofire, but only on the dreamcast though
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Brian on February 15, 2009, 12:14:24 pm
It doesn't depends on what plataform you choose, it's only a matter of how fast you can push a button, this can be done in GC, in DC and even in a PC's keyboard, I do this too, I've started with this a long time ago on sonic 2 to put more rings faster with debug mode, it's simple as son1cgu1tar said, just needs some pratice, now I can push a button 12 times per second and I can say it's totally possible to do what he did this way.
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Groudon on February 15, 2009, 01:04:48 pm
In case nobody even bothered to check his channel, he posted an explanation vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH3UMIcqXJg
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Parax on February 15, 2009, 01:30:10 pm
In case nobody even bothered to check his channel, he posted an explanation vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH3UMIcqXJg

Yeah, he posted that in this thread. >_>
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Werey on February 15, 2009, 01:59:45 pm
I seen it >_>
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: son1cgu1tar on February 16, 2009, 06:46:33 pm
xD
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Spinballwizard on February 17, 2009, 12:03:16 am
1:02:83, huh? Well that new record was quick. Got a vid for that one too?
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Brian on February 19, 2009, 12:51:54 pm
Dude... are you Brazilian?
Title: Re: son1cgu1tar - Biolizard
Post by: Jawzunx on February 19, 2009, 02:41:50 pm
If Jawzun clarified that it can be done, it can probably be done. :P

lol, thanks :)