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Sonic Central => General Sonic => Topic started by: Conker T. Squirrel on March 18, 2007, 09:38:44 pm
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Just read the title.
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No.
NO.
NO!
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NO!
Note; This probably wouldn't be the best site to ask this on.
Try TSS. Even there you'll get ridiculed.
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My hack should be coming out eventually <_<
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let's hope never
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We're currently in a black hole where all logic is changed and no upcoming Sonic game is announced.
Yeah, I hope it'll change soon. Me am hungry for moar.
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I remember drooling over previews of Sonic Adventure 2 way back.
I look forward to when Sonic06 2 is announced.
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I remember drooling over previews of Sonic Adventure 2 way back.
Oh man, those were the days. I had to look for magazines that weren't plasticized in stores to find some screens. Although I remember thinking it looked quite rubbish.
I don't expect a "Sonic The Hedgehog 2" because... fuck no explanation needed. I do expect they pull another Sonic Heroes by trying something "different", probably going "back to roots" again (A 3D SIDESCROLLER PLZ).
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I want Sonic DVD. Period.
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I read somewhere that their making a Sonic Riders 2.
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Yea, "it was announced before Riders 1 came out"
I really look forward to when they reveal it.
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I heard about that...
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PS: A new Sonic game came out less than a month ago.
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I heard of a game called Sonic and Mario at the Olyimpics.Anybody heard of it?
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Better question is anybody never heard of it.
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Yeah really...
Here we go again...
Also, for those that are oblivious ot the fact (which I doubt there will be many), NiGHTS is really in development for the Wii.
Up next has ot be Riders 2 I'm hoping... (or even another sequel to any of the Sonic games).
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I just know I'm going to be disappointed with the next Sonic game when it comes.
Since SADXT has a 0.0000000...% chance of happening, and SA3 has a 0.1% chance.
I won't be too angry if the next regular Sonic platformers are about the same quality as Sonic Heroes or SA2,
and have the same quality of voices as SA2, but I'd prefer something that has better gameplay than SA(1)
and exceeds SA's acting by fixing its problems like recording glitches and the occasional really bad line.
That's right, even I think SA can be beaten. I'll probably still call SA the best game ever made,
but a game that is just as fun, but without Big stages, and with more Sonic stages, would be awesome.
SADXT is the dream remake of SA that won't happen. The other one that I described
would still be nice, but it's very unlikely that it will come close to being the way I want it.
So what does have a good chance of happening? This:
Sonic the Hedgehog. Given this name to present it as another game which goes back to the roots
(or by actually taking the next downward step). In other words, to cause even more confusion,
by being at least the fourth game to have that name. Rumoured to be the last game with 4Kids
voices, since, as put by Sega, "Sonic X, the popular children's cartoon where Sonic came from,
has recently ended, and we have no reason to tie the games in with it. We'll let you know if the show begins
again, and maybe we can make some nice video games based on it, with your favourite voice actors."
With 43 playable characters, and one Action Stage for each. It is rumoured that Knuckles will have
many more rivals than just Rouge, and Big and his buddies will make a return.
This game will take Sonic back to his roots, by being the first Sonic game to take place on Earth,
and by introducing new gimmicks, such as "?" boxes, dice, a music blast attack to wipe out enemies,
a new look for each character, and a light, simple story which doesn't get in the way (or in other words,
has tons of non-skippable cutscenes, but is full of nothing and borrows junk from every other game).
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Well with this whole Nights for Wii and Mario-Sonic game, why does it suddenly feel like a miracle if Riders 2 isn't cancelled, or if it just becomes Wii-exclusive?
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You do make a good point there eggFL.
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I do believe Sonic Team said the next few sonic games will only be on the Wii while they take Sonic back to is roots or something like that?
Which in my interpretation means no Riders 2 :D
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Well with this whole Nights for Wii and Mario-Sonic game, why does it suddenly feel like a miracle if Riders 2 isn't cancelled, or if it just becomes Wii-exclusive?
I wouldn't be surprised either, really...
I'm more leaning towards the whole "Wii-exclusive" idea. I'm trying to be a little optomistic (as much as I can when it comes to SEGA) and hope it's not going to be cancelled...
Anyway, the Mario-Sonic crossover seems like it'll do pretty well. Naturally, competition here will follow I'm sure. So we've got swimming down. I'm wonder what other races they'll do? Hurdle Race, Bike Race/Triathlon, stuff like that I guess...
I bet you're really stoked about NiGHTS, eggFL, am I right?
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I just want Sonic in SSB:Brawl.
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It's gonna happen. Nintendo just doesn't feel like announcing anything.
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Yeah really, what else is new...
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I bet you're really stoked about NiGHTS, eggFL, am I right?
yep! you know me pretty well dont ya
Well sorta. I loved Nights and at one time it was the biggest thing ever to me. But that was a long time ago.
It wasn't too long ago when I pretty much stopped caring about Nights altogether.
But now they're making a new one and I was pretty excited about that. Excited, but mostly really surprised.
But I love Sonic, not Nights. And Nights's announcement comes alongside Sega's apparent nerfing of the Sonic series.
Because they couldn't even make a Sonic game on Xbox 360 without totally screwing it up and now all of a sudden they have to retreat to Wii. Because they're not even competent enough to make one game and now that means Sonic isn't "contemporary" enough. And fixing that of course involves being Nintendo exclusive and starring in sports spinoff games.
And sega america prez can lie and pander to Sonic hate to sell a shitty Sonic Mario crossover game.
So yea... that's the gist of it.
btw I love the Nights redesign. To me that's pretty much the highlight of the new game, so far that is.
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@ EggFL: Agreed!
SONIC + MARIO + SPORTS-GAME + MYAMOTO AS CREATIV DIRECTOR + FAMILY-FRIENDLY + WII-CONTROLS = THE WORST IDEA EVER, EVER!!!!!!!!!!
I Just soooooooooo want to kill Myamoto!
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It's not such a bad idea. It's just a step down for Sonic.
I thought Sonic was supposed to be above Mario. But that didn't work out, so they gave up.
That's why I don't like it.
And I don't hate Miyamoto beyond disagreeing with his style of game design. But now I do hate Sega of america president for using the failure of Sonic06 to claim that Sonic is turning around (again). The worst part of all, when he says stuff that Sonic is going to be more "contemporary", is not just that he's spinning, but the possibility that he is actually serious when he says that part. That, and what that means for Sonic, is what really gets to me.
I don't register a Mario-Sonic crossover as a good sign by any means. Are sports spin-off games, like Mario has countless of, what it takes to be "contemporary"?
So yea... that's my sentiment.
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I'm not saying I want to kill myamoto because I hate him, but because I beleave he is way too overworshiped and he is probably going to ruin my most favourit game series of all time, the Sonic series! I admit that all in all, he is a great guy who has done a lot for the games industry and thats why I can't really hate him. But on the other hand, as you said, I don't like his style of game design at all, yet he es worshiped as the god of video games! I never say that games like Mario and Zelda are bad and I can understand that they are so popular, but they are unjustly taking the highest places in the charts and knock Sonic off the list, not because they are really this perfect, but because most people don't have a mind of their own. I could talk more about this and about why I don't like Myamoto's style of game design, but I won't since I don't have much time for this. But I just believe that Myamoto really isn't worth all this worship!
And then I heard one of the worst news in my life: Sonic and that Plumper in some shitty sports game!
Neither did I EVER wanted to see Sonic and Mario in the same game, nor did I EVER, EVER, EVER want to see Sonic in a sport game! (You don't need to tell me that Sonic already has sport games for mobile. Who cares about mobile anyway? And racing games are OK, as long as they're full of fantasy and are cool.) And OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH, I don't wanna even emagine how kiddy Sonic could get in this game!
I also will extremely hate it if for example they now make Mario suddenly as fast as Sonic or if Sonic now suddenly can swim or something. It will totally piss me off to ruin the history of the characteristics of two extremely famous characters, just to establish balance!
To make matters worse, it was said clearly that this game is going to be a family friendly game which is going to be easy to play for everybody and I absolutely can't forgive anyone for doing this to Sonic! What do you imagine when you here "family friendly game"? I imagine something totally rediculous for a Sonic game! It gives me the feeling that this game is going to be a "Wii Sports 2"! On its own, it's not necessarily a bad thing, since I don't have to buy it. But having SONIC in a Wii Sports 2 extremely pisses me off! They just can't do that to Sonic!
A while back, Myamoto said that he is going to stop making games like Mario and Zelda for a while in favour of making some more family friendly games. He said he wants to make more girls and older people interested in video games. The possibilities of the Wii are going to be a great help! On its own, this is a good idea, but I can only hope that "M&S in OG" does NOT belong in this plan! Maybe Myamoto is trying to make more people interested in Sonic and Mario this way. I, however, think this is an extremely bad idea, since it especially ruins the character of the Sonic series!
It is right that the president of Sega of America said the thing about making Sonic more "contemporary" and "family friendly! and I hate him for that, too. But I believe all this is happening just because people unjustly think that Myamoto is god! After all, Myamoto is now the creative director of this game and it is in his hands to whether ruin Sonic in this game, or ruin Sonic in this game! If he just was killed a while back, before making all those stupid Mario Sports Game Spinoffs, it hadn't come to this!
By the way, Sonic 06 had a lot of bugs an long loading times and it was less than expected, yes, but it was still, and you especially know that EggFL, a very great game! It had/has done sooo many things right and there is sooo much awesome about it! Bug again, most people don't realize it, because they don't have a mind of their own. But this is a different story...
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Oh my God shut the fuck up. Sonic is already ruined since 1998, stop holding him to some ridiculous perfect standard that doesn't fucking exist anymore. There's nothing left to fucking ruin, no gameplay standard, no character, nothing.
And he's always been family friendly, look at all the screaming kids who obsess over him. In fact Sonic is pretty much second ONLY to Mario in terms of family-friendly videogame icons. (anything you cite to the contrary from Shadow or Sonic 06 is irrelevant as these are recent developments, which aren't even reflected in other games like SatSR)
You go on about people "not having a mind of their own", and yet you continue to WORSHIP a character whose games have been in a steady decline since before the turn of the century, as if nothing's been going wrong. And why? Because you're too obsessed with this character to turn away from him.
God people like you piss me off so much.
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First, I expect you to show some more respect, even if you disagree with me!
Second, you're totally misunderstanding me! Although I totally disagree with what you say about Sonic being ruined since 1998 (you as a big Sonic Rush fan should know that), I never said that Sonic games are perfect, neither did I ever say that there hasn't been any mistakes done in the last few years. And if I like any of the new Sonic games, I have good reasons for it. It's defenately not just because it was Sonic!
You have also misunderstood what I meant with "I don't want Sonic to become family friendly". I agree with you about Sonic already being very family friendly and that is a good thing. But I was actually talking from a different perspective. I may write more about this a different time, but now, I really have to leave.
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Siavash Tazari im gonna have to say I think you're overreacting a little or just looking at this the wrong way.
First off Miyamoto isn't that terrible. I think his vision of making "hardcore" games is skewed or has become skewed but a lot of the recognition he gets as of late is regarding innovation and his approach toward nongamers, and that recognition is well-deserved.
And he couldn't have caused any changes to Sonic, he didn't cause this Mario-Sonic game to happen. He works at Nintendo, not Sega. It's Sega that did this because they are the ones who came to him. Sega gave up on Sonic, Miyamoto had nothing to do with it. It was Sega's decision and the ideas involved with that decision (also Sega's) that are the issue here.
To make matters worse, it was said clearly that this game is going to be a family friendly game which is going to be easy to play for everybody and I absolutely can't forgive anyone for doing this to Sonic!
That's a good thing. In fact, I believe almost all games should be like that to an extent....
And again, it's an olympics game, not a real Sonic game, so why fret?
By the way, Sonic 06 had a lot of bugs an long loading times and it was less than expected, yes, but it was still, and you especially know that EggFL, a very great game! It had/has done sooo many things right and there is sooo much awesome about it! Bug again, most people don't realize it, because they don't have a mind of their own. But this is a different story...
Sonic06 is a beautiful game. But it's unfit for a realistic audience.
The game is hardly "playable" which is imo the least a Sonic game should be.
That is, if the game had, let's pretend for a second, no load times. Could you imagine how much more successful/acclaimed the game would have been. I'm not saying it would be perfect, not at all, but all the crap in the game would have been taken in a lot better and people would actually be able to appreciate it as a quirky chapter game with plenty of consistent action, and compulsive fun. (+replay value = good game) You know I'm right. Games live and die by having flow and by being accessible.
But I guess I'm saying, that's the nature of the most devastating problems with Sonic06, as simple as it was. But rather than realizing it or fixing it, they jump ship to Wii, and threaten to kill Sonic as we know it and, seemingly, turn it into another Mario.
Oh my God shut the fuck up. Sonic is already ruined since 1998, stop holding him to some ridiculous perfect standard that doesn't fucking exist anymore. There's nothing left to fucking ruin, no gameplay standard, no character, nothing.
That's not true. Sonic as we know it didn't really exist until Sonic Adventure. He wasn't perfect, but nobody said he was. However Sonic was godamn brilliant at times. And you can't get it anywhere else. You can't get the gameplay anywhere else either.
Yea he's family friendly, which is why he's great. He's a family friendly cartoon hedgehog superhero mascot. And he's got class. (see gloves) Yet he represents the bravest and coolest franchise in mascot history. Without Sonic, mascotdom would be a barren wasteland with horrible design (Kameo, Spyro), characters with not one but two x's in their names (Vexx), uncreative dark fantasy motifs (ditto, ditto, ditto) or Hanna Barbera motifs and characters that wear nothing but boxer shorts. (Ty) and so on (btw Vexx is a good game tbh)
All those other franchises are generally worthless. Sonic is criticized for having fetch quests and town missions but the other guys do nothing but fetch quests and town missions. None of those franchises are interesting or cool but only Sonic is. Don't you get it?
And all Sonic did to be cool was try to be cool. And it worked. My god, it worked.
And Sonic is FUNNY and soo charming because of how wonderfully enthusiastic and derivative it is. "I finally found it, the Iblis Trigger" That's /savvy/. Hell, that's art. Same with Sonic Adventure 2. The whole game had the metal feel and soundtrack and Sonic spent the entire time pursuing a black evil mysterious version of himself but ended up teaming up with to beat the final boss. I love it. Countless moments in Sonic are just righteous like Pyramid Cave. Do you not see that, that doesn't mean anything?
Plus, in retrospect all 3D Sonics are fast, smooth, playable, and very fun games. Like, you couldn't even get the same experience anywhere else. Sonic was the only one that was even doing that kind of gameplay.
"Because you're too obsessed with this character to turn away from him." YEA you know what you're right. I'll turn away from Sonic because apparently he is utter shit with no redeeming qualities. I'll go play.... Sunshine. Cleaning up paint to xylophone music! Slow gameplay! No voice acting! yeaaa.. rock on :S The best part is the lack of variety in environments and the complete lack of atmosphere. But then again Sonic doesn't have those things..... >_>;
Or Rainbow Six Vegas. Vegas is like a casino stage! That's cool, right?
You're pissed off, but like, why should we care? You've been in a Sonic forum over seven years after the series was supposedly ruined.
All this stuff I see, the things I love Sonic for, and reason I have come to realize why people keep buying and enjoying the games despite the supposed horridness that they're made out to be. None of these elements mean anything at all? You can't even begin to appreciate them or recognize that they exist? Are opinions that fickle?
Well whatever. You have won. Sonic is going to the Wii on a Mario-Sonic crossover game. Congratulations, hater.
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Well, I admit I overreacted, I already new this when I was writing that stuff, but overreacting is kind of in my blood. :P
See, I know that Myamoto is not a terrible guy and that he deserves a lot of recognition, but I still believe he is overworshiped. And he definately isn't actively or intensionally ruining Sonic, but look what is happening: Sonic and Mario have always been big rivals. Even nowadays they get compared to eachother alot. In the early days both had good reputations. Now, Mario games are praised as if they where gifts from heaven, same goes to Zelda, Smash Bross and pretty much any other game developed by Nintendo, hell even NINTENDOGS, while Sonic is more and more smashed into the ground. The number of Sonic Haters who don't even know much about Sonic has been growing in recent times. Now, I'm not saing Mario games are bad and Sonic games are perfect. Mario games are definately very good games, otherwise they couldn't become this popular. However, as someone who knows near to all Sonic games very well and has also tried out alot of Mario games, both old and new, I just believe what is going on here is totally unfair. Why people bitch and nit-pick about Sonic so much is a long descussion for itself, which I wish to spare at this point. But the thing is, nowadays most people have learned to love bitching about Sonic without even realizing how unique Sonic games really are and how many things are soooooooooo cool about Sonic. All they are able to see are the flaws and thats because that is the only thing "Professional Reviewers" tell them! Most people just blindly follow reviews and sometimes even forget what they liked or didn't like about a game in the first place. On the other hand, no "Professional Reviewer" even DARES to really critisize any work of Myamoto! So what do you think happens? Yes: Most people start/continue to worship games developed by Nintendo, even stupid sport-spinoffs by Mario. I mean really, how the hell can a game like Mario Golf get a better average score than Sonic Adventure 2 Battle?! As time goes by, more and more people start to kiss Nintendo's ass, because Nintendo, with Myamoto on the front, has played a very big role in the games industry, both hardware-wise and software-wise. Even Sonic is here because Mario started it all. It's Nintendo's history that makes it such a great company. So, what is wrong with Nintedo? Nothing, acactually! It's just that the number of ass-kissers has grown so much, that rarely someone even dares to critisise what Nintendo, with Myamoto at the front, does. So, what happens to games that are considered rivals for Nintendo games? They are usually disrespected by the ass-kissers. Yes, I am talking about Sonic here! I mean look at this: There are a lot of hardcore Sonic Fans who also like Mario. But, compared to that, howmany hardcore Mario Fans you can think of who actually really now much about Sonic? Sonic games are disrespected without even really being known! But Sega doesn't seem to realize what the actual problem is. What they see is that Myamoto is worshiped and Sonic is apparently dying. So, what they do is go Myamoto-Style! They decide to feature Sonic in a shitty Sports game and give the project to Myamoto to "get sure that nothing gets messed up". After all, Myamoto is god, so what could go wrong?
It is right that Myamoto hasn't actively or intensionally ruined Sonic, but I hope now you can undersand why I partly make him responsible for what is happening to Sonic in the moment. And my very biggest fear is that Sonic gets too much influenced from Myamoto-games, especially after M&S in OG, and if that really happens, then there can be no one who I can ever hate more than Myamoto! It's not something that has already happened, so, as I said, I don't really hate him and saing that I want to kill him was an intensional exaggeration which wasn't meant seriously. But all what is happening now to Sonic is just giving me the creeps and with Sonic starring beside Mario in a game directed by Myamoto, whos style of game I absolutely don't like, I just fear that my biggest fears could come true in the near future!
Well, I usually don't like games which are easy to play for everyone, since these games are just usually some shallow party games. I prefer hardcore games which require a lot of skill and gaming experience. I am not saying that it is a bad thing to have more family friendly games. In contrary, I am all for it to make more and more people interested in Video games and I support Myamoto for doing this. And as you said, M&S in OG is just a sports game, so it doesn't need to be hardcore. But my problem is that Sonic is in it! I just hate to see Sonic in a sports game! All these years I've been happy to play real Sonic games while Mario was making loads and loads of Spinoffs. Now, it's like Sonic going on his knees in front of stupid Mario-sport-spinoffs! This is what pisses me off most about this game!
So, what I meant with "I don't want Sonic to become family friendly" was that I want Sonic to stay hardcore. Sure, a lot of kids like Sonic, because he is cool, but how many of them have actually beaten a Sonic game? The majority of Sonic gamers are teenagers who are well experienced with video games; not children; not parents.
EggFL, you have writen so much stuff and I wished I could reply to all of that, but I have already been writing for so long already myself and I should go to bed now! :)
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I agree in some part. But a few comments:
I don't think Sonic (or truly great games in general) should require lots of skill or gaming experience. In fact, a big reason I thought Sonic was great is that it's very straightforward (get to the goal; have fun while doing it) and doesn't use a lot of buttons. I think that the secret to Sonic's true success in the future was to maintain that while pursuing quality, polish, and to continue expanding and improving its game world and style.
This is the reason I don't like Mario and Miyamoto because Mario used to be an icon for "pick-up-and-play" and new gamers but now Mario is very alienating treacherous and puzzle-heavy series with no more action stages.
I sometimes say that 3D Sonic has more in common with 2D Sonic and even 2D Mario, than 3D Mario does.
And it's another thing if it requires skill or gaming experience to /master/ or to get a perfect save. Which is great because it keeps the attention of hardcore gamers and also extends replay value. This is where the A-rank system and scoring system comes in. Sonic showed us, among many other great things, an example of how you can make a seemingly easy or simple game, (3D Sonic is generally easy, right?) one that's relatively accessible, and then add the real challenge and replay value on top of that. And that allows the actual game to still be played (and beaten) and appreciated by casual gamers, kids, whoever. It's a win-win formula.
I think it's a good thing that Sonic is liked by kids. Because I think in general there's no reason for a kid to NOT like Sonic. And if they can't even beat a game (without really trying and practice that is) then that's a bad thing. But I always believed that if you can't beat Sonic, you're far far less likely to see the ending of a Mario or Zelda anyway. (unless you use CHEAT CODES!!!111 whooo)
EggFL, you have writen so much stuff
I've been getting that a bit.
It's my new thing I guess.
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Sonic should get in a good game first.
And Mario has developed a legion of ass-kissers, but generally in homegrown pods known as officially sanctioned forums.
Sonic merely needs help. I don't know how, but it must be done. Sonic's not the kind of game that should require memorization, but don't push it and turn it into another Sadv2.
Sonic needs to find a way to work before they go putting him in games which befit an ABC afterschool special like this one.
Nintendo may make gmaes that aren't all they're cracked up to be, but Ocarina Of Time is a stroke of genius, as well as Metroid Prime, F-Zero GX, and the cruxes of all the series they've had.
Sonic is mashed into the ground for a reason. Sonic Adventure 2 Battle was a port. Ports generally get lower scores than the game they're based on. SA2B was a pretty straight port, while SM64DS was upgraded with new features and all that jazz. And the main death trap in a Sonic game should not be a bottomless pit anyway, so I see the point of their anger.
SA2B is my favorite 3D Sonic game. But I'll be the first to say it has faults. The Mario spinoffs may not aim for what Sonic does, but they're nice, well-rounded games to play, even if they are franchised a bit much. Mario is an "average" person, at least in video game terms. But Sonic is this blue anthromorphic hedgehog. You can do a lot more with a fat Italian plumber than you can do with a superhero-esque hedgehog, as one can get down and play tennis, while the other probably can't do it without the racket burning up. It's like trying to franchise Metroid. Look at Metroid Prime Pinball. Did that work?
And since Sonic games have been getting better reviews in the form of Sonic Rush and Secret Rings, I'd say Sonic is in the mood for a comeback.
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FReaking Mario and Sonic in a sports crossover game...Would've been cooler if they switched worlds...Anyways that game is gonna suck and crowbar I respect your opinion but Sonic was ruined once Sonic 06 came out. I actually think that, after watching vids., SatSR brang back that "as fast as you can" feeling back but this is just going to ruin both characters.
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A Doubtful Sound - Fair enough, but I don't agree that bottomless pits are much worse than dead-end puzzles. And I don't agree with reviewers' tendency to rate ports lower just for being ports. Besides, Mario 64 DS isn't the best example for this because not only it had all the extra content, but it's a handheld port as well. Sonic Adventure 2 Battle came out only 1-2 years after Sonic Adventure 2, I personally don't think such a large gap in ratings was called for.
Also, yea Metroid is a pretty silly game to franchise. But who said Metroid Prime Pinball was bad? :o
anyway I personally would take Sonic over Zelda/Mario any day of the week. Sure they may be great at what they are, I just don't like anything Mario or Zelda has been doing after they went 3D. And it's not at all that 3D is bad. I am huge advocate of 3D, Sonic showed me basically that 3D flat out rules. The problem is that with 3D, Nintendo has taken a different approach. And I also find it a little ironic that Nintendo has been making such obnoxious or difficult games in 3D that, if you ask me, barely carry any of the elements from the 2D legacy and have alienated new gamers just as well as anyone else (maybe even more, than Halo and GTA, which are rightfully rounding up the demographic by the hordes?) are barely fit for anyone BUT the very experienced "hardcore" gamers and long time fans, BUT now Nintendo is turning around and going the opposite extreme by focusing on nongamer material like Nintendogs, Miis, etc.
Or am I the only one who finds that ironic.
FReaking Mario and Sonic in a sports crossover game...Would've been cooler if they switched worlds...Anyways that game is gonna suck and crowbar I respect your opinion but Sonic was ruined once Sonic 06 came out. I actually think that, after watching vids., SatSR brang back that "as fast as you can" feeling back but this is just going to ruin both characters.
I doubt this would ruin Mario. Like, how could it ruin it more than the sports spinoffs have? Or Smash Bros?
But it's a step down for Sonic. Sonic and Mario were once rivals. But they both changed since then. The key difference now is that Sonic is an actual canon whereas Mario is only a bit more than a puppet to be franchised excessively. So it's a step down for Sonic. But to Mario, it makes absolutely no difference.
A game which serves to humble Sonic is the opposite of what Sonic needs at this point in time.
It's like comparing a naive young spirited (but a bit nerdy) college freshman to an old (but experienced) shameless hooker. Only one of the two is threatened here.
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No it's because Mario has hella' sports games but one that takes place at the olyimpics??!!!That's kinda' going too far.
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Well, here's a sports game that Sonic has: Sega Splash Golf.
[http://www.sonicstadium.org/sonicnews/287/]
Sonic has been confirmed to be the main "caddy" and other characters like Tails and Nights, Ulala, Opa Opa Clan and others join in the mix. I really hope they'll port this to the Wii once it comes to U.S!
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Well that game looks kind of lame. But the girl is cute.
Cel shaded Sonic. It's been a while. :x
Also, a Japan-only PC-only game? Quit odd...
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the girl is cute ><
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Heh, the graphics and the girl are cute and if it's as good as Mario Golf I'm really looking forward to this.
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Same. Let's hope for a US release.. on the Wii! :D
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Guys it's not a "Sonic" game. It's just a game with Sonic making a random cameo.
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^ OKAY THANKS SCROOGE
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Guys it's not a "Sonic" game. It's just a game with Sonic making a random cameo.
Wow, you mean a game called "SEGA Splash Golf" isn't a Sonic game???
(Okay, I'll stop.)
I don't know how eggFL can decide if the game's good, just from two screenshots.
It looks to me like it's to Mario Golf what Sonic Shuffle was to Mario Party. The quality? Who knows?
Finally, the girl is cute. :P
And more finally, look how tall Sonic is! 3'3", definitely!