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Title: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: PsyBorg on May 10, 2006, 07:32:45 pm
Help plz. I can't understand how the times are so fast, so give me a hint or two.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: Spinballwizard on May 10, 2006, 08:14:38 pm
TBG I assume.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: magnum12 on May 10, 2006, 08:16:54 pm
It's TBG. Its a really annoying trick that turns boss attacking into a contest of who can abuse the glitch fastest.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: PsyBorg on May 10, 2006, 09:18:03 pm
...okay, I read up on that, and that's, without a doubt, totally stupid. I'm wondering why there isn't a rule against that, but I assume there's a reason for everything...



...but I can't believe that all of the records I previously had didn't involve this little cheapass trick. Oh well then, time to redo everything from the start.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: eggFL on May 12, 2006, 04:17:21 am
Ah yes, this thing. When I found out about it from the guide listed on this site, I had to ask since it seemed completely, horribly abusable.

Apparently, sonicam and eredani, two top-rankers, frown upon the glitch. I was told that they don't use it, and I've noticed that their Dark boss times are lower-ranked than all their other times/scores.

As I understand it, the glitch is basically /supposed/ to be against the rules, I think. In any case, I don't use it either.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: Groudon on May 12, 2006, 02:37:54 pm
If it would be banned in competition, almost every Dark boss would be removed from the ranking, since, except for the 2 team battles, it would be hard to determine if the person used this trick.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: eggFL on May 12, 2006, 03:12:40 pm
All bosses, all team Dark levels, and perhaps some other levels are vurnerable to be broken by the glitch, if they haven't already. As far as I can tell. Although I was really proud of myself since I got records in all 6 non-Dark robot storms without using the exploit. That was before Psyborg took one of them down just recently. XD Well, fair enough.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: Groudon on May 12, 2006, 03:47:58 pm
Actual levels aren't very useful for the glitch, but every boss can be destroyed by the glitch, which is how I have the Dark record for Egg Emperor.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: eggFL on May 12, 2006, 03:49:45 pm
It isn't possible to freeze time over and over as you inch your way through the level?
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: PsyBorg on May 12, 2006, 05:07:06 pm
Actually, only my Robot Storm Rose record used the glitch, I tried redoing Robot Carnival and found that TBG doesn't help at all. It was all about the strategic timing of the non-TBG blasts and regular attacks.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: Spinballwizard on May 12, 2006, 08:39:55 pm
It isn't possible to freeze time over and over as you inch your way through the level?
I can't be certain, but I think it wastes more time than it saves. If you've seen yoshifan's Grand Metropolis Dark vid, you'll note that he doesn't TBG. Sure, he uses 3 TB's, but they're all legitimitely gained. And this is a RECORD vid.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: magnum12 on May 12, 2006, 09:23:26 pm
It isn't possible to freeze time over and over as you inch your way through the level?
Yes it is. A little while back, I conducted an experiment like this on a seperate Game Cube memory card for Seaside Hill (Dark). For the record, the data from this experiment was NOT!! used for records. I got 1:30:?? doing something just like egg mentioned. In regards to detecting TBG for bosses, we should use the times of sonicam, erendi, and myself as a guide. Any times that are unusually (key word unusually!!!) faster than the best of those 3 might be TBG assisted.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on July 17, 2006, 01:46:35 pm
So that's what TBG means! Lol.

I've always wondered about one of my boss times - Team Rose VS Chaotix. This was the ONLY record I did where it was subjected to this glitch.

It should be against the rules; it's not fair.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: PsyBorg on July 17, 2006, 08:21:22 pm
I agree it's rather unfair, but you had little to contribute to actually make a revival of this 2-month old topic worthy.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: eggFL on July 17, 2006, 08:54:27 pm
Not worthy? Hell this topic should be stickied. Like a TBG public service announcement.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: PsyBorg on July 17, 2006, 09:00:28 pm
Not worthy? Hell this topic should be stickied. Like a TBG public service announcement.


I guess, but the admins didn't sticky this or anything, so I thought they didn't give a damn.
Title: Re: Dark bosses in Sonic Heroes
Post by: yse on July 18, 2006, 01:19:01 am
Because no one cares any more. It's only Sonic Heroes.