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Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on March 27, 2006, 08:57:56 pm
Please note: This is NOT my best performance. I HAVE done better (look at the results at the start). However, this is almost perfect.

Now, I have no clue how someone cuts the time so much... 15 seconds? Wow. I think I found it (a secret route underground I've never seen). However, it just added 15 seconds or so when I tried.

Anyway, hope you enjoy! ^_^ I only have the best quality version right now.

Edit: Oops, THERE we go!

http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0OEEHF0...372NZK023Q463Y2 (http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0OEEHF082R1372NZK023Q463Y2)

Low Quality: http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=136ORQB...6630PGECVCXVK7S (http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=136ORQBN3NT6630PGECVCXVK7S)

Google (Quick Stream): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3167642602570646693 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3167642602570646693)
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Rolken on March 28, 2006, 01:33:54 am
I'd offer to put it on TSC, but it's huuuuge.

edit: plus a minute of credits is silly :/

Entertaining tho. :o
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2006, 04:11:01 am
Nice video. :)

Got 1'59"62 now. When you run along that sideways metal grating thing, how do you run down at the end? It seems to make me stay in the middle so I just hit the wall. :/
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on March 28, 2006, 04:55:59 pm
Sorry, I don't know understand...

Anyway, lower quality version in.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on March 29, 2006, 06:50:17 am
Quote
Sorry, I don't know understand...
[snapback]11176[/snapback]

This bit:

http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=30SZQIO...GU02AIBZAB47MQQ (http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=30SZQIOXTZ5GU02AIBZAB47MQQ)
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on March 29, 2006, 05:56:15 pm
Jump and hold down. You eventually start floating down. Say, is there a shortcut I don't know? How can I improve?
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on March 29, 2006, 10:19:35 pm
Ohhhhhh yeahhhhhh..... There is one. It kicks ass. It's hard to do.

But I'm not telling till I figure out how Blaze is supposed to beat Sonic on Water Palace 1.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on March 30, 2006, 12:34:50 am
Hehehe, now Google has it too (Very Quick).

Oh, can you at least give me a hint? Like... where it occurs in the video. I'll give credit in the comments! ^_^

And, I'll give you this wonderful tasty cookie: (;.')


And Nacho too!
.._
/_/
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on March 31, 2006, 11:02:36 am
Hey, if you buy me the Sonic Rush soundtrack and send it to me (with me Paypalling you the money), I'll record a Dead Line 1 (Blaze or Sonic) video. >_>

No seriously.

Alternatively Skylights can do it in exchange for a similar favour on Water Palace 1.

Unless neither of you actually have it (I only assumed you did because you used music from it in the video). In which case I might do so anyway just for the sake of competition.

I will add to this, however, that I also did not know you could do that on the gratings. Nice.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on March 31, 2006, 03:58:12 pm
Okay, a hint. In your low quality video, the uber shortcut begins between 0:45 and 1:00. I don't mean the time on the DS, I mean the time on the video.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 01, 2006, 10:09:12 am
Skylights, does it involve teh rocket?

I'm worried if it doesn't because dat would mean dat I'm missing out on this "uber-shortcut" and yet still have teh record somehow...

There's a much l33ter shortcut earlier in teh level tbh. ;D

[EDIT] Oh my god this is two forums I go 2 dat have retarded word filters up now :'((((
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on April 02, 2006, 01:24:55 am
I...can't... find...it...

Does it exploit a glicth? Is it with the rocket/cannon/rail/enemy, etc? Is it the high or low route? Is it difficult? Do I like cookies? Oh, forget the last one. *Sigh*
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on April 02, 2006, 11:00:05 am
It's like this.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9307/route8te.png (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9307/route8te.png)

Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 02, 2006, 03:44:26 pm
Since you so nicely gave me the link to the Sonic Rush OST rips.

Here's a video of Sonic on Dead Line 1 (http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0JLIJ9PBSFANT06ZF82T8ES7D3) (1:39:52).

Sorry the screens aren't completely clear (especially the bottom one, but thankfully my route doesn't go down there often), but it was hell for me to get the DS at the right angle and be comfortable. I'll try a different camera setup next time (also figure out how to get my sister's camera to take higher res video since it's small too). You can see what I'm basically doing though.

Enjoy! =D

Should I submit this to the TSC database? Rush videos are pretty thin here.

[EDIT] No I am not a Shadamy shipper, despite what my previous two avatars might suggest. ={
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on April 02, 2006, 05:17:18 pm
Another awesome video. :)

First I've ever seen with commentary. :o
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 02, 2006, 05:43:19 pm
Hahaha, in that case, I should totally do more videos with commentary and shoutouts.

[EDIT] Wow, Rolken replied to that email quickly. Video uploading to the database as I type. More to come over the course of the week!
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on April 03, 2006, 10:20:03 pm
...holy.................................................................







































Wow. You win.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 04, 2006, 05:58:03 am
Well come on then, improve your own time! :o I wouldn't have posted the vid if I didn't want people to use the route.

Any specific requests for other vids? (not Leaf Storm 1 lol, I'm not giving that one up easily)
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on April 04, 2006, 04:36:08 pm
I'll try. I can't get the ****** rocket at the start right though. Always hit the wall inbetween the gap.

Diagram:

--------,..........|
............<.......|
__.........>.....|
.....\......<.......|
......|......>......|
......|......<......| *BOOM*
......|......>......|_______
......|........<...............|
......|...........>..____|___
......|o=..........|*BOOM*|
......|..............|_______|
......|
......|
.......\_____________
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 04, 2006, 05:30:23 pm
There's not a great deal I can tell you there: it really is hard as fucking hell. =(

Only advice I can give is that it's slightly easier to pull off if, instead of steering the rocket straight down vertically, you have it at a very slight down-right angle. That way you don't have to turn so far to get into the gap.

Like this (sort of)
..\.............|
...|............|
...|............|
...|............|
...|............|
....\...........|
.....|..........|
.....|..........|
.....|..........|
.....|..........|
......\........._________________
........ \_.......
..............\---------------------
................_________________
................|

Good luck!
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on April 04, 2006, 06:28:27 pm
Holy crap, all SkyLights records have vanished in the space of a few days. >_>

Crowbar, will you get scores for any of the other records other than course times?
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 04, 2006, 06:49:40 pm
Actually not quite, Ben. :O

"New Record: SkyLights got 0:49:89 on Rush / Times / Water Palace 1 (Sonic)"

And I may do other things. Rings appeals to me. Scores doesn't. I might try Bosses for kicks. You've cleaned up Time Attack pretty much, though. :(
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on April 04, 2006, 07:15:12 pm
Hey, sue me. I like to do other things too you know.

Plus, I like how this guy's the first guy to put up a good challenge in a long time, so rar to that.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 05, 2006, 11:06:37 am
Nice damn job tieing WP1 back, SL. @_@

I tried to beat it again and get it on video, but the best I could get was this (50.72, ugh).

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=028FP9O...8T01TENW1OFLQPB (http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=028FP9OSMJ98T01TENW1OFLQPB)

Resolution's larger than the last one, but unfortunately I'm malcoordinated and the left edge of the screen gets cut off for most of it. :\ You can still see what I'm doing but it's annoying. Does it mean it won't be eligible for TSC's collection?

Also, warning, I cuss at the end cuz I was trying for this most of the morning and was frustrated.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on April 05, 2006, 02:45:33 pm
Oh nice, I didn't know about that shortcut you did at the end. :P I'll wait till you beat my time though before I do better though. If you can't, well, we'll just be tied for awhile I suppose. No harm there.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on April 05, 2006, 03:35:44 pm
Nice Water Palace 1 video. Lots more crazy stuff I never would have thought of. O_o
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 05, 2006, 08:10:14 pm
Another one here. I said I wasn't going to do it, but I figured I would since I got a new record (which Ben tied minutes after, goddammit). 37.93 on Leaf Storm 1 as Sonic (http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RZ1A3RPKSNLC0NA7KH989H036).

Deluxe version, featuring bonus footage! (not much)

I'll get vids of LS2 tomorrow, and WP1 Blaze.

Nobody minds I've like, claimed this thread, do they? =/
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on April 05, 2006, 08:26:58 pm
Lawl at another tie. :P

Nice vid though. I however, am never competing in this level again, as all I get for my trouble is third place and a dead thumb.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on April 06, 2006, 05:33:35 am
I'll download the video now and see if our runs were nearly identical. :P
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Bilan on April 06, 2006, 05:46:45 am
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37.93
 (http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RZ1A3RPKSNLC0NA7KH989H036)
[snapback]11422[/snapback]

That owns hard.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on April 06, 2006, 03:19:02 pm
This topic is basically turning into a Sonic Rush general discussion, so I'll post proof here.

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5087/benb17ls137778xw.jpg (http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5087/benb17ls137778xw.jpg)
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 06, 2006, 03:59:24 pm
Good job, man! That must be pretty much a perfect run! :O

Recording more vids at the moment. I've got WP1 Blaze done (best vid I've done so far in terms of quality and execution of the strat). Gonna do LS2 in a few moments. X)
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on April 06, 2006, 05:23:48 pm
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Good job, man! That must be pretty much a perfect run! :O

Recording more vids at the moment. I've got WP1 Blaze done (best vid I've done so far in terms of quality and execution of the strat). Gonna do LS2 in a few moments. X)
[snapback]11439[/snapback]


Thanks :) . I wonder if this is the fastest strat though, or if something even faster will be discovered again. :p

I look forward to seeing more videos, I wish I could make more that easily.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 06, 2006, 06:39:19 pm
Speaking of which.

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PKYZMR...NZ06VWLI5QV9CGW (http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PKYZMRZ2JHNZ06VWLI5QV9CGW)

This is a zip containing three videos: Water Palace 1 Blaze, Leaf Storm 2 Blaze, and  Leaf Storm 2 Sonic, the latter being the only one that isn't a new record!

Hope it doesn't seem like I'm bragging at the end of the WP1 vid, I was just really surprised to beat Skylights's time by such a big margin, especially since I was only really going for a half-decent run for the vid.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on April 07, 2006, 01:18:29 pm
Nice Videos. That WP1 run looked very solid. :o

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7435/benb17ls137645ga.jpg (http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7435/benb17ls137645ga.jpg)

Enough Leaf Storm 1 now. >_>
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 07, 2006, 01:52:14 pm
YES I AGREE THAT'S ENOUGH. =(

I'm just gonna let you have that one for a while, I think. Jesus Christ, man.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on April 07, 2006, 03:39:08 pm
Just started playing Leaf Storm 2. I found a slightly better strat for Sonic at the start, I'm not sure if you know about it or not, it wasn't in your Sonic video.

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15DS2RY...DZ2B21W0BLN1TPI (http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15DS2RYS9HHDZ2B21W0BLN1TPI)

Basically just gets you a full boost gauge earlier on.
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on April 09, 2006, 05:47:01 pm
...uhh...I'm screwed.

*Thinks to self: "All my dreams! NOOOOOO!!!!!"*

Note to Self: Kidnapp Crowbar, make him do the run and says that was me.

Edit: Wait a sec... WTF?!? At 0:06, there are...rabbits?!? (Second Video). Why did they appear?!?
Title: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 09, 2006, 06:05:04 pm
....

You didn't know you can finish off a set of tricks with the A button after pressing B at least twice?

Didn't you read the manual? XD
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on April 14, 2006, 01:18:01 pm
ROFL. Doesn't really matter though...

Yeah. I think I'm taking a break with Sonic right now.




*In Terminator Voice* I'll be back.
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 16, 2006, 12:34:07 pm
Aarpeegee asked for an Altitude Limit 2 Sonic video.

I deliver.........sort of.

http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2SSSOLCC4B96X28T2EXWI7DDQ3

Enjoy?

P.S. Won't be submitting this one to the site. ;P
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Bilan on April 16, 2006, 02:45:31 pm
Serious lol.

And yay you said 'fuck' for me :D
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on April 17, 2006, 03:53:06 am
*Shivers from the swearing*


Apart from that... XD brilliant. Still 50x better than mine.
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on April 20, 2006, 09:34:07 pm
I feel cheap not saying something about this, so here. I've discovered a shortcut in Dead Line 2.

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c179/SkyLights1/wtfshortcut.png)

If you can't tell what the image is saying, let me put it in words. Somehow, some way, you can skip that door. I've done it about ten times. I haven't got a clue at all how I'm doing it though... :( Reminds me of a shortcut in Mirage Road 1. My guess as to how I can skip the fight sequence is that I'm going at a particular speed where it moves me from the front of the object that starts the sequence to the position exactly after it... but that's just a guess. And it'll annoy the crap out of me if that's what it is, because then this shortcut will be luck based. :(

I dunno. I'll set this stage on my list to play the crap out of now, so I can figure out what it is.
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 21, 2006, 06:00:12 am
I've found that as well, but I also cannot figure it out.

I think I know what triggers it though. It's if you come off the weird sideways gravity grills in such a way that you're still "sideways" as you go through that room, so you don't trigger the fight with the robots. I've done it twice as Blaze (possibly helped by her hovering ability) and that's it.

Judging by your Sonic time it looks like you might've figured it out already, though.
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on April 21, 2006, 06:56:41 am
I think you may be right about that, cause of how you can't hit that spring when you jump off the rope vine when Sonic/Blaze are more in front of the level. There's a similar effect sometimes in Dead Line 2 when I don't hit the spring after that door sometimes.
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Groudon on April 21, 2006, 07:35:32 pm
Aarpeegee asked for an Altitude Limit 2 Sonic video.

I deliver.........sort of.

http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2SSSOLCC4B96X28T2EXWI7DDQ3

Enjoy?

P.S. Won't be submitting this one to the site. ;P

DUDE!

The first rail... that is so insane!
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on April 22, 2006, 01:41:04 am
I'm back... for a moment or too. I'm tired but I'll say this:

I've got SA2B and SA, so I'll probably be quieter. Finally, it's my birthday tomorrow, so DON'T forget! ...ahem. I mean, PLEASE don't forget. ^_^

Oh, and SA = GG Sonic games too.
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on April 26, 2006, 08:33:03 pm
I found something cool in Leaf Storm 1, but useless.

Just try this and see what happens. :P


(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c179/SkyLights1/useless1.png)
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 26, 2006, 09:20:24 pm
I would but I don't have my DS here. >_>

I will, however, congratulate you on taking back the championship! :O
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: DaDude on April 26, 2006, 11:29:52 pm
Heh, my DS has venished too... so what happens?
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on April 27, 2006, 03:52:38 pm
Well, the screen shakes, the rush effect sprite switches screens for a brief moment, and if you're lucky, the spring on the wall disappears, and if that happens, you can't use the rush move or grind the rail there. Like I said, useless for time attacking, but still cool. :P
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Bilan on April 27, 2006, 05:36:07 pm
....there's like, more than one goal ring in LS1? <_<
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on April 27, 2006, 09:16:45 pm
Well that's why it says the first goal ring. :P

Or checkpoint. Whatever. Same thing, unless you're thinking of that ring at the end.
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Bilan on April 28, 2006, 12:50:48 pm
...
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Magnezone on April 28, 2006, 03:56:55 pm
Oh sue me. I screw up like that all the time. :(
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on April 29, 2006, 01:32:15 pm
Theres 1 thing I don't understand on Leaf Storm 2, how do you go up those spiral things so fast.

Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Groudon on April 29, 2006, 01:46:42 pm
I guess you need to be going a certain speed and (by the looks of it) be holding in X or Y.
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 29, 2006, 04:02:29 pm
This is kind of a quirk with the physics unique to this game. You need to get momentum from jumping down off the ceilings of loops, jumping at the bottom of (preferably steep) slopes, and falling large distances onto slopes. This is the one way you're ever going to go really fast in this game, much more so than just boosting or running down hills (as works in the Genesis games). In fact, it's very easy to achieve a speed at which boosting makes no difference at all.

There is also another quirk that means that even though you will often slow down in midair, once you hit the ground again you'll zoom off at your previous pace (or close to it). You've seen this yourself in Zone X1, where you come fairly slowly off the last loop, but once you land you're running quickly again.
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on April 29, 2006, 05:53:56 pm
I just noticed why, I let go of boost whilst I was falling from the top of the loop.

Edit:

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/966/59600ji.jpg)

Yay. :D
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on April 29, 2006, 06:40:12 pm
Rofl

You are such a ho.

Congrats being the first to sub-1-minute it. :D
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on May 03, 2006, 09:52:10 am
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4736/benb17ls18hf.jpg)

Now someone will probably beat me with a 36"xx... >_>
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on May 03, 2006, 11:03:22 am
Oh my God.

Slow the fuck down. D: Jesus. Are there any strat improvements in there or just polished execution?
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on May 03, 2006, 11:10:22 am
I still do the beginning bit the same as in my 40"43 video, I'm fairly sure it is faster. Other than that, its exactly the same as what you do in your video.
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Crowbar on May 04, 2006, 07:22:29 pm
Woah, who's this ChrisB guy who's come out of nowhere to take it?

Speak up, man! :O For some reason trying to look at your records page brings up a 404.
Title: Re: Dead Line Video
Post by: Ben on May 05, 2006, 05:34:43 am
He added me on MSN asking for help with Leaf Storm 1, so I basically told him the whole strat in detail...

~2 weeks later he says something like 'hi, I think I beat your time'...

So I play it again and beat him back. Then just 2 hours after seeing I beat him back, he beats me again by "03, and somehow improves his  best time to the 2nd checkpoint by "30!

:(