Obviously this means we need to make him more evil, less prone to side-switching, and better at designing enemies. Let's return to those Buzz Bombers. :(
Robotnik is probably the most poorly managed video game character I can think of. Firstly they change his name after we've all known him as Robotnik for the past ten years (don't start on the Japan/US debate). Secondly, he seems to have developed the "support the winning team" attitude. In other words, when his latest creation gets out of control (read: Chaos, Biolizard, Metal Madness, G-mel...) he switches to Sonic's side.
I'm more inclined to call Shadow a villain than "Eggman" at this point in time. :(
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Word.
Problem is they've probably gone too far to go back on it now. :(
And doesn't this belong in Deep Thoughts?
The name Eggman is almost as old as Sonic 1. Saying that that name is a cause for bad enemy design is implying that the enemies are worse in the Japanese versions of all games where we had his name as Robotnik compared to Western versions. Which is a lame implication.
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Yes, the name argument is the dumbest one. Everything else is right, but you can't blame Sonic Team/SEGA because they decided to stop all of the stupid story differences that were introduced in the American versions of the games. I mean, they were on a completely different planet for god's sake.
Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik...
planet mobius has the best info on him so far, IMNSHO... if you haven't checked them out (such as not knowing who Ray is), I reccomend them... it's a good show of what "official" stuff for him is
further, do we count the comics, or the games?
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If this was like a GameFAQs Sonic game board, you'd be all set to be exploded by the various vets right about now.
I basically go for a 'keep the games and comics and cartoons separate' take. If it's made by someone else, it's a different continuity. Or should be. I.e. Before you say it, Eggman being called Robotnik in the Archie comics is not a reason for how that 'should' be his real name, and don't even bring out the StC Eggman origin story.
cmiiw, but the manual calls him Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik, doesn't it?
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Manuals from Sonic Adventure onward tend to (but not always). See, I guess someone at Sega or Sonic Team decided that having international variation was lame (which it kinda is), so they merged the Western name (Dr. Ivo Robotnik) with the Japanese name (Dr. Eggman). I don't know if they did the same to the Japanese versions of modern games.
Thinking about it, it would not surprise me if the choice to use the Eggman name in Western versions of the game came about because of the introduction of lyrical character themes... Wait, in Adventure, Eggman's is instrumental isn't it... *shrug*
^ Sonic games never took place on Mobius. They always took place on Earth. But yeah, Badniks>Egg Pawns.
And there were badniks in SA2B.
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Badniks weren't in sa2. Those robots were made by gun. Also sonic 1 and 2 took place on mobius. Here's where each sonic game took place.
sonic1=mobius
sonic2=mobius
sonic3=angel/floating island
sonic chaos=mobius
sonic triple trouble= floating island I think
sonic cd=mobius
sonic adventure=earth
sonic adventure2=earth
sonic heroes= earth
shadow=earth
I know that's not every one but oh well.
^ Sonic games never took place on Mobius. They always took place on Earth. But yeah, Badniks>Egg Pawns.
And there were badniks in SA2B.
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Badniks weren't in sa2. Those robots were made by gun. Also sonic 1 and 2 took place on mobius. Here's where each sonic game took place.
sonic1=mobius
sonic2=mobius
sonic3=angel/floating island
sonic chaos=mobius
sonic triple trouble= floating island I think
sonic cd=mobius
sonic adventure=earth
sonic adventure2=earth
sonic heroes= earth
shadow=earth
I know that's not every one but oh well.
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buddychaos was right, you're not. Badniks are in every SA2 level related to Eggman (like his base in the pyramid and around it). And if you paid a bit of attention you'd know that Sonic games have always been on Earth. Mobius = Sega of America crap that's been cancelled.
buddychaos was right, you're not. Badniks are in every SA2 level related to Eggman (like his base in the pyramid and around it). And if you paid a bit of attention you'd know that Sonic games have always been on Earth. Mobius = Sega of America crap that's been cancelled.
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I dont think Sand Ocean has any badniks, and thats related to Ol' Eggy and his Pyramid Base :(
EDIT: Actually it'd be kinad retarded for Eggy to be attacked by his own badniks. Point still stands though :P
buddychaos was right, you're not. Badniks are in every SA2 level related to Eggman (like his base in the pyramid and around it). And if you paid a bit of attention you'd know that Sonic games have always been on Earth. Mobius = Sega of America crap that's been cancelled.
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I dont think Sand Ocean has any badniks, and thats related to Ol' Eggy and his Pyramid Base :(
EDIT: Actually it'd be kinad retarded for Eggy to be attacked by his own badniks. Point still stands though :P
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Not to mention that he wasn't established yet (IIRC) so the same goes for his badniks.
Just do as if I didn't say "every". >_>