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Title: American Society is Crumbling as I Speak
Post by: General Throatstomper on March 03, 2006, 03:32:44 pm: I recently had the candid unpleasure of having to participate literary discussion of Ray Bradbury's masterpiece, Farenheit 451, by a bunch of sniveling 9th graders with inflated egos, an exorbitant level of self-reverence, and the attention spans of the lowliest sub-moron with a horrible twitch. A point can be made that I myself fall into that category, it's impossible to disprove one way or another. Also, that last sentence was an allusion. Albeit, a reworded allusion, but the point stands that you should recognise it on contact. Perhaps on point, but I digress.

Throughout this festival of idiocy, the butchering of a work, a recurring theme I heard from the participants (they were American students) was that Ray Bradbury's society could never develop, that there could never be a dystopian empire such as that depicted. The irony being that one the recurring themes of the story is that the ignorant can never recognise their own ignorance.

I interjected at this moment, and began to talk about how the declination of society has allready allowed for Bradbury's nightmare to become a reality (eye of the beholder, I suppose). They disagreed, thought that things had made a drastic change since the writing of Farenheit. Surely with television and the internet, people can absorb more information, learn about new topics, expand their horizons. Thought is encouraged, not frowned upon, in this meek malignant myriad of modern memorandic media. They insisted that the majority of Americans were well versed in politics, foreign affairs, internal affairs, and philosophy. According to them, advertisements and other vapid scenarios are easily blocked out by all who watch them, meaning they have no adverse effect on thought (note that the words "advertisement" and "adverse" share the same root, the Romans knew quite a bit). Guss again, morons, or perhaps you would like to guess again.

They attempted to refute my points, things were said, and the discussion ended. So, doing what I always do when I want to prove people wrong, I devised a test. A real test, one that should really be incorporated by scantron. I call it "The Survey of Incopetence". It does just that, forcing people to confront their own ignorance. Take this test to show just how enlightened, or most likely not, you are. For full effect, you should be American, but I'm sure that it can be universally applied to unroot the universal ignorance of the world. Do not use Wikipedia, Google, or any other source. You're being a hypocrite and seemingly increasing your own intelligence. And on.

The Survey of Incompetence

1) Name 4 countries from each continent (excluding Australia and Antarctica).
2) Name 2 currently declared wars that do not directly involve the United States.
3) What is the difference between socialism and capitilism?
4) What is the core point of anarchism?
5) What is the Sudan?
6) Who is the president of the United States?
7) Who is the chief prime minister of England?
8) Who is the chief prime minister of Canada?
9) Who is the leader of Russia?
10)In what year did the Soviet Union officially collapse?
11)What type of government is the United States?
12)What type of government is England?
13)Who was the first winner of American Idol?
14)Name 8 reality shows.
15)Name 10 actors.
16)When was the last civil uprising in France?
17)How many people are there on Earth?
18)Name 1 soap opera.

The Results
After the survey, I compiled a list of how many people got each question right/wrong (test administered to 25 people). Here are the results, making me a little uneasy with these future administrative individuals having access to nuclear weapons:

1)Right:10 Wrong:15
2)Right:0 Wrong:25
3)Right:8 Wrong:17
4)Right:2 Wrong:23
5)Right:14 Wrong:11
6)Right:25 Wrong:0
7)Right:16 Wrong:9
8)Right:0 Wrong:25
9)Right:0 Wrong:25
10)Right:10 Wrong:15
11)Right:0 Wrong:25 (It's not a democracy!)
12)Right:0 Wrong:25
13)Right:18 Wrong:7
14)Right:25 Wrong:0
15)Right:25 Wrong:0
16)Right:1 Wrong:24
17)Right:12 Wrong:13
18)Right:25 Wrong:0

I did not just use the test on the students, but on the teachers as well, 8 of them to be exact. The supposedly intellectual sect of society which clearly isn't. Americans pay more attention to themselves than the outside world, demonstrated by the correct culture questions, which is most dangerous. The fact that the majority of people didn't know that France is on the verge of being overthrown by its own citizens sets off an alarm.

I can't speak for other areas of the world on this, though, which is why I want the feedback/results of the test from people residing other countries. Also, note that the I realise full well that these results are not indicative of every individual in America, there are still some intelligent people that live there. I also am not calling you an idiot if you don't get the important questions right, I'm just demonstrating the point that subliminal advertisements have a larger effect than most people think.
Title: American Society is Crumbling as I Speak
Post by: PsyBorg on March 03, 2006, 04:30:27 pm: Quote
I recently had the candid, suicidal unpleasure of having to participate in sexual discussion of Ray Charles' masterpiece, Global Warming Does Not Exist, by a bunch of hip-hop muthafuckas with inflated emos, an exorbitant level of self-discussion, and the attention spans of the lowliest sub-moron with a horrible twitch (a.k.a. Big the Cat). A point can be made that I myself DEFINITELY fall into that category, it's impossible to disprove one way or another. Also, that last sentence was crawling in my skin. Albeit, a reworded bugger, but the point stands that you should recognise it on contact. Perhaps on point, but I digest.

Throughout this festival of idiocy (which I, of course, participate in thoroughly), the butchering of a rehabilitated rhinoceros, a recurring theme I heard from the participants (they were American students) was that Ray Charles' society could never develop, that there could never be a quaker empire such as that depicted. The steel being that one the recurring themes of the story is that the ignorant can never recognise their own nonignorance.

I interjected at this moment, and began to talk about how the declination of society has already allowed for Charles' best dream to become a reality (eye of the boulder, I suppose). They disagreed, thought that things had made a drastic change since the writing of Global Warming Does Not Exist. Surely with vampirism, people can absorb more blood, learn about old topics, expand their horizons (multi-definition here, and yes, the perverted one included). Thought is encouraged, not frowned upon, in this meek but awesome myriad of modern communist media. They insisted that the majority of Americans didn't give one fuck about politics, foreign affairs (again, multi-definition), internal affairs (still multi-definition), and philosophy. According to them, advertisements and other rapid scenarios are easily blocked out by all who watch them, meaning they have no pen-written effect on thought (note that the words "pen" and a certain other word share the same root, the Romans knew quite a bit). Well, gussy and gussy again, morons, or perhaps you would like to gussy again.

They attempted to refute my points, things were said, and the discussion ended. So, doing what I always do when I want to prove people wrong, I devised a test. A real test, one that should really be incorporated by scantron. I call it "The Survey of Copetence". It does just that, forcing people to confront whatever the hell the felt like confronting. Take this test to show just how enlightened, or most likely partially, you are. For full effect, you should be American, but I'm sure that it can be universally applied to unroot the Universal Studios of the world. Do not use Wikipedia, Google, or any other source. You're being a hypnotist and seemingly increasing your own intelligence. And on. And off. And on. And off.

The Survey of Copetence

1) Name 4 countries that are in my head right now.
2) Name 2 currently undeclared wars that do not directly involve the United States.
3) What is the difference between socialism and socialism?
4) What is the core point of Golden Archism?
5) What is the Saddam?

yada yada yada

The Results
After the survey, I compiled a list of how many people got each question right/wrong (test administered to 25 people). Here are the results, making me a little uneasy with these future administrative individuals having access to nuclear weapons:

1)Right:10 Wrong:15
2)Right:0 Wrong:25
3)Right:8 Wrong:17
4)Right:2 Wrong:23
5)Right:14 Wrong:11
6)Right:25 Wrong:0
7)Right:16 Wrong:9
8)Right:0 Wrong:25
9)Right:0 Wrong:25
10)Right:10 Wrong:15
11)Right:0 Wrong:25 (It's not a democracy!)
12)Right:0 Wrong:25
13)Right:18 Wrong:7
14)Right:25 Wrong:0
15)Right:25 Wrong:0
16)Right:1 Wrong:24
17)Right:12 Wrong:13
18)Right:25 Wrong:0

and lol dont sue me kthxbai
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I understand your point. I knew the Quaker Empires would eventually come...
Title: American Society is Crumbling as I Speak
Post by: Tails47 2 on March 03, 2006, 04:45:09 pm: I want to try your quiz just for fun:

The Survey of Incompetence

1) Name 4 countries from each continent (excluding Australia and Antarctica).
NA:Canada
US
Mexico
Newfoundland

SA: Brazil
Chile
Argentina
Jamacia

Europe: France
Italy
Switzerland
Spain

Africa: Egypt
Kenya
South Africa
Nigeria

Asia: Russia
China
Phillipines
Japan

2) Name 2 currently declared wars that do not directly involve the United States.
No Clue

3) What is the difference between socialism and capitilism?
Socialism- Cliques and different groups
Capitilism- Gaining success of an idea

4) What is the core point of anarchism?
Free for all basically

5) What is the Sudan?
A group of Middle Eastern Countries including Sudan?

6) Who is the president of the United States?
George Bush

7) Who is the chief prime minister of England?
Blair

8) Who is the chief prime minister of Canada?
Canada has a Prime minister?

9) Who is the leader of Russia?
No Clue

10)In what year did the Soviet Union officially collapse?
1989

11)What type of government is the United States?
Officially we are a Democracy, but some people might call it an oligarchy

12)What type of government is England?
Democracy

13)Who was the first winner of American Idol?
Kelly Clarkson, Duh

14)Name 8 reality shows.
Flavor of Love, Survivor, Big Brother, Surreal Life, Real World, Road Rules, Temptaion Island, Beauty and the Geek

15)Name 10 actors.
Mel Gibson, Hilary Swank, Jack Nickleson, Reese Witherspoon, Heath LEger, Jake Gylenhall, J. Lo :), Lindsey Lohan, Jouquin Phoenix, Haley Joel Osmond

16)When was the last civil uprising in France?
French Revoloution

17)How many people are there on Earth?
6 billion+

18)Name 1 soap opera.
Days of Our Lives
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I agree with you that most American don't know other country's affairs (unless they are natural disasters, then we help them), but I think that we should not know their buisness and they should not know ours. Grade me cause I want to see how I did. Thanks!
Title: American Society is Crumbling as I Speak
Post by: Bilan on March 03, 2006, 05:15:43 pm: Quote
2) Name 2 currently declared wars that do not directly involve the United States.
No Clue
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Does the Arab-Israeli conflict count?
Title: American Society is Crumbling as I Speak
Post by: F-Man on March 03, 2006, 08:00:13 pm: *yawn*
Title: American Society is Crumbling as I Speak
Post by: Rolken on March 03, 2006, 08:13:00 pm: No. Really, 'declared war' is a technicality more than anything these days; I can think of plenty of conflicts but have no idea if war is actually declared in any of them.

The United States IS a (representative) democracy, and England IS a (constitutional) monarchy. And the notion of France being on the verge of overthrow is just ludicrous. Iraq maybe, France no.

Do you want to get people interested in foreign policy or just prove how dumb everyone is? Because telling people they're dumb has never been an effective motivational technique.

Plus most of the things you talk about aren't actually important. If you want some real relevant crises, look at the trade deficit, oil reliance, math and science learning, Iraq stability, Western-Islamic tension, avian flu, nuclear availability, etc; the list is endless...
Title: American Society is Crumbling as I Speak
Post by: Shadow Wedge on March 06, 2006, 07:46:30 pm: ...Canada doesn't have a chief Prime Minister. We have a (singular) Prime Minister. The 'chief' adjective is superfluous.
Title: American Society is Crumbling as I Speak
Post by: CosmicFalcon on March 08, 2006, 01:55:11 pm: Quote
...Canada doesn't have a chief Prime Minister. We have a (singular) Prime Minister. The 'chief' adjective is superfluous.
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Ditto for the UK. Ditto for any country with a parliament, I believe.
Title: American Society is Crumbling as I Speak
Post by: supergenesisman on March 14, 2006, 06:39:41 pm: Wow, everyone now knows the U.S is F***'d up and the world for that matter. I've known this for a long time, but it looks like people are too stupid to figure this out. In about 50 years the U.S will be totaly corropt and the earth and all of us will die. Well i'm looking forward to that. And global warming does exist, and that will kill us all, It's pretty obovious if you think about it... The last thing i'm saying is that 1: The U.S is corupt and 2: i do have issues if your asking your self. WE WILL ALL DIE IN 50-100 YEARS..... Or so it seems.

Thanks for lestening,
Supergenesisman
Title: American Society is Crumbling as I Speak
Post by: Bilan on March 15, 2006, 02:40:33 am: Quote
WE WILL ALL DIE IN 50-100 YEARS..... Or so it seems.
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OH SNAP! I BETTER GET ROUND TO ACTUALLY TAING BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!