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Welcome Center => News and Updates => Topic started by: Thorn on October 31, 2012, 04:35:57 pm
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After the TSC Marathon ended, we talked about the possibility of a smaller event just after Christmas (about the only time that our audience would have time off from school and the like). With November starting, we need to plan now or never if we want it to happen, and if we think that it shouldn't happen, that should be addressed too.
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Overview
The rough ideas that I had before were for a short marathon from December 27 to 30, from 5 PM to 10 PM EST as opposed to the 2 to 10 runs from before. We can use the extra three hours for bonus streams beforehand if so desired, taking donations again for those (as they were the number one donation driver last time), and still have after-hours streams if people donate and request them. We need to be careful in our game choices if we want these streams to be a regular occurrence, being sure not to wear out our options: good choices would be games that we didn't run last time, games that were extremely popular with viewers and will always be, and games that weren't viewed much because of scheduling mishaps (e.g., Ristar and NiGHTS caught some viewers off-guard by starting at 1 PM instead of 2 PM).
We should be able to put this together without the eight months of planning the other marathon needed, as we already know who's capable of streaming and nobody can use the excuse "well I didn't think it would actually happen!" to screw up the planning.
Driving Donations
As stated, the most donations last year were for bonus streams. We could try planning them beforehand and putting them and their required donation totals on the schedule. We also had people ask about donation-based raffles for prizes, which is something I'm open to. I think that digital prizes would work best (gifting games via Virtual Console, for example), but if anybody wants to handle shipping physical prizes, that can be done too. A few people asked about art as prizes such as at SDA's marathons, but I think that is more up to TSC's artists than myself: I only know of Quartz, PPA, and sonikku as good artists, and I think sonikku will be wrapped up making pictures for SDA.
We can have people split up their donations for different things via the comments section in ChipIn, e.g., somebody donates $25 and puts $3 of it towards a game raffle, $12 towards an art raffle, and the remainder towards a bonus stream. We need to keep in touch with donators about what they want, as some donations appeared late last year.
Games
This year's only new game will be Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, and given how well the prequel's stream went, I consider that a definite must. That was followed by Puyo, which had a big crowd but messy organization; I'm okay doing this again only if we can get it organized better and only if the interest is shown beforehand instead of on the day of the event. Tails' Skypatrol was popular last year and is probably a must for the lulz, but Mr. Skypatrol Guy has said that he probably won't be participating in this marathon. A bunch of us have begun playing Sonic Robo Blast 2 online again (myself, RPG, sonikku, Werey, Hyper, and sometimes flying fox), and between the vanilla game and the two biggest fan mods, we can probably find some content here.
Other games that should be played are more obvious (Genesis Sonic games, Adventure series, etc.).
Setting Up the Streams
We had hiccups last year when it came time to actually stream. I'll again be asking for a quality test from everybody that I haven't seen consistently stream well. I ask that self-advertising be contained to the start and end of a person's segments, as we had to see a lot of self-promoting stream borders last time. Any border or marquee or the like should be plugging the charity more than plugging oneself. I'm okay with a picture or two surrounding the stream, but keep it Sonic-related and clean.
Picking a Charity
We had some complaints that Child's Play was about comforting the ill rather than fixing problems. I personally see no issue with this, but if anybody has a charity that means something to them, please speak up.
Please contribute your own thoughts. I'll be leaving for a shift at work, and will check on things after I return if I get back early enough, or tomorrow if not.
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i think we should have generations for definite
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Heh.. I have lotza ideas.. I think..
Anyways... I say we have a small race built into the stream. Like a mini TSC Race Night.
I also say that we should have people with modern (like 2011/2012) computers, as they can process better and allow for better quality streaming without major slowdown or crashes.
Game List
Puyo
Transformed
Generations
06 woot woot
Adventures of course
Genesis games
I put in a vote for Ristar
Maybe NiGHTS
The heck, maybe throw in a storybook (Black Knight isn't as boring as Secret Rings, so that would have viewers)
Now on to other things you mentioned. I suggest a charity for modern genocide or cancer. My grandpa and my best friend both died of cancer, so that's something I want to do. For modern genocide, we can pledge to make bones for the One Million Bones thing. If we get so many donations, we could put that money towards clay to make these bones. I might be able to get my art teacher to fire up a kiln or whatever. She really supports this.Hey, I can draw Shadow very well, so I might be able to do art requests.
Last thing, I SO CALL STREAMING (part of) 06!!!
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I'd like to speak to the complaints about Child's Play. For a lot of these kids, illness is all they've known. They sit in hospital rooms all day fearing bad news and don't really have what we'd consider a normal upbringing. I think it's important not to downplay the psychological aspect that this kind of thing brings on, especially at that age.
Obviously this is a sensitive issue and I don't mean to rag on any charities that we might be considering as alternatives, but taking into account who we are I think Child's Play is a good fit and potential donors will sympathize with the cause more.
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We need some suggestions for raffle prizes! I'll collect all the suggestions in this topic, and later I'll post a poll to determine the top 5-10 prizes to offer. (Note that I'm looking for physical prizes here, not stuff like points codes or Steam gifts.)
Here's some possible ideas:
- Classic Sonic plush (http://www.amazon.com/GE-Animation-Sonic-Hedgehog-Classic/dp/B00292T6HA)
- "The History of Sonic the Hedgehog" (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1926778561)
- Sonic Colors (Wii) (http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Colors-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B002I0IIPY)
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cake
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The idea that comforting the ill isn't a worthwhile cause is not one I can possibly sign up to. I'm happy with most charities but I certainly don't object to Child's Play. It's one of those charities where the amount of money we can raise will make a genuine difference to individual's lives.
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First of all, I think that we should donate the proceeds of this marathon (if it goes ahead) to Child's Play once again, as we are a gaming community (so the charity ties in quite well with our theme) and it would be a good investment on the whole. DarkAura has mentioned donating to a cancer or genocide charity, and these would also be worthwhile options (however I personally think that a cancer charity would attract more donations). If we pick two charities for example, people can pick which charity they would like their money to go to.
In terms of prizes, there are plenty of options available, and I think plushies, toys and games would be the most popular items (although games are system specific). A raffle would work well but items and shipping costs would have to be judged in advance in order to make a decent profit for charity. I'll be quite busy in the upcoming term, and I'll be away for Christmas, but I'm not a terrible artist and I am happy to possibly contribute some pictures (I have a scanner after all, and I can install GIMP or something for editing). Digital prizes would be more cost effective, but possibly less popular than tangible products. I guess time will tell.
Also, from what I've seen, a good handful of players want to stream, so hopefully TSC can pull this one off successfully. After all, the site has experience from the Summer marathon.
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I get the feeling that a few people think I am forcing the marathon to donate to a charity other than Child's Play. I had said that I don't have an issue with Child's Play; I am simply stating sentiments of some other people that commented on our cause, and I am more than happy to continue to direct our donations there.
EDIT: Fuck it; I've removed the statement from the original post. We shouldn't be swayed from our cause just because others don't see the worth.
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I definitely think that we should donate to Child's Play again, although I am unsure whether I will be able to donate towards this marathon. I guess we need to hear more from the streamers and, most importantly, the viewers, with respect to where they want their money to go.
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A raffle would work well but items and shipping costs would have to be judged in advance in order to make a decent profit for charity.
I wasn't planning on using donations to fund the raffle.
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So the raffle and the charity aren't linked?
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So the raffle and the charity aren't linked?
You will have to donate to the charity in order to enter the raffle, but the funding isn't linked.
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So it's like an incentive for people to donate?
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So it's like an incentive for people to donate?
Now you're getting it. :)
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So, when someone wins a raffle, do they get a prize?
* danieldude shot
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No daniel. They get the feeling of winning a luck based event.
Anyways... So is it Child's Play or something else.
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wereycar donation funds
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I'm not actually sure we should do this. I believe Thorn said a couple people wouldn't be available because of AGDQ, and I dunno, the timing just seems weird.
For the record I don't think school/university is actually that big of an issue (as that was Thorn's reasoning for why we couldn't move it back a couple weeks), as there's already a lot of different marathons going on constantly (the Speedrun Spooktacular just wrapped up and there's another marathon going on at numbersmw.com right now), and none of them seem to be having trouble getting either participants or viewers.
In any case, if we do, I'm up for 06 and Generations, as I'll be practicing both of those for AGDQ anyway. I'd actually really like to do all three stories in 06 as I'm going to be practicing all three of them but since AGDQ is a donation war for story choice, I'm not going to actually get to run all three. :P
And yeah, prizes are a must for drawing donations. I'd suggest throwing in the Generations soundtrack as a physical prize, as almost every song in it is amazing and it's a pretty sweet musical celebration of Sonic's entire 20-year history. :P
I also think that this time we should consider having it run 24 hours a day, but meh.
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24 hour would be shit without and IRL meet up because we'd someone up at all hours (when that may or may not be possible) to maintain and switch over streams and dsutff
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Every day we streamed far longer than we planned during the last marathon anyway. I think a 24-hour stream is necessary to maintain momentum through the whole thing.
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I'd suggest throwing in the Generations soundtrack as a physical prize, as almost every song in it is amazing and it's a pretty sweet musical celebration of Sonic's entire 20-year history. :P
Sonic OSTs are always ridiculously expensive unless you get them right when they're released, since Sega never manufactures enough copies. A download prize would probably be more appropriate for this. Sega has published a few OSTs on iTunes, but Generations hasn't been published yet.
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P.P.A. needs to make funny TSC comics for prizes!!
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A continuous marathon (as Umbreon suggested) has additional issues to consider, even if the marathon's not very long:
(1) Unless Thorn can stay up for 1-2 days straight, there would need to be at least 1 or 2 other people willing to run the show in his absence. Preferably at least 2 others, in case sleep and availability don't work out perfectly as planned.
(2) Going around the clock could make it a bit harder to have commentators and runners available at any given time. It depends on how many participants are non-US, though.
The lesser availability of AGDQ attendants could be an issue; in particular, Sylux and DsS covered a lot of games last time. But at the same time, there are plenty of people not attending AGDQ, and this mini-marathon would be another thing for them to look forward to.
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The lesser availability of AGDQ attendants could be an issue; in particular, Sylux and DsS covered a lot of games last time. But at the same time, there are plenty of people not attending AGDQ, and this mini-marathon would be another thing for them to look forward to.
The reason I couldn't help at all last time was because I had no PC at all. However I have one now, so I can stream from the desktop and I have faster internet too. Plus I have a proper headset so no strange noises coming from my end. From the 28th I'll be at RPG's for New Year's which means bang goes my normal sleeping pattern, so I'll be around during the later streams. This would mean that any streaming from the console (I still need to sort this out) I would have to do it on the 27th because I don't think I'll be able to do it at RPG's. But yeah you can count me in this time to help out :o
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A few things,
1) I'm not in... whatever that other stream thing is. I don't even know what
2) I will stream anything (except for SADX, as shown in the race night) if anyone can't participate.
3) I can stay up. I have to study for midterms anyways so it won't hurt much.
4) We should give away those Sonic sheets and comforters. Many people are either at college or school so they have small beds that fit the sheets size and stuff.
5) I say we do that skype thing again.
6) I call being in the skype chat.
7) The race that would be going on that Sunday should be in the stream.
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I propose eveyrone gets ASR:T and we can all race it online together. 10 players online, that's 10 players at once!
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If you want I could do some S3&K. I'm thinking Sonic 100% for lulz and since it hasn't been done before. I got around 1:30 without any practise so I guess I could go down to about 1:20 without much trouble. I could also do Sonic 2 (usually get 26-29 minutes) if you want but there might be other people better suited for that.
If a marathon happens, I know there are a lot of people who know -a lot- about the games they're playing and I'd love some technical and trivia talk during the runs if possible. Come to think of it, some kind of chat game where people can give answers to trivia questions (stuff that can't be googled in 2 minutes) might be fun if we can find a way to do it in a nicely. Perhaps a nice way to round it off towards the end.
Depending on the date I could probably help with management quite a bit if needed.
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Okay. I can definitely put my hand up here.
As most of you know I am all the way over in Aussie Land so I could help cover some of the odd-hours commentary/donation-wise if you guys are serious about gunning 24 hours.
As for what I can do, Unwiished of course (and if FBM or FF don't want to take up the mantle I suppose I could do SCD11 as well). Unwiished happens to have lots and LOTS of little tricks and battle skips to talk about, so the commentary wouldn't just be "Ok....ok.....ok....ok good".
Biggest problem with this is the fact that a full game run borders on 4 hours, would probably be better to slot 4:30 just to be safe. I mean if it's going to be a 3-4 day event running 24/7 then I guess it isn't much of an issue.
As for stream quality testing, I am getting both a Dazzle AND better internet come December. I mean I suppose you could go look at the SCD11 streams I did back in the day http://www.twitch.tv/crypticjacknife/b/306959395 (http://www.twitch.tv/crypticjacknife/b/306959395) but as I said my net is going to get much better in the near future, so if you want the Unwiished quality test you are going to need to wait a bit.
In the very least I know I can help with commentary. You know how to hit me up if you have questions.
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A few thoughts...
I don't think the lack of two or three people from the last marathon that are going to AGDQ will destroy us given that the next marathon is planned to be shorter than the last. I do think that 24 hour streaming will be very impractical for us, as will delaying it into the school year, because of our audience and our potential pool of streamers.
Yes, I intend to get a bunch of people into All Stars Racing Transformed, although we do need to consider console choice. I'm thinking 360 again because Wii U will be too new and because we have less members on TSC with PS3s than 360s.
I am okay with TimpZ and CrypticJacknife handling S3&K and Unwiished respectively, as I really did not want to run those two games last time but was stuck with them. They can afford to be streamed yet again, only well this time.
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Assuming nothing comes up, I should be able to return for commentary. With that said, I don't know if I'd be able to do anything else. November might be a bit hectic for me to see how things will pan out in the future, so... we'll see! I want to actually do a bit more for this but I wouldn't know if that'd be possible.
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I don't know if this is still happening but I think me and Gamble might still be doing S3&K co-op. I will need to get in touch with him at some point and do a test stream to see if it's do-able. If not then yeah TimpZ should go for S3&K, unless I can persuade RPG to do co-op with me.
As for Sonic CD I would love to do a run as tails but I really need to see if I can stream from the console first, if not I know RPG has SCD on steam so I could use that. Once I know I can stream well I will post what games that I can do.
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can i do sonic 2 or sonic generations, my pb for sonic 2 is 28:51, and sonic generations 1 hour 43 minutes, so yeah, I can do other games too if you want
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FF I hope you're not talking about netplay... that shit is the worst
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I heard that openkaillera might possibly be good, never tried it so can't really say. As I said earlier a possible way of doing S3&K co-op would be to do it with RPG as I'm going to literally be with him during 28 December to somewhere in the beginning of January. I'll be seeing him very soon so we can do a test stream if needed and we are doing it. I would need to ask him first. Also there is the added bonus of if one of us can't do a specific trick but the other can, then we can just swap controllers. Plus I know Thorn wanted a S3&K co-op for last marathon but it never happened, because I got let down by my first partner and then my second partner couldn't do it because of uni work.
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The problem with Kaillera is that it has like a minimum input lag of 50 milliseconds for both players and usually it's more than that. If you don't live close to each other it's going to be more like a third of a second for at least one of you. It just doesn't work for Sonic games...
If you can get a good co-op run going then that would be pretty cool though. Entertainment value is a big factor but I really hope you can grind out some practise before if you get the spot.
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I need to say something really important that all of you will yell at me for. I'm concerned about who is streaming. I was thinking about stuff last night and this came to me. Do our audience what the same old same old, or new? Do they enjoy the same people playing games? I think that too many people are trying to do more than one thing. If the same person does every game, it would get very boring very quickly. Imagine this: Let's say I was chosen to do 06, Transformed, Sonic 4, and Generations. Wouldn't you get bored of me by the time my third game came around? Yeah, you would. This is not, "Hey look, I'm good at every game and I should stream them all and hog up screen time". I understand that you want people who are good at a game to stream, but you need new people to stream. This is not a time for the admins and ops to take up screen time. This is a time for the community to bond.
Please don't shoot down this immediately and yell at me like whenever I put in my opinion. Think about it for a bit. If you are strongly against it then say it politely please.
EDIT: lol My four game example was a joke. I didn't mean four games exactly.
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Hey I have a charity thing!! My schoolmates will donate if we do One Million Bones as our charity. Some girls have offered 20 dollars straight cash (which I can put on my paypal to donate). This is one huge box of clay to make bones. I can make all the bones as long as I receive money to buy the clay. One Million Bones is a charity to raise awareness of modern genocide and for genocide victims. My school will personally fire the clay and send them off if we do this. Please consider my offer. Besides, the teachers will love me! Yeah you don't care about that lol.
I like this idea.
EDIT: Some girls went up to me asking if they can help make bones. My school is willingly helping us with this. Child's Play is great but I really don't want to let my school down. They really want to do this. I understand you are content with Child's Play but come on. This -famous- U.S. school is helping a video game site? This is too much to refuse.
EDIT2: All I'm asking for is this one marathon. It could be Child's Play for the rest of TSC's lifespan for all I care.
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Why would we send our money to a 4 month old members school? Sorry maybe if it wasn't you handling the money and stuff we'd. Consider it.
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Lucario: Your school is not associated with gaming, and it's not directly self-supporting (in terms of visibility in the gaming realm or benefit to others) like Child's Play is. Unless we're big enough to warrant talking about on our own, like SDA is, we should just infuse the community with more goodwill. Besides that, donating to Child's Play could be good press for us.
Further, we're speedrunners, we run games with the best people available given the opportunity to. The fact that some people will be running multiple games is offset by the fact that commentary is from a lot of members of the community, some runners are quiet while focusing, some can't talk (no mic or too much background noise, etc.), and the like.
Also, running around Xmas might be fine for a short marathon, but don't forget that SDA's marathon happens in early Jan, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who wouldn't want to run into that with them.
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How experienced should runners be? I'm fairly new to TSC and have been working on Generations. I have a new save file run down to 1:45:48, but I'm not sure if that's skilled enough to be featured on the stream. If not it's cool, I just am trying to get a ballpark skill level.
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Lucario: One Million Bones does have a donation option, but rather than distributing its funds directly to those it wants to benefit or sending goods to those people, it creates a work of art intended to raise awareness of those it wants to benefit so that others may help the cause... at least, this is the case as far as I can tell. I'd honestly prefer to work with a charity that cuts out the middle man and donates money/goods directly.
Aitamen: While I've joked about "competing" with SDA's marathons in the past, we compete with them in the same way that the homeless guy playing guitar for donations at the subway station competes with actual album sales. They can raise $40k in the amount of time it would take us to raise $1k.
glacials: You might consider racing Umbreon, who ran the Generations stream last time.
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I'd be game for getting my butt kicked in a Generations race.
For prizes, plushies would be cool, or maybe prints/posters. There's some cool stuff on Etsy like https://www.etsy.com/listing/106134576/sonic-the-hedgehog-set-of-4-hand-painted and https://www.etsy.com/listing/112853078/sonic-the-hedgehog-title-screen-3d-wall but I don't know if the price is right (the first could be split into four prizes I suppose).
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How experienced should runners be? I'm fairly new to TSC and have been working on Generations. I have a new save file run down to 1:45:48, but I'm not sure if that's skilled enough to be featured on the stream. If not it's cool, I just am trying to get a ballpark skill level.
You're gonna wanna improve a bit more. I get ~1:20 in a bad run.
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Alright, I'll see what I can do.
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in classic i can do pretty much perfect, but modern needs improving for me
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The only thing I'd consider running for the marathon is Sonic 1 as a last resort if no one better wants to. I could put in a decent time with the amount of practice I would do, but I couldn't pull off a couple of the glitches that were done last marathon - not single segment. I would be happy to do a 100% run as well if that's what was wanted, and I would be happy to do it at any ridiculous time it may be needed. But I think it would be better if someone else did it.
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The only thing I'd consider running for the marathon is Sonic 1 as a last resort if no one better wants to. I could put in a decent time with the amount of practice I would do, but I couldn't pull off a couple of the glitches that were done last marathon - not single segment. I would be happy to do a 100% run as well if that's what was wanted, and I would be happy to do it at any ridiculous time it may be needed. But I think it would be better if someone else did it.
we have to have TeeNTee for sonic 1 in my opinion
also when are we planning on doing this marathon? i vote doing it from xmas day over to the new year, and it should also be donated to childs play :D
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we have to have TeeNTee for sonic 1 in my opinion
No, we need the best person who is available and volunteers. If Tee-N-Tee had volunteered, do you think I would have bothered?
No one has said they'll do Sonic 1 yet, so I'm simply saying I can, if necessary.
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i vote doing it from xmas day over to the new year
I think that Thorn's suggestion of running the marathon from December 27-30th is the best idea. Most people (as far as I know) spend time with family and friends on Christmas Day and are unable to participate or watch, and many people are also away, traveling or busy on Boxing Day. The 27th is a good day to begin the marathon because of more people being available, yet it is only two days after Christmas (so it can still be called a Christmas Marathon). Running it five hours a day for four days would be a little much for a Mini-Marathon of this kind, yet four days still provides opportunity to run a good handful of games.
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http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-20th-Anniversary-Action-Figure/dp/B005J6Y056/ref=sr_1_16?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1352402361&sr=1-16&keywords=sonic+action+figures (http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-20th-Anniversary-Action-Figure/dp/B005J6Y056/ref=sr_1_16?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1352402361&sr=1-16&keywords=sonic+action+figures) Possible prize for generations.
http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Anniversary-Through-Action-Figure/dp/B005FNY3HS/ref=sr_1_21?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1352403282&sr=1-21&keywords=sonic+action+figures (http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Anniversary-Through-Action-Figure/dp/B005FNY3HS/ref=sr_1_21?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1352403282&sr=1-21&keywords=sonic+action+figures) Yet another possible prize for generations.
http://www.amazon.com/Great-Eastern-Hedgehog-Plush-12-GE-8958/dp/B006RD2DMW/ref=sr_1_45?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1352403027&sr=1-45&keywords=sonic+action+figures (http://www.amazon.com/Great-Eastern-Hedgehog-Plush-12-GE-8958/dp/B006RD2DMW/ref=sr_1_45?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1352403027&sr=1-45&keywords=sonic+action+figures) Do we need a super sonic plushie?
http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Hedgehog-Sneak-Pose-Anime/dp/B0037GBKY4/ref=sr_1_293?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1352407110&sr=1-293&keywords=sonic+toys (http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Hedgehog-Sneak-Pose-Anime/dp/B0037GBKY4/ref=sr_1_293?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1352407110&sr=1-293&keywords=sonic+toys) and these as well http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Hedgehog-Anime-Pins-Set/dp/B002FJDUYC/ref=sr_1_346?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1352407502&sr=1-346&keywords=sonic+toys (http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Hedgehog-Anime-Pins-Set/dp/B002FJDUYC/ref=sr_1_346?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1352407502&sr=1-346&keywords=sonic+toys)
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lol ive got that classic sonic without the motobug :)
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lol ive got that classic sonic without the motobug :)
I envy you...
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I have the Super Sonic plush. :) Will take photos of it later, along with some of my other plushies.
Most of the Great Eastern plushes are very good quality, and I highly recommend them to anyone looking for plushes. GE also manufactured the Sonic hat included as a preorder bonus with Sonic Colors: http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-The-Hedgehog-Fleece-GE-2380/dp/B003OLUQII/
Did you know that GE also manufactures a similar Amy hat? http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Hedgehog-Amy-Hair-Fleece/dp/B005WO2NI6/
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I would be up to do a SA2B Hero Story race or a solo run. I can currently get around a 46 minute run and I have been trying to go for the record so i'm practicing a lot, so I think my run will be up to marathon standards :D
here is my stream: http://www.twitch.tv/masterc95
Just linking in case anyone wants to see if my runs are good enough
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Thorn: Considering I've given money to a number of street performers and know exactly one person who's ever bought a CD...
And I was more just saying running side-by-side with them might be a bad idea, which if we're running 27-30 doesn't matter much.
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I'll do sonic 1 and 2, if we have to have a race on srl to decide who does it then I don't mind
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MasterC brought up the idea of the two of us racing SA2B. I'm sure other people would be interested too (since it's so popular, and since the HD version came out so recently). So I'm definitely interested in participating. Maybe we could do something like the big 96 exit race on SRL for the #SMW marathon...
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i agree with a race for the marathon
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I would need to have a word with Thorn about having the race for the marathon, since he would get the final saying on it.
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I would love to do sonic 1 for you, but I can't stream. :(
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I'm still up for doing the s3k co-op run with Flying Fox, as soon as we manage to get netplay up and running and see if any lag is workable! Unfortunately we keep missing each other on Skype, hopefully its sorted in the next 24 hours. I've had more time to practice than with Ristar this time and I've been putting more effort in, we must do one of the best, if not THE best Sonic game(in my opinion anyway) of all time justice after all!
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I talked to TeeNtee and he's up for sonic 1 if he either can get help fixing the quality of his stream or if it's deemed acceptable.
Just a heads up since we talked about it a few days ago but he apparently didn't post here about it.
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I can do Sonic Advance 2 again. Maybe with another character if people want, but I feel Sonic is more exciting.
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It looks like I'll be doing Sonic 2 at the moment. My stream is http://twitch.tv/sonicboom737 , you can see the quality there. I hope it's up to the standards required, if not let me know and I'll try and sort it.
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As TimpZ mentioned earlier, i'm poised to do Sonic 1.
The streaming quality can be checked here. http://twitch.tv/teentee314/b/331839973 (http://twitch.tv/teentee314/b/331839973)
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SonicBoom I challenge you to a race to get the Sonic 2 spot ;)!
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Since not much has been said about the marathon itself I took the liberty to collect all the suggestions/offers so far:
Sonic 1 - Tee-N-Tee
Sonic 1 - SonicBoom737
Sonic 1 - Cream
Sonic 2 - SonicBoom737
Sonic 2 - TimpZ
S3&K Coop - Flying Fox, RPG/Gamble
S3&K (Sonic 100%?) - TimpZ
SA2B Hero - MasterC
SA2B - ptorflaxendrosis
Sonic Advance 2 (Sonic) - Combo
Sonic 06 - Darkstarblaze
Sonic 06 - Paraxade
Unleashed Wii version - CrypticJacknife
Sonic CD 2011 - CrypticJacknife
Sonic CD 2011 (Tails) - FlyingFox
Sonic Generations - SonicBoom737
Sonic Generations - glacials
Sonic Generations - Paraxade
I'd be preferring to choose the runners that are the most proficient with the game they're running, like Tee-N-Tee doing Sonic 1 but I guess it could be up for votes as well?
Any other updates regarding the marathon like finalised dates? Making the marathon official? If this is going to happen then it should be advertised fairly soon. Also if I'd get a spot somewhere then I'd like to know so I can get the practise done which I'm sure others would like as well.
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i'd do sonic 3, or sonic 3&k too, but if we have to race for it i dont mind
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Hyper for everything. Also I may try get equipment this time. /false promises
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My opinion is to choose the best we have available for everything unless there is good reason not to. I think it would be missing the point of the marathon if we didn't showcase the best quality we have at our disposal, unless I'm missing the point of the marathon!
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@TimpZ: I offered to do 06 and Generations.
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@TimpZ: I offered to do 06 and Generations.
You're right, I must have missed it in all the text. I edited my post :)
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I'm gonna record a new single segment run of Sonic Generations, because I've got alot better at the challenge acts, planet wisp and chemical plant modern, so I wanna see how good i am now, then I'll let you know, probably wont be better than paraxade but we'll see. :)
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Just saying we should probably start planning this more if it's ever going to happen.
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So, I'm becoming very hesitant about having the marathon during the suggested December 27 to 30 dates for various reasons. While I understand that my request for games not run during the last marathon is tough due to how much we did last time, nobody's volunteered for such a game yet. Twitch.tv is experimenting with new pages, and the new pages may prevent embedding ChipIn or any HTML whatsoever; they have promised alternative donation options, but this would need to be finalized in time. XSplit captures screen regions by disabling Windows Aero, and as such I cannot smoothly screen capture since I've upgraded to Windows 8 (it and SCFH are the *only* incompatible programs on my machine, go figure). I may struggle to get time off from work to manage things, as the entire month of December is considered sacred in retail and a different job offer I was working with seems to have disappeared. I was hoping SonicAD, as site admin, would be more involved, but he is still rarely active. AGDQ pulling some people away from this marathon doesn't overly limit us, but it is a slight limitation in a growing set.
I'm going to look at things after the weekend's over, and if I think I can still put something together quickly, I'll do so. Otherwise, we may aim for the next holiday break around Easter, again keeping it small to not interfere if we make the summer marathon annual.
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To be completely honest, I believe that we should hold off this marathon and make one for Easter. If we were to do so, however, we should start to plan now. Thorn made this topic in the beginning of November and we got squat done. It would be too stressful and too hard to plan this thing now. We are losing a few players to AGDQ(?) that could be good candidates for streaming. This will also allow us for figuring out specifics, and not wing it. We can also focus on stream issues, possible dazzle irritations(D8<) and other things of that nature. It would allow for a great charity stream. There needs to be more planning involved and we haven't really done so yet. If we can pull it off, great, but its unlikely. I'm not doubting your abilities, its just very far-fetched. Maybe some of us can do individual streams during the 27-30? It would be optional and it would be entirely their choice and their responsibility.
My two cents.
EDIT: Looking back at previous posts, Generations has been released on iTunes. Just recently. I downloaded a lot of things.
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I still think that the race nights should be hosted on the TSC twitch channel in order for it to grow so it can hype upcoming marathons more efficiently. It could also present the race for next week and hopefully get more people involved in it so the races grow bigger. Basically I'm suggesting someone e.g. FF hosting it and restreaming the 2-4 people in the lead, perhaps with a skype call with the ones more involved.
Regarding when the marathon takes place, I still think the suggested date is good but I also think we're running out of time so I'm not sure what to take a stand for. It's also kind of out of my hands :/.
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I think that if we get a schedule of exactly what games are going to be done and who can definately do it then there should be no problem to do the marathon on the 27-30 december. Timpz made a list of volunteers and games so I think it's still a possibility. If you need help with anything regarding setting up or organising then I'd be happy to help. :)
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I know I'm a bit behind on this, but, if you guys want, I'd be willing to do SADX and/or Sonic Heroes, but only if you guys want XD In truth, I have nothing better to do around that time(that I know of, anyways...)
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Since this topic was bumped anyway, I should mention that while I think we still don't have the organization for an actual charity event in two weeks, I'm not averse to getting some of the more tenured TSCers on the Twitch channel around that time to stream whatever comes to mind.
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Bump. Considering the number of people that were sad when the Xmas marathon was delayed, I still haven't received any feedback regarding the previous post outside of two people on Skype saying "sure, I could do that". On my end, I'm willing to stream NiGHTS HD and SART if my setup works, and if we're really low on content I'll go outside of Sonic and stream Psychonauts because it's awesome.
If we do this, streamers will need to spread the word, as I'm not going to go around advertising the stream when there's no charity involved -- that kind of advertising usually leads to bans on most forums.
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I'll do Sonic 2 speed run, just pm me on IRC if you wanna know my pb or watch my streaming quality etc :) I'll also do sonic 1, my pb is only like 25 minutes though so there might be someone better for the job :) and I'll do sonic generations, ive got plenty of time on my hands :)
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Well we're hoping to have this smaller marathon some time arouund Easter, the one in December never happened for one reason or another, so if we want this one to happen I think planning should start a little bit earlier.
The things it looks like we've already established is the charity to donate to - Child's Play
For games to run and who can run them, Timpz made a list earlier of volunteers etc, but whether those people can still do it or not because of it being at a different time of year, I don't know, and I don't think Timpz's list is fully updated.
The date's aren't confirmed but we know the general time will be March-April.
Another thing that needs organizing is the prizes, they need to not be too expensive, and it would help if they are digital prizes, so steam copies etc, or Amazon's gift shipping could be utilized. (I'm pretty much saying what gerbil said :P) So any suggestions would be useful - no prizes have really been organized so far in this thread
Maybe thorn could have a say in any extra things I've missed or that he wants to add.
edit: thorn says it'll be longer and more info from him will be available in a few days
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^ I'm going to make a new topic within a few days (once the AGDQ fervor dies down), since one thing I learned from the last marathon was not to trust any posts that are too old and this topic has been around for a while. That said , I don't know where you're getting some of your information about this marathon. Easter's in March, so we aren't initially planning around May, and the only reason the Xmas one was set for about four days was because it was so close to the previous marathon and I wanted to focus on the few games we didn't do. We can make this one however long it needs to be since we've put a good length of time in between it and the previous one.
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Sonicboom: The prizes disscussion goes on in the TSC chatroom. That's why there is nothing here, so we don't need to worry on it in the forums.