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Sonic Central => TSC Race Night => Topic started by: flying fox on October 07, 2012, 10:18:00 pm
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So as not to make a mistake like Heroes, I have started this topic so that you guys can discuss what games you would like to race in. From the previous weeks I would say S3&K and SA2B are a definite.
Totals- Sonic 1: 11 (1)
- Sonic 2: 11 (2)
- Sonic CD (2011): 8 (1)
- Sonic 3 & Knuckles: 11 (1)
- Sonic 4 Episode 1: 5 (1)
- Sonic 4 Episode 2: 4 (1)
- Sonic 4 Episode Metal: 4
- Knuckles Chaotix: 4 (1)
- Sonic 3D Blast: 6 (1)
- Sonic Adventure (DX): 11 (1)
- Sonic Adventure 2 (B): 11 (1)
- Sonic Heroes: 5 (2)
- Shadow the Hedgehog: 4 (1)
- Sonic 06: 5 (1)
- Sonic and the Secret Rings: 2
- Sonic and the Black Knight: 1
- Sonic Unleashed Wii-PS2: 4
- Sonic Unleashed 360-PS3: 3
- Sonic Colors Wii: 5 (1)
- Sonic Generations: 4 (1)
- Sonic 1 (GG/MS): 6 (1)
- Sonic 2 (GG/MS): 4 (1)
- Sonic Chaos: 4
- Sonic Triple Trouble: 3
- Sonic Pocket Adventure: 1
- Sonic Advance: 7 (1)
- Sonic Advance 2: 6 (1)
- Sonic Advance 3: 6
- Sonic Rush: 3
- Sonic Rush Adventure: 4
- Sonic Colors DS: 1
- Sonic Generations 3DS: 0
- Sonic Drift: 2
- Sonic Drift 2: 3
- Sonic R: 4
- Sonic Riders: 3 (1)
- Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity: 2
- Sonic Free Riders: 1
- Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing: 3
- Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing Transformed: 2
- Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing DS: 0
- Sonic Rivals: 1
- Sonic Rivals 2: 1
- Sonic the Fighters: 0
- Sonic Battle: 0
- Sonic Jam: 0
- Sonic Labyrinth: 1
- Sonic Blast: 1
- Tails Adventure: 1
Hacks & Fangames
- Sonic 1 Difficult Delusions: 1
- Sonic 1 Tails: 3
- Sonic 1 Knuckles: 3
- Sonic 1 Amy: 2 (1)
- Robotnik's Revenge: 2 (1)
- Sonic Robo Blast 2: 7 (1)
- Sonic 1 Omachao Edition: 2
- Sonic 1 Megamix: 3
- Sonic 2 Retro Remix: 4 (1)
- Sonic 1 Return to Origin: 1
- Sonic the One Ring: 1
- Sonic 1 Alt: 2
- Sonic Classic Heroes: 1 (1)
- Sonic 3D: No Flickies: 2
- Sonic 2 Secret Rings Control: 2
- Sonic Time Attacked: 1
- Sonic Before the Sequel: 3
- Sonic the Hedgehog 2D: 1
- Sonic Ultimate Flash: 1
Red: Not enough interest in the game for a race.
Default: Game has enough interest but has not been raced yet.
Green: Game has been raced, with the number of races in parentheses.
Orange: Game was intended to be raced, or has been raced, but due to little interest (i.e., 2 or less people), this game has been retired. Can be put back with more interest.
Blue: Game has notably received more interest since, and might be put in the rotation for a test run in the future.
**Special Races, including those that replace scheduled games, are not to be included here.
Current as of Reply #74
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Games that I would race: (may forget some)
Sonic 1, 2, 3K
Sonic Adventure 1, 2
Sonic Advance 1, 2, 3
Sonic 1, 2 (GG) (not sure these would necessarily generate interest)
Sonic Heroes (If I had the game with me at the time - I don't currently)
Sonic Unleashed Wii (If I have game with me)
Sonic Colours (If I have game with me)
Sonic and the Secret Rings (If I have game with me - I don't think it will be very good for racing anyway)
Sonic 3D Blast
Sonic Chaos (I think it would be great fun but I'd imagine lack of interest)
Sonic Rush (DS streaming is an issue of course)
Sonic Rush Adventure (Ditto)
I think that's it.
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I honestly didn't even know there was a Sonic 2 race night. Promotion is an important thing...
In any case I'd race Sonic 1, 2, 3&K, CD, Adventure, Adventure 2.
I might try some of the advance games or a random one for fun. But otherwise these are pretty much sure bets with me.
I also want to get the idea for romhacks out. Stuff like Amy in Sonic 1 is golden.
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Actually I did say that race nights was taken off for a week and there was no official race. A bunch of people just got together to race on that day. That's what I heard anyway.
Yeah tell me if you want any hacks played as well. I wouldn't mind seeing some S1 tails and knuckles going.
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You know what I'm going to say already.
SRB2.
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I'd be interested in racing:
- Sonic Adventure
- Sonic Adventure 2
- Sonic 06
- Sonic Unleashed 360 (with a good goal that isn't beat the game from new file)
- Sonic Generations
- Sonic 4 any episode
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not sure if it even needs to be said, but for what it's worth i'm willing to race anything. i also think sonic 06 is definitely worth a try at some point, since as ppl said before it got a shit ton of views in the marathon. people love to hate that game.
i think consistency might bring up interest more over time anyway. once other people start catching on to the fact that some guys are racing a random sonic game every week i think it will gradually pull in more people even on the more obscure games. it might be wise to stick to the more tried and true games at the start til people start catching on and becoming interested
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Colours Egg Shuttle Maybe? Might work out to be simple.
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I honestly didn't even know there was a Sonic 2 race night. Promotion is an important thing...
It was one where we decided that it was on one day before it happened, then decided to do Sonic 2 15 minutes before it happened. It was just testing out Umbreon's idea of late-in-the-day game choosing, which proved to be chaotic. It's clearly been accepted into canon TSC Race Night history because the Sonic Advance thread is labelled 2D Race Night 3!
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SRB2!!!11eleven!
I'll race most 3D games really. I have them all with me apart from Sonic Heroes, but I'll race that when I get home.
I could race the odd 2D game, that all depends if I feel like streaming it
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I'm out for November, but after that I'll join in any race on the four Genesis games.
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I would like to race these:
Sonic 06
Sonic Advance
Sonic Advance 2
Sonic Advance 3
Sonic Rush
Sonic Rush Adventure
Sonic Riders
Sonic RIders Zero Gravity
Sonic Free RIders
Sonic Rivals
Sonic RIvals 2
Sonic Colors(both)
Games I could join in on
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic 3&K
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Games I don't really want to race
Sonic Generations
Shadow the Hedgehog
Sonic Unleashed(short goals-yes. Long-no)
Sonic and The Black Knight(maybe a multiplayer thing?)
Sonic and the Secret RIngs
Sonic R
Sonic Drift
Sonic Drift 2
Sonic 4 Episode 1
Sonic 4 Episode 2
Sonic 4 Episode Metal
Sonic Chaos
Sonic and Sega All Star Racing(both)
Sonic The Fighters
Sonic Jam
Sonic Battle
Sonic CD
etc.
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EDIT (I've modified the message because i think my previous post wasn't really relevant):
I will try and race every game that is chosen to race on TSC, however here are the ones I would rather race, and look forward to more:
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic 3
Sonic & Knuckles
Sonic CD (Any Version)
Sonic 4: Episode I
Sonic 4: Episode Metal
Sonic 4: Episode II
Sonic Adventure [Sonic Story, Tails Story, Amy Story, E-102 Gamma story]
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Colours
Sonic Generations
Sonic 1 (GG)
Sonic 2 (GG)
Sonic 3D Blast
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So we currently have
[edit: cut, moved to the first post]
Nothing's an obvious shoe-in here aside from the Genesis games and the two Adventures. I'm positive there's more interest than this for a couple of these games, so cmon, more people need to post their race preferences.
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Ok, so I apologize in advance, as some of this post is scattered everywhere.
First, I was thinking of doing a race Saturday night, then a race Sunday afternoon. This js more convenient for others.
Second, I came up with an Unleashed goal. We'd race all Day(as night would be a pain) stages, and EggmanLand. We start from a file that should be either maxed or close in terms of experience for Day Sonic, so it would be more fair.
Third, I think that we should try to make rankings, but not like TRN247. Just make a board that posts the results, and the rankings since for sure we will race them again.
Fourth, continue using the edit the first page thing for promoting race nights.
That's my post. Some of this is a tad off topic and I apologize.
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First, no. IMO we're bordering on doing race night too often as it is and that way leaves like no room for promotion or cooldown.
Second, yes, that's a good goal, it's been brought up before.
Third, we don't need rankings. Race Night is "show up and have fun", not hardcore competition. All race results are automatically tracked on SRL anyway.
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I'll be up for these following games:
Sonic 1 (GG)
Sonic 2 (GG)
Sonic Chaos
Sonic Triple Trouble
Sonic Drift 2
Sonic Labyrinth
Sonic Blast
Sonic R (If the glitch is allowed then count me out.)
Tails Adventure
Shadow The Hedgehog
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Good plan. I'm up for these:
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic CD (2011)
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Sonic 4 Episode 1
Knuckles Chaotix
Sonic 3D Blast
Sonic Adventure (DX)
Sonic Adventure 2 (B)
Sonic Heroes
Shadow the Hedgehog
Sonic Unleashed Wii-PS2
Sonic Advance
Sonic Advance 2
Sonic Advance 3
Sonic Rush
Sonic Rush Adventure
Sonic R
Sonic Riders
Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing
SatSR and the game gear games are a maybe.
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Ok I know I said I didn't want to race but none of my favourite games were chosen. So here is my list and I will try and race if chosen and not very tired at the time due to things happening in real life:
Sonic CD 2011
Sonic 3
Sonic 4 Episode Metal
Sonic and the Black Knight
Sonic 1 GG
Sonic Triple Trouble
Edit: I have edited Umbreon's post with the new posts that came in recently, so that we didn't have another long list on here.
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Guess I should actually detail this.
Games I'd be more than likely to race:
Sonic Adventure DX
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
Sonic Heroes
Sonic 06
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic Colours
Sonic Generations
Sonic and Sega All stars Racing (Transformed also)
Games I may occassionally race:
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic CD (actually enjoy this)
flying fox edit: Added to Umbreon's post
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Is there anyone else who wants to post their list of games they want to see raced? If not I can put up a list somewhere on the board so I/people can chose what game you/they want. Are there any hacks you guys want to race?
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Sonic 1 Difficult Delusions
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Any good "Character in Sonic 1" hack
Robotnik's Revenge
There's probably more but I forget.
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srb2
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Any good "Character in Sonic 1" hack
Robotnik's Revenge
There's probably more but I forget.
Like what? I only played Tails and Knuckles in Sonic 1 so far.
Edit: I guess it doesn't really matter we can make choosing the character as part of the goal anyway.
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Any good "Character in Sonic 1" hack
Robotnik's Revenge
There's probably more but I forget.
Like what? I only played Tails and Knuckles in Sonic 1 so far.
Edit: I guess it doesn't really matter we can make choosing the character as part of the goal anyway.
Yeah, we can. I was thinking mainly of those two, but there is also Amy in Sonic 1. It is now official that TSC loves Amy, so yeah. There are probably more of those hacks that I don't know as well.
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Also S1 Omochao Edition
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I also vote Soni 1 Omochao
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Sonic 1 Megamix?
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What is this heresy with all of you voting for hacks that aren't mine (http://sonic2retroremix.weebly.com/), you're all asking for a ban, why I oughta...
You're all lucky I need to stop typing now to sit an exam or you'd all be in trouble!
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I would've voted your hack, but I suck at it, so I didn't.
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I would've voted your hack, but I suck at it, so I didn't.
what's thorn's hack?
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Hint: Click his link.
(Second hint: Sonic 2 Retro Remix)
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This is the standing for the hacks/fan games so far:
Sonic 1 Difficult Delusions: 1
Sonic 1 Tails: 3
Sonic 1 Knuckles: 3
Sonic 1 Amy: 2
Robotnik's Revenge: 2
SRB2: 4 (It's 4 because RPG voted)
Sonic 1 Omachao Edition: 2
Sonic 1 Megamix: 2
I'm not expecting many to be interested in this, but it would be nice to have hack/fan game night at some point .
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I would've voted your hack, but I suck at it, so I didn't.
You seem to think we're supposed to practice? Far from it! Talk to HyperSonic7701, he can tell you a thing or two about practice.~
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Bahahah I would totally race S1 Omochao Edition just for the hilarity factor
(also SRB2, but I already said that.)
Also if you're still tracking votes for the official games I wouldn't mind playing any of the classic trio of games, Knuckles Chaotix, Sonic CD (all versions), Sonic 3D Blast, Sonic Advance, or any episode of Sonic 4.
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I wonder if it would be worth having a "hack night" where we have like 4 or 5 races back-to-back of various hacks.
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I wonder if it would be worth having a "hack night" where we have like 4 or 5 races back-to-back of various hacks.
Get out of my head I was thinking of this earlier :P
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Possible with short goals/hacks!
Certain hacks/fangames are pretty meaty though (like megamix) and probably wouldnt be ideal
Id totes race in hack/fangame night though
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Well if I see a bit of interest in it (like I am now), I see no reason why we can't have a hack night. I'm trying to think of other hacks that might be fun/interesting to race. So far I can only think of:
1) Sonic 1 Bouncy
2) Sonic 2 XL
3) Sonic 1 Return to Origin
RPG came up with Sonic Time Attacked, said it was good. Can anyone think of anything else and what do you think of those hacks I suggested?
Also adding Thorn's hack to the list. It should be on there.
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Oh, I love Return to the Origin. I also vote for that. A hack night would also be fantastic.
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ME HAZ IDEA
Sonic Generations Mods
kthnxbye
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Generations mods aren't really well-suited for races. They're way too short. Maybe when there are some that are longer than one or two levels.
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The only Generation mod thats even viable is Classic Sonic Adventures, and even that has DUBIOUS things
ie
- you are basically shit out of luck without classic sonics homing attack, though the levels CAN be beaten without them
- a bunch of the classic levels with modern sonic in them crash if you do certain things, also planet wisp is incompletable
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Still waiting for the day where one of my ideas aren't shot down >_>
Anyways.. How about we have some races of other genres during the week?
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Still waiting for the day where one of my ideas aren't shot down >_>
Anyways.. How about we have some races of other genres during the week?
i imagine you could just make a shoutout in irc if you ever wanted to race something else during the week. i don't think they're gonna want to schedule other races during the week, it's already a good amount of work to schedule and promote and keep track of just the one race i imagine.
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Just going through retro looking at the hacks and I saw these which could be interesting:
1) Sonic 3D: No Flickies (http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3D:_No_Flickies)
2) Sonic The One Ring (http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic:_The_One_Ring)
3) Sonic 1 Alt (http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_1_Alt)
4) Sonic 2 Heroes (http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_2_Heroes)
5) Sonic 2 Secret Rings Control (http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_2_Secret_Rings_Control)
Click the links and have a look and see if any of those interest you guys. If so I'll add them to the list.
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Hey, my librarian is helping me make my own Sonic game. Once it's done, should we race it? Still developing the Physics engine to not have a Physics failure like S4E2.
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Not to pick fault but you sort of need at least a basic prototype of your game before anyone can even comment on whether or not its worth playing
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Good point... See you in thirty weeks! lol
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on the thout of generations mods, maybe we could race the unleashed project when it is finished
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^Yes.
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Just going through retro looking at the hacks and I saw these which could be interesting:
1) Sonic 3D: No Flickies (http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3D:_No_Flickies)
2) Sonic The One Ring (http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic:_The_One_Ring)
3) Sonic 1 Alt (http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_1_Alt)
4) Sonic 2 Heroes (http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_2_Heroes)
5) Sonic 2 Scret Rings Control (http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_2_Secret_Rings_Control)
(2), (3) and (4) look very interesting, each in a completely different way. I love the concept of "The One Ring", though to get the most fun out of it, I would avoid playing it at all before the race!
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Sonic 2 Heroes has been superseded by Sonic Classic Heroes (http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Classic_Heroes) by the way. And yes, it's great, and yes, it's worth being on the list.
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As long as we're giving suggestions, Sonic Before the sequel is pretty decent
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Since we're getting into fan games as well. Might I suggest a Sonic The Hedgehog 2D?
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Right I have changed Sonic 2 Heroes to Sonic Classic Heroes as it does sound better. You can play S1 and S2 combined with the 3 characters and you have the element shields in there too. Hopefully Cream147 can find a level select.
As for Sonic Before the Sequel watch the trailer here (http://sonicbts.webs.com/apps/videos/videos/show/14712442-trailer) so and see what you think of it. It actually looks pretty good imo.
Had a look at Sonic the Hedgehog 2D. Watch the video of it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDELNiml8Jk) and tell me if you want to race it. Another game that looks good to me.
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My thoughts on these 5:
1) Sonic 3D: No Flickies
2) Sonic The One Ring
3) Sonic 1 Alt
4) Sonic 2 Heroes/Sonic Classic Heroes
5) Sonic 2 Scret Rings Control
1) Interesting, without the flickies you can just run right to the end. So it should be short (and fun) which is pretty ideal if hax nyt is going to have multiple games.
2) No. Scouring a level for a single ring over and over is the exact opposite of short and fun.
3) No idea, if the level design is fair it could be entertaining. Worth playing beforehand to find out.
4) Don't see the point of this one, as the addition of flying/gliding/elemental shields isn't really going to make all that much difference to the speedrun routes.
5) Maybe worth a look? The idea that you get faster the more points you earn could place a higher emphasis on skillful play and mean that mixing up the routes a bit to earn more points works out better overall.
I'll have a look at the other games mentioned and post my thoughts on those in a bit.
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Ok I think it's pretty obvious that the main games list is done, so after the race I will sort them out. Going to give more time on the hacks list of course.
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I'd like to race any of Mega Drive games, MS/GG games, GBA games + SCD'11 + SPA. Can't or don't wanna race other games atm. >_>
Also, I'll probably race any hack/fangame suggested, though I'm not sure, as I barely played any of them yet.
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I'd Race SRA. That's probably it other than the occassional games that are already on the list.
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Can you put up the list of games? I want to see when 06 is raced. I -need- to be there for it.
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Can you put up the list of games? I want to see when 06 is raced. I -need- to be there for it.
Ok I think it's pretty obvious that the main games list is done, so after the race I will sort them out. Going to give more time on the hacks list of course.
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Sonic adventure dx, sonic adventure 2 battle, sonic advance, heroes.
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My thoughts on these 5:
1) Sonic 3D: No Flickies
2) Sonic The One Ring
3) Sonic 1 Alt
4) Sonic 2 Heroes/Sonic Classic Heroes
5) Sonic 2 Scret Rings Control
4) Don't see the point of this one, as the addition of flying/gliding/elemental shields isn't really going to make all that much difference to the speedrun routes.
Maybe, but then not everyone knows the speedrun routes by heart.
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Progress regarding the rotation list is that it's almost done. I'm pretty sure the 3D list is done, it's just the 2D list needs a bit of tweaking. Hopefully should be done by this weekend or earlier.
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^Don't overwork yourself. If you need help, we can help! We're not that selfish :)
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I'd race:
Sonic 1-3&K
Advance Series
Knuckles Chaotix
Sonic R
Sonic Adventure 1/2 (if I ever get a good GC controller).
Sonic Before the Sequel
Sonic Megamix
SRB2
Sonic 2 Retro Remix
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Now that the rotation has finally been sorted, it's time to work on hack night. Are there any other hacks that people want to race in?
Is the reason we don't have many votes because people don't know the hacks very well? If so you can go on youtube to watch a playthrough of it, play it yourself by going here (http://info.sonicretro.org/Category:Hacks) to download them or I could stream some hacks so you guys have an idea of what the game is like. Just trying to get more interest in this, so I have an idea on how to run hack night.
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Fangames/hacks I would race:
SRB2 and/or The Mystic Realm and/or Tortured Planet
Sonic: Time Attacked
Sonic Before the Sequel
Sonic 2 Secret Rings Control
Sonic 3D No Flickies
Sonic the Pervert
THORN'S HACK TOO I GUESS
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I have two.
Thorn Hack
Sonic Ultimate Flash Game or whatever it is called.
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Ultimate Flash is pretty decent for a flash game but it's also only like 10 minutes long, if that
Worth a look for the hack night if the plan is still 4-5 games though
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thorn hack
srb2
srb2
srb2
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This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNOa5VSp_U) was brought to my attention on IRC. Anyone interested in racing it?
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nah, it doesnt look that good, we should just race the real colours game in a later race
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Fair enough. Zeupar mentioned Sonic 2XL, is anyone interested in racing that game?
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just a few extra games I'd like to race:
Sonic Generations 3DS
Sonic Spinball (16-bit)
Sonic and the Black Night
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I remember going through all the games on TSC with Umbreon and/or Hyper I think and we pretty much decided that we wouldn't race any of the DS games for several reasons. Plus not everyone might have a 3DS, even I don't yet. So I can't see SG3DS being raced, but that shouldn't stop you from finding people on SRL to race with on that game.
Sonic Spinball I could see happening. If we can get 3+ people interested in it, we could try a test race and see if people like it. If so then we'll add it.
Black Knight I know has 4 people interested in it, so we should do a test race of it at some point. Again if people like it we'll add it to the list.
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another thought for a few games that we could race, Flicky, Alex kidd in miracle world, R-Type, Mickey Mouse castle of illusion (SMS version) and ristar, I dont know what people think of racing none-sonic games, although they are still made by sega, just a suggestion.
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Color goes as follow: Green=i would like to run this. Yellow=i could run it, but wouldn't enjoy to. Red=no Interest
games i could run are:
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic 3 & knuckles
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic and the secret rings
Sonic Unleashed (360)
Sonic Generations
Sonic R
Sonic the Fighters
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addition of sonic 1 2013?
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As one of the few people who uses bluestacks, I will agree with Hyper here. The emulator is still in it's beta stage. I know only me, Mastakirby and Sonicboom can stream it well and I only have one major problem. The problem is that I have this one-time setup that keeps appearing and when I go back into the game, my controller has stopped working. Sometimes taking it out and putting it back makes it work again and other times it doesn't, which means I have to restart bluestacks.