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Offline Zurggriff

Sonic Forces Competition Now Live
« on: March 03, 2019, 09:17:50 PM »
Charts for Sonic Forces are now live, so submit your stats before Sonic Forces you.
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Offline SonicandInuyasha

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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2019, 04:26:17 PM »
Is the rule still in place where the first week of competition is video free? If so it looks like I only have rings stats for now.
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Offline Zurggriff

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2019, 07:52:17 PM »
It looks like the post by Zeupar that drops the video requirement still applies
 
During the first week of competition, players don't need to provide video proof for first places, because that would be really annoying. This is a policy that we will apply for any newly added games from now on. Of course, we still encourage you to share your runs with the world. Sharing is caring!

With this in mind I do want to bring up how this played out for the Sonic Mania charts. It is a nice convenience but when the Sonic Mania charts used this rule there were records from the first week of competition that stood for several months and there are still two maxed out ring records, no proof required. This conflicts with the reason video proof for records became a requirement and I do not think relaxing the requirement is a particularly good rule. I could not find a topic in the forums covering the rule (pros, cons, in favor, opposed) so it may be something to consider for future games.
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Offline sonicfind

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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2019, 12:22:15 AM »
You've also gotta take in consideration the length in time between the game's release and the adding of leaderboards. In this case, it was WELL over a year, so the odds that there is no video proof for something is drastically lowered.

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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2019, 12:38:46 AM »
Oh yes, it is time to unleash my ring attack archive baby…

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2019, 12:50:19 AM »
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Offline Vicklaw

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2019, 05:45:00 AM »
Seeing new charts being added to the site, I wonder if it is possible to add more charts for Sonic Mania's DLC. Things to add should be entries for Mighty and Ray and also Encore mode.
I already did some Ring Attacks for Encore mode and I suppose people already made speedruns for individual levels too.

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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2019, 11:58:44 AM »
Seeing new charts being added to the site, I wonder if it is possible to add more charts for Sonic Mania's DLC. Things to add should be entries for Mighty and Ray and also Encore mode.
I already did some Ring Attacks for Encore mode and I suppose people already made speedruns for individual levels too.
This should be the next thing added to the site, I've done quite a handful of IL speedruns with Mighty and Ray as well as plenty of Encore level speedruns with a variety of characters.

Offline Zurggriff

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2019, 08:35:26 PM »
I just realized that I left out a rule that was intended to be in place for ring and score charts:

Stage 13 Casino Forest will have charts with use of the slot machines prohibited.

Currently there are 2 ring stats that may have used slots and 0 score stats that used slots. Do we not want this rule to go in place? No one objected to this rule in the Sonic Forces rankings forum topic.
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Re: Sonic Forces Competition Now Live
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2019, 08:58:21 PM »
I just realized that I left out a rule that was intended to be in place for ring and score charts:

Stage 13 Casino Forest will have charts with use of the slot machines prohibited.

Currently there are 2 ring stats that may have used slots and 0 score stats that used slots. Do we not want this rule to go in place? No one objected to this rule in the Sonic Forces rankings forum topic.
I’d be happy to redo this stage as a traditional RA sometime if you’d like to add this to the rules, no time soon though cuz god I hate how Classic controls in this game. I flat out said in my Stage 13 RA comment “do you really want to see me hit slots for 20 minutes?”

Offline sonicfind

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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2019, 09:13:55 PM »
I'd say that this would be one where recording is definitely needed.
Also, I wouldn't necessarily say to ban the machines altogether, but at least I would keep it to "you can only use a each slot machine once."

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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2019, 09:24:08 PM »
I'd say that this would be one where recording is definitely needed.
Also, I wouldn't necessarily say to ban the machines altogether, but at least I would keep it to "you can only use a each slot machine once."
*Shudders at the thought of adding RNG to RA in Stage 13*

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Offline Zurggriff

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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2019, 11:49:08 PM »
I would prefer banning slot machines all together rather than allowing one use per machine. Limit to one use would be a better alternative to no limit and the randomness it introduces would add to the challenge of getting the highest ring/score total. There are 3 slot machines, as far as I found, and the highest payout is 150 rings, making 549 rings the lowest amount needed from the rest of the level. I was able to exceed this value by a small amount on a run that could have collected a few more rings. I expect that collecting as many rings as possible near the end of the level would be very difficult; a task which would become unnecessary with 3 jackpots or possibly smaller payouts.
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Re: Sonic Forces Competition Now Live
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2019, 05:36:01 PM »
In every level with a slot machine ever hosted on TSC, both scores and ring charts were completely disabled. What makes casino forest a special exception?

Offline Zurggriff

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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2019, 06:55:42 PM »
In my opinion, no charts is the worst option, especially for the score charts where records would not bottleneck at a tie like ring stats. Both, charts without slots or with slots make competition in some form or another possible. There are plenty of other levels where players do not have much difficulty in tying the record. This is not a compelling reason to omit these charts.

Casino Forest is a special exception because I was not around when other slot machine levels were not permitted and could not voice my opinion to include those levels. I plan to set this precedent moving forward. I have also seen requests pop up, buried in the history of the forums, to add casino level ring and score charts for various games.

P.S. I know this is nitpicking but Sonic 2 2013 has casino level charts for rings and scores.
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Re: Sonic Forces Competition Now Live
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2019, 10:49:23 PM »
In every level with a slot machine ever hosted on TSC, both scores and ring charts were completely disabled. What makes casino forest a special exception?
Except for Casino Night in Sonic 2 2013.

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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2019, 08:16:50 PM »
The rules have been updated, prohibiting the use of slot machines for ring and score stats on Stage 13 Casino Forest. Players with stats that do not adhere to this rule may change their stat to one that does. Otherwise, they will be removed shortly.
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