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Title: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on December 21, 2011, 01:51:46 pm
I've brought this up a few times in chat, but I think it's time to start getting ideas together.

Considering that tons of other sites have done successful charity Sonic Marathons (such as Bonus Stage Marathons (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=4826.msg51958#msg51958)), and considering I've spoken to a couple of SDA/TSC members who would back it, I truly think this is something we could pull off. It would be easier now than ever before considering how game streaming and Skype use have become pretty prevalent on TSC. CosmicFalcon tried putting something together a long time ago in this topic (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=3636.msg37592#msg37592), but it didn't really get off the ground. In the interest of not stretching the front page to ridiculous proportions with this topic, I'm going to double-post: front-page readers can click the comments link at the lower-right of this message to view the rest of the topic.

Anybody who has thoughts or suggestions and anybody who wants to contribute or play during the marathon should post. Note that if there's conflict between people wanting to play a certain game, I intend to look at both their popularity on the site and their game rank to make a decision: we want both entertaining gameplay and commentary, not just one or the other.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Thorn on December 21, 2011, 01:52:17 pm
Right, to the specifics!

I really have no preference as to which charity to donate to, although the usual choice for gamers is Child's Play (http://www.childsplaycharity.org/), using a service such as PayPal for donations. More important at the moment is the selection of games, commentators, players, and broadcast times.

I would likely make a TSC Twitch.tv (http://twitch.tv) account and share the username and password with all streamers. Players would log on when it's their time to stream, then log off and notify the next player when done playing. The last streamer of the night would be responsible for telling Twitch.tv to save all of the night's streams for later viewing. While in some cases it would be nice to have players at the same physical location (e.g. any two-player games), most of our on-stream talk would likely be done over Skype. I also intend to broaden our audience by reaching out to some other Sonic Team fan communities such as Sonic Retro (http://www.sonicretro.org), NiGHTSIntoDreams.com (http://www.nightsintodreams.com), and Puyo Nexus (http://www.puyonexus.net) for fangames and hacks, NiGHTS, and Puyo Puyo (i.e. the series we know only as Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine) respectively. If we could work in other Sonic Team games/series like Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg or Phantasy Star Online, that'd be great, but I'm not sure how viable those are for gathering an audience.

I don't intend for us to do the games in any chronological or stylistic ordering so that we don't have, say, a night of all of the 2D games followed by a night of 3D games followed by a night of "who's heard of these, who'll care to watch this" games. I also don't intend for us only to do the games we play on TSC, although we probably won't do every game out there and the below list will be narrowed down.

Games and Thoughts on Them
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Bilan on December 21, 2011, 01:53:53 pm
I'LL DO SONIC06, I'M GREAT AT THAT GAME.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Groudon on December 21, 2011, 01:59:17 pm
I could do Shadow and ASR.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: flying fox on December 21, 2011, 01:59:41 pm
Why wasn't Sonic and the Black Knight mentioned? I can easily do this one since I'm currently planning a speed run for it for SDA and beating the speed run that is on youtube atm >_>
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Thorn on December 21, 2011, 02:15:27 pm
@flying fox: This was listed within Sonic Storybook Series, but I've edited the post and spelled it out to be clearer.

@ Groudon: I can do All Stars Racing too. We can support up to six more people this way (we have the 360 version, for anybody else reading; if a bigger crowd appears on the PS3 version, they can do it instead). Also, I'm editing in that we should avoid the glitch that allows ten-second laps, as it's yet again a case of entertainment versus speed. We're known for speed, but we're trying to entertain to gather donations and skipping most of some courses doesn't really help with that.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: flying fox on December 21, 2011, 02:31:58 pm
Oh sorry I guess that's what I get for speed reading it when I had about a minute till dinner. I think SBK would take about 50 minutes in story mode. I'll know more once I'm done with the plan.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Parax on December 21, 2011, 02:58:23 pm
where's generations :x
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Thorn on December 21, 2011, 03:00:57 pm
^ I meant to make that the last one; adding that now. Although Generations is technically in there as a 3DS game.~
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: flying fox on December 21, 2011, 03:01:52 pm
Oh also I could probably do Sonic 2 GG and -maybe- Chaos.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Parax on December 21, 2011, 03:03:28 pm
heh :P well I'm willing to do Generations, 06, Sonic 4, or Unleashed 360. might be willing to skype as well if i'm getting more comfortable with that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Werey on December 21, 2011, 03:42:44 pm
I could do ASR with you and Groudon, Thorn. Also I would also do generations/sa2b/unleashed.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: SonicandInuyasha on December 21, 2011, 05:23:16 pm
I have Skype, so is there going to be any commentary when The game is showed? I would love to do Sonic Unleashed PS2, but I don't know how to stream games yet. I will love to join but only to watch and comment if there's any commentary on Skype.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Thorn on December 21, 2011, 05:26:32 pm
^ The point of the commentary is to be whenever the stream is going, and that includes during games.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: SonicandInuyasha on December 21, 2011, 05:41:25 pm
@Thorn: So this will not be like a BrainScratchComms type of thing? I don't know but I want to join or help with something.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: yse on December 21, 2011, 05:54:21 pm
Just posting to say that I'm definitely interested and will put my hand up to run games that I know well for the cause. :)

FF offered to co-op S3&K with me, so that would be really fun I think (I'm going to be in England all of next year, for the uninitiated).

Having been involved with the planning of a number of the SDA marathons now (which reminds me, I really should make my post advertising that soon...) I have a number of suggestions regarding how to get the most viewers and donations possible, but this idea isn't yet well formed enough to think about that just yet.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Firstkirbyever on December 21, 2011, 06:33:11 pm
Yeah, I'm willing to do Rivals/Rivals 2, Unleashed, Colors, or Generations. However, I'll probably only do Unleashed/Colors if no one else decides to.

Also, why not top if off with a Sonic Generations race? Since, you know. A lot of people are after the love.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: werster on December 21, 2011, 07:16:59 pm
Tails' Skypatrol is not worth showing off it is one of if not the worst and boring piece of crap ever and is also impossible to do without dying. Sonic Labyrinth on the other hand is brilliant and should be showcased to full extent.

If needed and able to set up stream I could certainly push in for a few games, S2, S3K, S2GG, Labrinyth, Tails' Adventure, Chaos, Fighters, Sadv3 and maybe Heroes are all games I could easily learn and run if no one else better puts their hand up.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: bertin on December 21, 2011, 08:38:07 pm
I'm willing to do nearly any Game Gear sonic game and possibly a few 3D sonics If needed. (Maybe Sonic CD?)
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Zeupar on December 21, 2011, 08:52:09 pm
I could do Sonic Advance and Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing with Banjo-Kazooie.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Luxray on December 22, 2011, 02:19:21 am
If i can obtain either a better computer capable of DS emulation && a 4 button usb controller || a high definition camera with output/streaming capabilities, I'd be more than willing to help with Rush Adventure and Colours DS. I'm not proficient enough for Rush so I'm going to pass on that.

Also if i somehow obtain a PSP-2000 or later with previously mentioned auxiliary cables so i can stream, I'll also do Rivals 2, and maybe Rivals 1. It'd be nice to have a O button that actually works so i can reach the upper time limits of the levels.

Perhaps the best way to do this (the massive marathon multiplayer games) is to follow the age old prophecies in getting together a TSC Convention?*bricked*
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: ptorflaxendrosis on December 22, 2011, 05:39:22 pm
I assume this will be a long way away, but when do you think this will take place?

I'm just wondering because atm I have awful internet, and I'm getting better internet in a week or so. Then I should be able to stream. I'd like to think that several attempts at LPing would make me knowledgable for commentary, meaning it probably wouldn't be boring to watch. I'd be willing to do:

- Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - In the list of games at the top of this topic it says a run from one story and show green hill too. Does that mean beat one story, then go play greeh hill? or is that referring to SADX or Heroes? Either way, I'd do a story mode run.

- Sonic Colours Wii - Egg Shuttle run and possible a few Game Land stages, sounds great! I'm not sure what the plan would be exactly for the Game Land stuff, but it doesn't matter, really.

- Blue Sphere - I'm not sure exactly how interested people would be in watching someone play Blue Sphere, but I'd do it. I'm fairly good at it, and I have Mega Collection.

All in all it seems like a great idea, I'm more than willing to contribute! :)
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: SonicandInuyasha on December 23, 2011, 12:34:50 am
I think we should add Somari to the list. lolololololol
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Firstkirbyever on December 23, 2011, 01:25:08 am
If anything, Shadowjackey should commentate every single stream... Ever.

I will keep pushing for this until it happens.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Taco on December 23, 2011, 02:16:44 am
I haven't played any of these games since highschool (holy shit that was 8 years ago...I feel old...) but if you guys end up doing this and there's room, and wouldn't mind witnessing a run which I can only assume will be humorous after not having played these games for 8 freaking years, then I wouldn't mind partaking.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Bilan on December 23, 2011, 02:55:34 am
:O!

HI TACO!

IT HAS BEEN FAR TOO LONG.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: bertin on December 23, 2011, 03:19:23 am
Also I nominate Sonicandamy for commentary. I'm being dead serious.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Shadow Jacky on December 23, 2011, 03:19:43 am
I wouldn't mind commentating.

I just don't feel comfortable volunteering to run anything until I get the equipment I need.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: DsSaster on December 23, 2011, 04:56:45 am
I second Sonicandamy for commentary. Also, I wouldn't mind doing something for Sonic Heroes...MAYBE!
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Ring Rush on December 25, 2011, 01:02:30 am
SSR is a terrible marathon game because it starts out horribly, horribly slow and boring and never really picks up unless you play for 10+ hours. It is short though.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: FuzZerd on December 25, 2011, 06:24:25 pm
I don't know how to stream or I would try and run some of the main series <_<.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: werster on January 02, 2012, 05:43:14 am
So clearly we have enough support to do this, to cover plenty of games. I think it's time to actually gets some gears going and put together some ideas to put these into motion.
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Spinballwizard on January 05, 2012, 08:49:12 pm
Thorn's trying to rope me in. >_>

No idea how I'd do the stream, but that can't be too hard (since clearly I'd emulate). Advance 2 I can do with quite a bit of confidence. I'm a bit rusty (since I haven't submitted anything in over 2 years), but once I start playing again the routes should come down. (Disclaimer: not so much for anything Music Plant, IP1 or TB2 not so much either.) I do have a controller so I should be able to airdash, which would put Sonic up for the run.

If need be I can do anything else in the advance series, but adv1 I'm just okay at, 3 would either be a lot of team juggling or me saying "screw it, S+T for everything, this is going to suck, especially CA3." I could do Rush too, but I hardly remember any of the routes.

Timing is a huge issue though, since I work full time and I'm in grad school. Weekends aren't an issue, but weekdays are. Mondays I have class, Tuesdays I go wargaming, Wednesdays class, Thursdays I usually go out drinking, Fridays are D&D. Though I am on spring break 2/20-2/24. (Might take that week off work too.)

Also I do have Skype for commentary. >_>
Title: Re: Return of "TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Very Very Early Planning Stages"
Post by: Thorn on January 05, 2012, 09:41:08 pm
I'm using this post to sort out who's volunteered for what, either in here or in chat, and the conditions under which people volunteered.


Taco needs a refresher on Sonic in general but can contribute. Cruizer's games will depend on if he can get the right equipment for them. danieldude has a bevy of games he volunteered for, but I want to see good stats out of him first in whatever games he wants to do (no disrespect meant, but we need a combination of good gameplay and entertaining commentary, and I need proof of at least one since I know neither of him); I very much appreciate his offer and will keep him in mind should he show his skills.
Title: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on January 06, 2012, 03:29:07 pm
I have removed the "Very Very" from the topic title, as we've made some progress. While we continue to plan, let's do some compare and contrast!

Respawn Point's second Sonic marathon (http://respawn-point.com/sonicmarathon/index.html) finished recently, and it accrued $2565 for Child's Play. They played the main story of most of the "main" games in the series with very few breaks for a week straight.

How are we similar? We've got a large list of games ready to play and the ability to actually finish them on a stream. We'll be playing at least every game they did (although we need somebody to volunteer for Sonic 1). We won't be nonentities: we have connections through Speed Demos Archive, and I intend to promote us on Sonic Retro, where many members know of TSC. Lastly, it's all for charity.

How are we different? We won't all be in one place, but instead using Skype, allowing TSCers to come and go at their leisure. We don't have a rigid timeline set, but I expect we'll be having shorter sessions over a longer time instead of having one long marathon: this removes some of the allure, but also gives us more cushion in the case of schedule slip and lets us stream at times when we can get the most viewers and donators. We may involve other Sonic Team fan communities. We have known skills at Sonic games that most other Sonic websites can't match. We'll be avoiding the main story in games that would take an entire day and jumping right into the parts that will draw crowds. Where their marathon only had 33 possible games and not all of them would be played, we already have volunteers for up to 36 games and us not streaming with no breaks means we can conceivably extend the marathon for more if the donations keep coming.

Given this information, I see no reason why we can't match their accrued donations or even surpass it. I'm not saying this to be competitive, but to justify getting this underway.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Bilan on January 06, 2012, 08:13:04 pm
On a serious note I know Thorn has put himself forward for it, but I would actually volunteer myself for doing a 100% Sonic R run, and I might have a practice at SPA to see if I can get competent at it again. Playing S06 co-op with emma has motivated me to try and help out as much as I can with this; there aren't terribly many games that I'm actually great at it instead of just good, so I'd like to throw my hat in the ring for those (I know I'm not really high ranked at Sonic R, but that's entirely because fuck those OOB glitches).
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: SonicandInuyasha on January 07, 2012, 12:22:18 pm
Hey Thorn, I also what to join Sonic 2, Sonic 4, Sonic Colors Wii and Sonic Generations. I know I don't have the game but I want to join anyway. I see lots of videos of it anyway.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on January 07, 2012, 06:30:31 pm
^ This isn't a list of who is commentating on what; we'll figure that out later. The list is for people who have volunteered to run through each game live, and if you don't have the game, you clearly can't do that.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Taillow on January 08, 2012, 02:53:09 am
Eh, fine.  I'll offer for Sonic Advance 3.  As long as it's not gonna be ridiculously soon.

On the plus side, I can relearn that horrible, horrible T+S R99-2 strat to get a nice T+S R99-3.  Though this only matters if I start from a fresh file.

Also I'd probably try the T+A CA3 strat a few times but I'll probably wimp out on the first platform flight if I fail it too many times.  (I recall the second platform being easy enough and the third just needing some mashing.)

I'd offer for Riders as well, but there's no way I'd be able to emulate that and I still don't have recording equipment for that >_>

Speaking of emulation, did any other marathons do so? <_<
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: MrSparkle on January 08, 2012, 03:51:05 am
I'm willing to stream s1. I'm plenty good enough to play the game in 1 sitting and not game over.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Spinballwizard on January 08, 2012, 02:33:46 pm
Yeaaaah, the only reason I didn't volunteer for S1 is because I can't TA it for anything.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on January 09, 2012, 03:49:03 pm
The list is being actively updated every day, so check back to see who's doing what.

@MrSparkle: With all due respect, "I'm plenty good enough to play [Sonic 1] in 1 sitting and not game over" isn't very encouraging or really what sets TSC's marathon apart from any other one. :s

I want to start getting time estimates on runs and performing test streams and Skype calls soon, since almost all games have a solid volunteer. Will anybody volunteer for Riders 1?
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: flying fox on January 09, 2012, 03:49:56 pm
Due to recent circumstances I'm going to have to drop S2GG and Chaos. You'll know why soon enough >_>
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Selphos on January 09, 2012, 04:13:42 pm
[13:08:26] <+Selphos> If I had any means of streaming consoles whatsoever
[13:08:29] <+Selphos> I'd fuckin' take Riders
[13:08:31] <+Selphos> JUST SAYING
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Shadow Jacky on January 09, 2012, 08:35:07 pm
wait, how soon is this going to happen?
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on January 09, 2012, 09:00:09 pm
^ It'll happen after all players prove that they can stream themselves and Skype simultaneously (either by Skyping themselves, or co-hosting one of us running Skype) and we get a few tests done to estimate the time spent on each game. Then we'll need two or three weeks to advertise before we kick things off.

EDIT: I was reminded in chat that alongside NiGHTS, Puyo, Billy Hatcher, and PSO, I failed to mention Ristar as a Sonic Team game. If anybody wants to run that and can do it to TSC standards, that would be awesomeness.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: SonicandInuyasha on January 10, 2012, 06:01:45 pm
@Thorn: My Skype is SonicandInuyasha. I have my real name after my username. Just so you know.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on January 10, 2012, 06:55:38 pm
So flying fox helped me test how viable a Mean Bean tournament would be for the marathon. Our matches can be viewed here (http://www.twitch.tv/thorntusc/b/305105278) at 2:00 and 6:45. The only two things I didn't do were test the streaming of a spectated match (which would require a third TSCer) and customize the visuals and voices (since the Japanese would freak participants out, and since a Sonic theme would simply sit better). Despite that, things look just fine, so

where doing it man
where MAKING THIS HAPEN
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: ptorflaxendrosis on January 10, 2012, 07:58:24 pm
My skype name is just "ptorflaxendrosis", and also, I had an idea for Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, if anyone's interested. We could do a low % type thing, and skip unnecessary items. I've been looking into low % in SA2B for a while and, with some help from some fellow TSCers, have found many items can be skipped. All of Sonic's items, all of shadow's, all of rouge's, all but one of knuckles', all but one of eggman's, and all but two of tails'. (on the GC version, which is what I have.)

It makes for a pretty interesting, and difficult twist to the story modes. I think people would be interested in seeing the tricks that have to be pulled off.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Spinballwizard on January 11, 2012, 05:43:19 pm
^ Considering we're going for speed anyways, only necessary items going to be collected anyways. (Hover and lightspeed dash are both necessary for that; obviously things like armor powerups are going to be skipped.)

So flying fox helped me test how viable a Mean Bean tournament would be for the marathon.
YES. THIS MUST HAPPEN. CHALLENGE ACCEPTED. AND YOU ARE ALL GOING DOWN, I OWN THIS GAME.

</nerdgasm>

How feasible is it to stream Gens/Kaillera netplay? (At least from one side, realistically you wouldn't need both players streaming.) Because realistically we'd want to remain as close to the actual game as we can.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on January 11, 2012, 11:44:39 pm
^ Glad to see somebody's on board. :P It's really not feasible to expect emulator play to stay synched, especially with people who may not have done it before. There's also a big problem with Mean Bean (which uses the original Puyo Puyo rules) that makes tournaments a bad idea: you can't defend at all! A five-chain will fill an entire field, and there's no stopping it. flying fox reported control lag while I didn't have any lag at all, and I don't want the game to amount to a short race.

flying fox and I played using a beta version of Puyo Puyo VS 2 by Hernan (http://puyonexus.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2014). It has options for Puyo Pop Fever rules (the version from 15th Anniversary and 7, for the at most one Puyo player reading this) or Puyo Puyo 2 (Tsu) rules, and we used the latter. Tsu differs from Mean Bean in four easy-to-understand, beneficial ways:If you're as serious as your nerdgasm suggests, you can always meet me for a few matches; I realized I still have more things to test and I just plain like the game.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Combo on January 11, 2012, 11:59:09 pm
Mean Bean is win.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on January 12, 2012, 08:42:30 pm
^ Good to hear, because Emerl, Selphos, and I just came off of an hour of three-player Puyo Puyo Tsu and Puyo Pop Fever, and it worked incredibly smoothly. There is pretty much no way this isn't happening for the marathon now (yes I said that before, but I forgot to test more than two players).

It was fun and I would like for it to be a thing like TSC Mafia or Toulouse or SRB2 were. :(
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: werster on January 13, 2012, 07:15:10 am
Well I found out Mike took Gems Collection with him, which means imma have to drop Fighters. I figured out how to stream console + skype decently on this internet so I'll do a test soon, but I can not for the life of me figure out how to do it well on emulator, which rules out the thoughts I had of running sonic 1 as well :(

Oh, I think that means Advance 3 is on Quartz too because iono what happened to that cart either <_<
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on January 13, 2012, 06:49:59 pm
Quote from: Axon
I can do Tails Adventures. Here's one of my runs.

http://www.justin.tv/axon64/b/302334525

Posted here after it was accidentally put in CF's old topic.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: ptorflaxendrosis on January 13, 2012, 07:06:18 pm
Can some people tell me their opinion on my low upgrades run idea for SA2B? I think it would be interesting to see, but I want some other opinions. :P
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Axon on January 13, 2012, 07:15:07 pm
Quote from: Axon
I can do Tails Adventures. Here's one of my runs.

http://www.justin.tv/axon64/b/302334525

Posted here after it was accidentally put in CF's old topic.
Oops, sorry about that. Thanks for fixing it.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Venick409 on January 13, 2012, 07:17:25 pm
I Can Run Sonic Labyrinth, Sonic Adventure (Amy's Story)

Sonic Labyrinth in 19:55: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCHkU3a9H34 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCHkU3a9H34)  I got that in about a week, so I could improve it by a lot before the marathon.

Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Spinballwizard on January 13, 2012, 07:31:19 pm
I figured out how to stream console + skype decently on this internet so I'll do a test soon, but I can not for the life of me figure out how to do it well on emulator, which rules out the thoughts I had of running sonic 1 as well :(
This is relevant information for me considering I'd be emulating Advance 2 since I have no webcams or GB players or any of that. But I haven't done any tests or anything on that since I am a complete dumbass when it comes to streaming since I've never done it before and I'm lazy.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: SqwareEcks on January 14, 2012, 01:04:25 pm
Can some people tell me their opinion on my low upgrades run idea for SA2B? I think it would be interesting to see, but I want some other opinions. :P

I think it would be very entertaining to watch because of the tricks and alternate routes that have to be utilized. I'm definitely interested in seeing it.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: ptorflaxendrosis on January 14, 2012, 02:24:11 pm
Thanks for you opinion :) I'm definitely interested in it, and I really want to do it in stream, if I were to be the one doing it for the marathon.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: yse on January 21, 2012, 11:24:21 am
Just thought I'd note that I'm officially withdrawing my services (though it looks like Thorn has already edited me out of the preliminary schedule). If you really need to know why, find me on SDA and PM me.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: CrypticJacknife on January 29, 2012, 02:20:23 am
Forgive me for not wanting to read through 3 pages of text, but hs it been mention whether this will be a global or a local based marathon?
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: werster on January 29, 2012, 03:33:30 am
Global mate.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Werey on January 31, 2012, 09:58:02 am
Totally forgot about this topic.. and didn't see the list until now. I was supposed to say I'm in for Unleashed 360 as Unleashed Wii is no longer an option, (plus i suck at ti)
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Spinballwizard on February 02, 2012, 10:35:26 pm
Did a trial run of Adva2. I need work...

LF1 - 49.68
LF2 - 48.95
LFB - 15.72
HC1 - 1:01.99
HC2 - 1:05.80
HCB - 20.62 (Technically a PR but since it wasn't in TA mode it doesn't count.)
MP1 - 1:20.85
MP2 - 2:02.92 :/
MPB - 44.67
IP1 - 1:41.35
IP2 - 1:00.13 (I was embarrassed by crossing the minute mark... even 50 would've sufficed considering how bad I was doing)
IPB - 20.92
SC1 - 1:16.95
SC2 - 1:35.12 (Ugh.)
SCB - 1:35.03 (Paranoia)
TB1 - 2:22.52 (Blegh)
TB2 - 1:42.50
TBB - 46.40
EU1 - 2:22.85 :/
EU2 - 1:52.27 (Started out good...)
EUB - 45.50
XX - 4:36.85 (Ugh.)

...Yeah.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Werey on February 06, 2012, 08:51:32 am
Had a chat with some of my friends, Quite a few of them are willing to watch our streams and possibly even donate. They're pretty supportive of it since they know how much Sonic is a part of my life.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Combo on February 23, 2012, 06:20:15 pm
Did a trial run of Adva2. I need work...

LF1 - 49.68
LF2 - 48.95
LFB - 15.72
HC1 - 1:01.99
HC2 - 1:05.80
HCB - 20.62 (Technically a PR but since it wasn't in TA mode it doesn't count.)
MP1 - 1:20.85
MP2 - 2:02.92 :/
MPB - 44.67
IP1 - 1:41.35
IP2 - 1:00.13 (I was embarrassed by crossing the minute mark... even 50 would've sufficed considering how bad I was doing)
IPB - 20.92
SC1 - 1:16.95
SC2 - 1:35.12 (Ugh.)
SCB - 1:35.03 (Paranoia)
TB1 - 2:22.52 (Blegh)
TB2 - 1:42.50
TBB - 46.40
EU1 - 2:22.85 :/
EU2 - 1:52.27 (Started out good...)
EUB - 45.50
XX - 4:36.85 (Ugh.)

...Yeah.
GL I'LL BE ROOTING FOR YA! =]
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on February 23, 2012, 06:26:01 pm
Right, so it's been about a month since I did anything in here. It's at this time that I'd like to start calling for quality tests from prospective streamers/commentators (streamers should note that they'll have Skype running during their stream, eating some bandwidth). The month -long delay in progress does have an upside: calling for tests now should serve to show who actually plans to stream (people that are still reading this thread) and who jumped in without thinking long-term (people who signed up, then forgot about it).
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Werey on February 25, 2012, 09:37:37 am
Well, as I said, I'm still waiting about a week or two for my friends cut if the capture card then ill be up and running, but if that's too late, ill have to pull out.

Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Firstkirbyever on February 25, 2012, 03:00:20 pm
I'm still up for streaming Rivals & Rivals 2. I just need to grab my Battery from a friend and I should be able to do some tests.

Just a note, the way I stream with PSP (Remotejoy) has one slight issue with Rivals/Rivals 2... Sometimes the level glitches up however it's pretty rare. (Actually, it's more or less of the Textures not loading since remotejoy constantly runs from the Memory Stick, while the game also runs from the Memory Stick to decrease loading times.)
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: bertin on February 27, 2012, 01:47:18 pm
I forgot to mention. If you are allowing Drift 2 put me up to run that as well.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Spinballwizard on February 27, 2012, 06:20:33 pm
Right, so it's been about a month since I did anything in here. It's at this time that I'd like to start calling for quality tests from prospective streamers/commentators (streamers should note that they'll have Skype running during their stream, eating some bandwidth).
Yeah, at some point (Thursday or Sunday are my next free days in the coming week) I should see if I can even attempt it or not; someone's going to have to go over stuff with me, since I have no clue what I'm doing.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: MrSparkle on February 28, 2012, 02:07:36 am
My offer to run s1 fell through, but I've been practicing s2k like crazy since. I'm confident I can beat s2k without any continues, pretty quickly.

Hey, I may not be the best, but you need backups.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on March 14, 2012, 07:34:51 pm
Right, so it's been about a month since I did anything in here. It's at this time that I'd like to start calling for quality tests from prospective streamers/commentators (streamers should note that they'll have Skype running during their stream, eating some bandwidth). The month -long delay in progress does have an upside: calling for tests now should serve to show who actually plans to stream (people that are still reading this thread) and who jumped in without thinking long-term (people who signed up, then forgot about it).

By the way, guys, I was serious. Those of you that haven't made the attempt to send me anything (not counting those of you that I've watched stream or that sent me stuff before the post) need to get on this, because by the end of the month I intend to start making a rough draft of a schedule. If you're the best out there at a game but you don't prove to me that you can stream, then I will pass you up and get somebody who can stream to do it, or even stream it myself if I must (fear my averageness! (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/thorn|order:percent:down)).
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Spinballwizard on March 14, 2012, 07:49:27 pm
A lot of my stuff is kinda time-intense right now since the semester's almost over, but I'm still going to try to do something. I'll try to be online tomorrow evening (though at 9 I have to do a server test for someone), or Sunday (hangover permitting) to see if I can figure out how to do this stuff. Problem for me is that at current I have very little free time.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on March 19, 2012, 08:20:30 pm
I'm thinking that perhaps a few of us could get together for a test Skype and stream soon. How many potential streamers would be available at, say, Friday 7:00 PM EDT? We'd meet in chat, share Skype information and whatnot, discuss streaming to a TSC-specific channel (not created yet), then move on to taking turns streaming our games and Skype for 20-30 minutes at a time.

If you can't do it at this time, when can you do it? This time was a suggestion and it won't happen unless I can get at least three or four people besides myself to commit to it. Anybody who hasn't done a test stream yet can use this as good practice.

EDIT: If you can't be available exactly then, but perhaps you have some time to spare close to this, say so. I know that people on the US West Coast will still be at work or just getting out of school and that people in Europe will be asleep.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Spinballwizard on March 21, 2012, 04:59:29 pm
Friday's completely out for me. I'm cool Thursday before 9 (EDT, after which I'm helping load test a server for something I'm doing Saturday), and otherwise not for another week-ish. (Busy weekend again.)

Thorn I'll actually try to be on chat tomorrow and maybe somehow organize something.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Spinballwizard on March 22, 2012, 08:55:28 pm
Yay, streaming works! Still can't be on tomorrow though.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Naegleria on March 28, 2012, 12:40:36 pm
Howdy, I ran Sonic 1 at SDA's last marathon, and I've been in contact with Zeupar about running for TSC's marathon.  I've been learning Sonic 2 for SDA's next marathon, so if nobody else is willing to run Sonic 2 I would be willing too.  I'm nowhere near as good at Sonic 2 as mike89 or some of you folks here might be though.  I don't have any experience with 100% runs of Sonic 1 or Sonic 2

I work night shift, 11 pm to 7 am mountain time.  I have Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday night off.  I typically go to sleep around 11 am, and get up at 5 pm.

I have 80 Mbs down and 5 Mbs up, so I should be able to handle skype calls while streaming.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Combo on April 14, 2012, 05:46:01 pm
Bump!

So what's going on with this!? O:

Any games that are still missing?  I can probably practice a bit and try them out if they're something I'm familiar with (sonic advance series, soinc 1-3).  I can even try speedrunning your hack!

Would like some help with making my streams better though, mostly with the audio.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on June 19, 2012, 04:07:23 pm
So, um, it's been a while and things have happened. werster managed the ban trifecta of site ban, chat ban, and submissions ban, thus SonicAD has requested that he not represent TSC (and I surmised that as much would happen in a conversation with another admin before the final ban was set in place). Despite having months to get things sorted out, a few people decided that they didn't need to prove that they could stream even though I've never seen them do so; these people are being removed from the marathon. Here's the old list, with the new information accounted for.


As you can see, the list narrowed down quite a bit, and a few people need to prove they're still alive before I cement who's doing what. A good chunk of the responsibility has fallen on bertin (at least the 8-bit games are short), and I'm hoping that some people volunteer to take over some games for him if it's too much for him. If games end up getting zero volunteers, then I will ask the current volunteers to pick up the slack and will of course help with that myself. If all else fails, I still believe that we have a sufficiently large game list, and we can always do more with the games we have (e.g., story mode instead of selecting choice stages). I will be checking with people in chat about a potential test stream (again) instead of leaving a message on the forums.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Strong Bad on June 19, 2012, 09:01:38 pm
I can run S3 Grand Prix if it's desired. I can stream for certain, been messing w/ my stream for the past week or so. I could do it with all 3 chars I suppose, since it's so short?
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Shadow Jacky on June 21, 2012, 02:44:35 am
go ahead and put me down for Sonic Heroes...
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Spinballwizard on June 21, 2012, 06:53:35 am
I'm around, just too lazy to log into chat half the time. >_>

Email is a good way to grab my attention. Weekends are good, I start school back again in September. Haven't looked into my lack of voice on a stream though. If all else fails I can put Skype on my laptop, Skype from there, and work into the stream from there.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Combo on June 21, 2012, 12:23:43 pm
I need to mess with my stream again sometime. :v  Might be able to do Sonic Advance 3 maybe if needed.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on June 26, 2012, 09:11:10 pm
We still need a test stream.

<Strong_Bad> thorn: sounds good, set up dat account and let's test it out say sunday?
<Thorn> I'll be at work Sunday, may be available around 9 PM EDT but definitely not much earlier

Can anybody else make it at this time? The idea will be for us to convene on Skype (can meet in IRC first if that's more convenient) and to each stream a game we're doing for the marathon within a short time window. The window would be 20 minutes or so; this is too short for most people's runs, so it'll be a good gauge of how well people can look at the clock during the game and cut it off when their time is up (as if they were running late during the actual marathon due to a bad run or technical issues). This is also too long for Strong Bad's run, so he can show us how to provide filler if the next person isn't ready.

I've had some people ask me why I'm trying to get a test run with a few people instead of just scheduling a date and starting to advertise. There's a few reasons. I want to make sure that everybody can set up their stream quickly without screw-ups, starting right when the previous streamer is done if they have to cut it short. During the real marathon, having to stop the stream because your video capture is set up wrong or you screwed up the audio (e.g., missed the game or Skype audio or both) is precious time wasted if your time window is short. I want to make sure that people have the level of skill that they think they do. I also want to make sure that everybody can stream to the TSC Marathon channel (will be set up by the time of the test stream). Once the test stream is over, there will only be two more steps before we schedule dates and times: we'll need to know how long each game should take to get a real time window, and we'll need to see what games can be streamed that nobody's volunteered for.

Reply here if you can make it at 9 PM EDT on Sunday (for reference, it's 9:10 PM EDT on Tuesday at the time of this post).
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Combo on June 27, 2012, 02:41:57 am
Well I would have to do some tests sometime before that so I can set up my stuff to not be crappy, and see if I can stream with Skype (and DL that too!).  That time sounds fine to me.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Spinballwizard on June 27, 2012, 06:58:13 am
I have D&D at that particular time. :/

I'd hop on late but work in the morning.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: flying fox on June 27, 2012, 09:57:09 am
Ok I'm going to say the same thing I said on the SCD topic on SDA. My laptop has died and I'm not really in a position to do any streaming at the moment. I will be buying a new one sometime soon. I can stream from the desktop so if there's any games that can be played on emulator that needs doing, I could try and pick it up. As for consoles, I would need to buy something so I can stream them. As for S3&K co-op I don't know if RPG would still play it with me I'll have a word with him as soon as he wakes up.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Mid-to-Late Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on July 16, 2012, 06:51:21 pm
This post is long overdue.

So a test stream did occur -- not on the expected date, but it happened the next day, so eh. We had five or six people commentating and four streams, and there weren't any obvious issues switching between streams, with Skype audible on each one. We have a few kinks to iron out (namely, how exactly to manage the stream channel), but I feel we can get those resolved in time.

What I need now is info about the games being run and the people streaming them. I need to know how long a game will take to show off (remember, you don't have to play to an obvious "game complete" point, so stream what you like) and if there's certain times that a person cannot stream due to work or school. I'd like to have the streams take place starting around 2 PM EDT and lasting no later than midnight, in the interest of getting at least part of the stream at convenient times for people in Britland or Aussieland without us streaming 24 hours each day. If we get our shit together, we could possibly have the planning done within two weeks, advertise for three weeks, and have the marathon in late August before many of you go back to school. That's a BIG IF, though.

We're on a new page and some slight changes have taken place, so here's the listing again. Even if some "maybe, maybe not" games become "maybe not", we have about 25 games on display.

Sonic and Sonic Team games still unplayed:
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Early Planning Stages
Post by: Combo on July 16, 2012, 10:33:32 pm
I need to test this out with skype sometime with ya.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on July 24, 2012, 11:07:01 pm
Since I've gotten minimal feedback with respect to how long each run will take, I've made my best estimates (erring on the long side) and created a sample schedule.

All times are EDT.

Tuesday, August 21
2:00 PMSonic the Hedgehog (1991) (Genesis)No EmeraldsNaegleria
2:30 PMSonic the Hedgehog 2 (Genesis)No EmeraldsNaegleria
3:00 PMSonic AdventureTails' storybertin
3:40 PMSonic 8-bit gamesVarious 8-bit gamesbertin
6:45 PMSonic the Hedgehog (2006)Sonic's storyDarkspinesSonic
8:30 PMSonic 3D Blast (Saturn)All EmeraldsThorn
Wednesday, August 22
2:00 PMSonic 3 & KnucklesDonations for character - no EmeraldsSpinDashMaster
3:30 PMSonic 3 & KnucklesGrand PrixStrong Bad
3:45 PMSonic R100% completionDarkspinesSonic
4:15 PMSonic 4 Episode 1 (Console/PC)Starting with all EmeraldsThorn
5:15 PMSonic Adventure 2Story mode
7:15 PMSonic Advance 2Sonic - starting with all EmeraldsCombo
8:00 PMSonic CD (Sega CD)No Time Stonesbertin
8:30 PMSonic Advance 3Starting with all EmeraldsCombo (tentative)
Thursday, August 23
1:00 PMNiGHTS into Dreams...All A-rankscharlie
2:30 PMChristmas NiGHTS into Dreams...charlie
3:15 PMNiGHTS: Journey of DreamsVarious missionscharlie
4:30 PMSonic RidersBoth storiesDarkspinesSonic
5:30 PMSonic Unleashed (PS3/360)Various acts
7:30 PMSonic RivalsSonic's storyDarkspinesSonic
8:30 PMSonic Riders: Zero GravityBoth storiesThorn
Friday, August 24
2:00 PMSonic 4 Episode 2Starting with all EmeraldsThorn
4:00 PMSonic Unleashed (Wii/PS2)Various acts
5:30 PMSonic & SEGA All Stars RacingXbox Live online playGroudon, Thorn, Werey, Zeupar
7:30 PMDr. Robotnik's Me Puyo Puyo VS 2Puyo Pop tournamentThorn, audience
Saturday, August 25
1:00 PMRistar (Genesis)No bonus roundsGamble
2:00 PM (approx.)Knuckles' ChaotixCo-op playThorn, BargainGamer
4:00 PM (approx.)Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (Wii)   Dream Event playThorn, GerbilSoft, BargainGamer, LilyBlade
5:00 PM (approx.)Sonic the Hedgehog GenesisTrying to maintain sanityMrSparkle
6:00 PM (approx.)Sonic Shuffle7-Precioustone Versus matchThorn, GerbilSoft, BargainGamer, LilyBlade
8:30 PM (approx.)Fan worksMiscellaneous fan games and hacks   
Sunday, August 26
2:00 PMSonic Rivals 2Sonic's storyDarkspinesSonic
3:30 PMShadow the HedgehogNeutral pathbertin
4:00 PMSonic AdvanceKnuckles - starting with all Emeraldsfootbigmike
4:30 PMSonic Colors (Wii)Egg ShuttleDarkspinesSonic
6:00 PMSonic HeroesSuper HardShadow Jacky
7:30 PMSonic Jam (Saturn)Sonic WorldThorn
8:00 PMSonic Generations (Console/PC)Various Acts and ChallengesDarkspinesSonic

Streamers, it is your responsibility to see if these time windows are practical.
If you can't be available for a time, tell me so that we can move things around. If your time window is overly long, and you didn't try a test run, you can blame only yourself, and likewise for having too small of a window.

You can see that some games don't have a hard decision on who's doing them yet: I'm looking to have some of the not-Sonic Sonic Team games covered by members of their communities, and some games still have two people listed as running them when only one is necessary. Miscellany listings will be ironed out once I know what fixes need to be made to this schedule.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: Combo on July 25, 2012, 04:04:48 am
So these times are set in stone? 

I can do Sonic Advance 2 in under 30 minutes.  Haven't bothered with Sonic Advance 3 much, but looks like it's at the end of the day so no problem.  No worries on me half assin' it either, I'll make sure to practice that game for most of August.  I did notice a few differences between the actual game and emulator though, hope that won't be much of a problem later.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: yoshifan on July 25, 2012, 04:11:42 am
Thorn said it's a sample schedule, so no, not set in stone.  However, he's emphasizing that more of the runners really need to provide time estimates for their games soon, so that the schedule can be made more accurate.

To clarify: be sure to provide real time (not game time) estimates, and account for possible mistakes/game trolling, as well as pre-game setup time.  As a rule of thumb, assume at least 5, perhaps closer to 10 minutes for setup time.

Also, if there's a particular day or time of day when you can't stream, then that's important to mention too.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on July 25, 2012, 01:45:19 pm
^ Pretty much this. You need to find what aspect of the game you should stream or even figure out if you're open to whatever (for example, we can accept donations for character choice if you're flexible and you know that they'll all fit into a certain window). You need to figure out your run's length assuming the maximum time spent due to Live Stream Bullshit Variance (henceforth LSBV). For example, Tails Adventures can be done in a half hour with glitches, but if they suddenly don't work properly on live stream, Axon has a full hour to go through the game without them.

Once you've got that figured out, you need to plan for what happens if you have minimal LSBV -- we won't start the next stream early because that's not fair to audience members that plan to show up at a certain time. You'll want to seek out other aspects of your game that can be streamed after the main run: if SDM finishes early, he could perhaps play Blue Sphere; if the Puyo tourney ends way early, we'll run a few Fever mode rounds. Special Stages and bonus rounds are good candidates for filling time, as are levels that don't exist in story mode (e.g., Green Hill in Sonic Adventure 2 and extra courses in the Riders games).

I wouldn't worry too much about setup time eating into your time window, as you should be starting your setup during the previous stream. I did a test stream with several people to see how quickly we could get the stream up and running when players switched, and nobody took more than two minutes past their start time since we all prepared beforehand.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: Combo on July 25, 2012, 09:21:09 pm
Ah alright.  Well that 30 minute time is a real time estamate.  The run I have recorded finishes at around 26 minutes real time, but I can make it 35 minutes if 30 sounds too little.  I can mess around with the extra characters if I have time, or do the extra boss (I suck at that).
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: THC98 on July 26, 2012, 10:29:51 pm
3:00 PM    Sonic Adventure    Tails' story       bertin

Hm... 1h and 30 min for this??? Tails' story can be done in under 30 min easily...
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on July 26, 2012, 10:34:53 pm
^ That originally said "Sonic's story". I'm waiting for bertin to give me a new time estimate, at which point that time window will be narrowed.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: Combo on August 05, 2012, 03:36:00 am
Is Xsplit still the best thing I could use for free?  Because when I tried it I couldn't start anything up because I needed the license to use it.  Also when I tried to uninstall it it wouldn't let me. >_>

Was gonna try livestream procaster but I couldn't use it because I only had 2 gigs of RAM (and maybe other stuff). :(
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: yoshifan on August 05, 2012, 07:08:47 pm
So I pretty much already told Thorn about this, but for SA2B:

I can run it (any of Hero, Dark, or Last story), but I'd like to be considered a backup, i.e. I'll play if no one else steps up.  I feel like I've already had my time in the spotlight with live-streaming this game, since I've streamed a lot of races with Zeph and played the game during Speed Demos Archive's AGDQ marathon.  I know there are a lot of excellent SA2B players here, and I'd love to see another SA2B player step up to run the game live and get some time in the spotlight.  Doesn't matter if they're particularly better than me or not.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: Thorn on August 05, 2012, 09:21:58 pm
Combo: If you want a truly free alternative, Flash Media Live Encoder and SCFH DSF (http://speedrunslive.com/tools/) work well. I would be happy to help you set things up, and I apologize that I wasn't available in IRC yesterday when you sent me a /msg (it was the first day in about five months that I had the opportunity to meet with real-life friends).

yoshifan: It's increasingly looking like it'll be you, even though I know you want to be a backup. Only Werey has volunteered to to play the game, and his capture device fried the instant he tried it. No amount of nagging has made any other TSCer step up. I have already stepped up to play many games that received zero volunteers, but my skill at SA2 is pretty much nonexistent. I very much appreciate you volunteering in the first place, and do let me know if you have any questions on things.
Title: Re: TSC Marathoning Shenanigans - Late Planning Stages
Post by: yoshifan on August 20, 2012, 04:47:33 am
Random things:

- Thorn's stream setup seems to work, after testing today.  Can get a good audio balance between game audio, his voice, and others on Skype.  Still has yet to test with an omni-directional mic, though, which would allow him and others in the same room to talk (particularly during M&S Winter Olympics and Shuffle).

- I've previously tried streaming while talking on Skype, so I'm good on that front.  (I have to use separate computers for streaming and Skyping, though, since my main laptop bluescreens when I do both streaming and Skyping on it.  This just means I can't stream while including a Skype call in my stream, so as long I'm not running the main stream, things are fine.)

- For Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, 2 hours should be an okay timeslot to do all 3 stories from a new game.  I expect the run to take around 1 hour 50 minutes, so accounting for setup and bad performance or luck, 2 hours should be just enough.  FYI, I'll skip the Hero and Dark credits with resets.  Also, I can also include a timer and run splits on my stream.

- So... Sonic Unleashed (Wii) doesn't have a runner right now.  After SA2B, I could maybe try to very quickly refresh myself on the basics on SUWii and... maybe run the game for the marathon.  I wouldn't expect it to be a pretty performance though.  Isn't there anyone who can stream and has played the game more recently than I have (my last stat was May 2009)?