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The Lounge => Wikkity! => Topic started by: General Throatstomper on September 30, 2006, 10:19:14 pm
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You know what? I'm tired of talking going on behind people's backs. Everyone has something to say about everyone else, but never when they're...there. Almost everyone has one personality trait that is undesirable, but nothing is said to them that would ever change it. Instead, they eventually hear about it when they are not meant to, and become more set in their ways because of it.
Now, I know that everyone, myself included, does it. But I'm tired about it, and figure I lose all right to complain if I don't at least try something.
Enter this topic.
By posting in this topic, you aknowledge that anybody posting in this topic can criticise you for anything dumb you may have done, and you will not hold it against them, no matter what they say. They can insult your character, they can slander your person, they can call you mean names. Which make you cry. And make you eat hohos and get fat.
Anyways, let's defy social convention. Only by telling people of their flaws can you hope to change them for the better. I'm all for being told what I do wrong. Besides which, people take things too seriously, and maybe this will help them put things in perspective.
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genus: You are an arse because you beat me at MKDS >_>
Everyone else: Im already aware that Im an idiot <_<
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Other than the fact that it should be "Intra-" in the topic title, you've hit the nail on the head.
I might hold things against Zephyr if he shows up in this topic, but nobody else. Honestly. (except you, you and you.)
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I'm pretty sure someone, somewhere, somehow, for some reason, has something to say about me. So spill it.
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Your overly arrogant
EDIT: @ Groudon >_>
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Ok, well, that sums up my feelings about you groudon.
Someone do me!
Anyways, I have only a few things to say.
RPG-you're too prolific for your own good. Cut down on being random.
mike-You're elitist. I mean, you like to make fun of the fact that people class things too much, but it's obvious.
groudon-one day you will fall from your throne. Really. Cut down on the arrogance and admit you're not good at everything.
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Oh, fine:
First, a general thing. I know that TSC is made up of a group of very intelligent individuals, and that in itself leaves itself open to people thinking they're well suited to running the show, so to speak. I know I'm guilty of this myself, so whilst being hypocritical I'll issue the ultimatum now: If you think you can do a better job than the three admins of running the show, issue the challenge.
genus, as we all know your behaviour has been called into question before. On multiple occasions. I mean I remember the old spammy blueblaze from the "good old days". Yet one day it was replaced with a new, thoughtful and insightful character, which from the Arch0wl incident we all knew existed. That character came with its own flaws, notably an overtendency to be too theoretical in your thinking: what might seem like a good idea to you really isn't. I know because I'm guilty of this as well.
RPG... where to begin? I think your main issue is overconfidence. Not on the scale of Groudon (more on that later), but enough to be an annoying little bastard when you want to be. Not so much an idiot as you claimed, indeed, quite the opposite, but don't let it get the better of you.
Groudon... you remind me of my brother. And anyone who has known me long enough will know my brother is not someone you want to be like. You're arrogant, you whinge like a baby when you don't get your way... just let it go. You're not going to have your way all the time, and if you react like that when you don't you're not going to keep a lot of friends.
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If you knew me in real life, you'd know I'm 100% different than on the Internet (not just TSC, but pretty much every site I go to). In real life, I'm very anti-social and often keep to myself. When it comes to the web, however, it's like I'm a completely different person. The Groudon you know is not the same one you might have a very random chance of running into on the streets.
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Groudon, I understand where you come from. The internet is a place to act completely different from how you do in real life, and be less passive agressive. That's why I'm always butting in with angsty things to say, because I regret saying nothing in real life. But still, there is a difference between that and just being a dick.
And can I bring up the incident about the questionable times you submitted? To be honest, few believe that you were telling the truth. I think that you are a bit sketchy. I've lied before, I know the habits-side stepping questions, saying little, and biding your time. I see most of these in you. Regardless of whether you are lying or aren't, if you do something dumb and leave, come back to TSC. It will feel good to see how much you have grown as a person.
Mike has said what I was thinking about RPG. So I'll say something about Mike. You're trying to be someone you're not. You attempt to seem nonchalant all the time, but when you do show interest it is in sharp contrast to your personality.
Anyways, moving on to what mike said about me...I have to agree. I put too much stock into what I say and get so full of myself that I always end up being philosophical. I did it yesterday, I'm doing it now, and I likely will keep doing it. But since I know that, maybe it will be to a lesser degree.
And was I really insightful then, or were you just saying that to soften what you were saying? I looked back and read the arch0wl incident. I realised how self-loathing he was and how he was trying to spark debate. I picked up on that now, but didn't then. So either I am insightful now, or I'm not but at least better than I was way back yonder.
Of course, I just ignored what mike said about me. I'll have to work on that.
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When I can think of something to say about the first 4 sentences, I'll post it.
And I knew someone would bring up that incident. I think those times were... Wait. I'm not saying something like I said in that topic. It'll just cause problems again. I knew it was still somewhere in everyone's minds, but it just seemed like they forgot. Never once after the debate faded did I think everyone completely forgot about it. So let's just not turn this topic into a duplication of the other one.
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Ahah, I love this topic already.
I tend to forget people I hold things against, but here are a few:
RPG: you spam too much, and as genus said, are too random. I personally find it a bit annoying when you keep talking about your personal life in the channel as well. Other than that, <3 you.
Groudon: dunno, I don't really mind your gloating (I never do), but your whole "strikes before I leave" thing and the fact that we still ain't sure if you're a liar or not doesn't sit well with me. If you were so determined to leave, whey are you now completely determined to be one of the most active people on this forum.
Oh man, there's got to be other people.
Oh, Aitamen. To the max. No explaination needed.
Now, on the other side of things, here are the people I totally respect.
mike89, Rolken, SadisticMystic, CherryMay, Marth, genus (I didn't when he came back, unlike everyone else, but I so changed my mind, congrats on changing for the better dude), Cybrax, Quartz, yoshifan aaand I think that's it. If you're not on both lists than I like you too. :D
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I knew it! One person brings it up again and that's what everything pointed at me turns into. Besides, that was the past. People change over time.
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I knew it! One person brings it up again and that's what everything pointed at me turns into. Besides, that was the past. People change over time.
Hum, I was just saying the people I hold things against, as you know, is the goal of this topic. If you don't like people saying bad things about you and don't want us to drift the topic to talk about it, than don't mention it everytime someone lists you in their post.
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F-Man: Stole my Pyramid Cave record that I worked very hard on, and made every SADX time attack record pretty much impossible to beat.
j/k, I really don't have anything against anyone here(yet) but if they have something against me lets hear it!
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I don't really have any grudges?
Meh, even though I do see CF as more of a twat than he actually his. But that isn't really anything major. :(
Um...
GIGGLESTICKS.Okay, that was unnecessary.
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Don't have any grudges either.
*Waits for someone to do me.* Until then, I'll just bring up that I'm eccentric (especially when trying to cause some laughs) and reckless.
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Hm, originally I thought that we were only saying what we really thought about people posting in the topic, but I guess we could expand it to other people. Some might be afraid of knowing what others feel about them, and remain withdrawn because of it.
Ok so on with the ranting. Even if I don't consider it a big deal, I will talk about everyone who has posted in the topic who has had nothing said about them. And groudon. Because like I said he tends to sidestep questions.
Groudon-If you didn't want to know what other people thought about you, then why did you post? You have a cloud over your head from the whole incident with the questionable times, one that has not dissapeared because you have provided no proof. If you really want to get this monkey off your back, do so. Removing the submissions only made you seem of more questionable character. Oh, and you are taking this too personally.
F-Man-Honestly, I don't have much to say about you that's negative. However, you do tend to be intimidating, and don't trust outsiders much. People will make mistakes, and you can't jump down their throats for it.
Paragon-Well, you really don't say much. But you do seem a bit too trusting, which is also bad. You're always giving people the benefit of the doubt, even if they don't deserve it (I can't recall a specific incident at the moment).
Spinballwizard-You seem to have changed since I left. Before, you seemed like you were willing to try new things, and would always try your best, with the assumption that you would get better. Now, you seem to have confidence issues and look like you're going through burnout. You just don't seem to care, and are afraid of what others think.
Magnum-I have lots to say about you. You may want to arm yourself with your trusty asterick beforehand. And then attempt to make us laugh to make up for a lack of character depth. However, most of what you say is really not amusing. I just do not get you. You'll monologue yourself into the eventual hole, and then you'll just quit. No offense of course.
Oh, and I'll just do a few people. I could easily talk about more, but won't for now.
Aitamen-You are overly dramatic and act like nobody understands you. When we do. And see that you just want to get attention and so ignore things like "*Aitamen laughs" in a situation where laughing generally is not something someone would do. Lighten up. And get an internet connection capable of going to TSC. Well actually, that makes what I posted about you irrelevant.
Alondite-Do you not understand that people want to accomplish things for themselves, and not have the solutions handed to them? We don't all want to know the secrets of [strike]DWM[/strike]life before we should. Really...or was that Antoshi? Not to mention that you are headstrong. And ignore the opinions of everyone else. I mean, there's a difference between arguing and despondantly clinging to what you believe in face with logic. Learn it. And respect that other people have opinions, and just because they differ from yours does not mean they are wrong. Plus, you are a bland person.
Antoshi-You whine too much, and have the same problem as Antoshi in regards to ignoring what other people say. Or maybe it was you who spoiled [strike]DWM[/strike]life...I don't remember. You too seem to be devoid of any sort of interesting personality, and blend in.
eggFL-You take everything as an insult. And have the same problems as Antoshi/Alondite. It's all well and dandy that you like what you do. It isn't that you try to force other people into liking the same and consider them inferior when they don't. Oh, not to mention how you say things just to seem different (your gametrailers review page among other things...).
knuckles_sonic8-Man, you're too ambitious and care too much. Stop that.
PsyBorg-Overly arrogant and angsty at times. Plus, you're paranoid.
I have more I could say about people, but I'll wait until they post, or I develop any major grudges. If I didn't say much about you, I probably don't consider it a big deal. If I said a lot about you, I probably don't consider it a big deal. If I said nothing about you, then kindly wait your turn.
Oh and as stated, consider it all a form of constructive criticism.
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I never said I didn't want anyone to mention that. I just didn't want the topic turning into a duplicate of the other, which is what it might as well turn into now.
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I'm not sure I want to get involved in this, I really only turn up in the chatroom when I'm bored/frustrated with work/tired/drunk, so you probably don't get the best of me :) That said, fire away anyway.
CF - yeah, he's a prick, but a funny one. I'm kinda like that, I think I'd really get on with him in real life.
RPG - random, yeah, but never comes across to me as forced random. If it's being yourself and not being what you think other people want you to be then it's cool.
yse - not spoken to him much, but gotta respect him as a pwning machine.
Rolk - good admin, seems to be a pretty laid back guy.
Damn, I'm being too nice. Umm . . . Quartz smells, Groudon rolls drunks for their petty change, Effy works as a rent-boy.
/me flee~
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RPG - random, yeah, but never comes across to me as forced random. If it's being yourself and not being what you think other people want you to be then thats cool.
Nay, thats what Im actually like, in RL too >_>
Oddly enough, the internets me isnt all that different from the RL me, 'cept the overconfidence, but thats mainly because in RL I tend to be underconfident and shy away from conflict
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Whoa there! Since when did I post, genus? And anyway, since when is caring a bad thing? And if you're referring just to my topic, then I think you're a bit out of league considering the circumstances
But, since I've been mentioned, I may as well have a part in this. Anything against me (I have a feeling there's a whole list ... :P).
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I gotta agree with ks8, genus. You completely went against the rules of the topic you created, so you pretty much broke your own rule.
By posting in this topic, you aknowledge that anybody posting in this topic can criticise you for anything dumb you may have done, and you will not hold it against them, no matter what they say. They can insult your character, they can slander your person, they can call you mean names. Which make you cry. And make you eat hohos and get fat.
You criticized users that hadn't posted in this topic at the time.
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He stated that he was going to break the norm of the topic thus far.
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Well, I tend to overlook things often.
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Spinballwizard-You seem to have changed since I left. Before, you seemed like you were willing to try new things, and would always try your best, with the assumption that you would get better. Now, you seem to have confidence issues and look like you're going through burnout. You just don't seem to care, and are afraid of what others think.
I've always had confidence issues, fu. Don't make me go into some long, lame, should-be-emo story. But I digress. I'd say more, but I gotta go to class.
/me flee
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Oh well, can't win them all. I'll just leave the crazy randomness to RPG and his infamous murdering topic. Perhaps why I don't seem to have character depth is because I really haven't talked that much about myself, my past, or any of that other junk. I've got tons of stories/misadventures to talk about, including one about my recent trip to Santa Cruz Island (the largest of the Channel Islands) two Saturdays ago.
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Magnum: That and you never come into the chatroom. >_> (Damn, that sounds almost like what genus said when I first joined TSC and he was like "Come into the chatroom..." -- after he said "You beat my longest-standing record" when I smashed Egg-Go-Round Cream. And I remember that even though the Great Downtime of 2005 destroyed all evidence of that post.)
genus: Anyways maybe I changed since you left genus because I basically became a TSC vet instead of a little TSC n00blet of sorts. That and I'm almost 21 as opposed to almost 19.
And if by "burnout" and "don't care" you mean "I'm not TAing much" it's because I'm fucking busy. As in I have classes 4 days a week, work 3-4, a couple sites to manage/mod, and I've developed a semi-life (if you could call it even that, considering the nerdish company) by drafting Magic: The Gathering on Friday nights. And occasionally going to college club hockey games. So I don't have as much time.
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I'm not really sure if I want to know what people think of me...
oh well, too late.
I know there were times when I acted like a complete retard in the past. It only makes sense. I'm really one of the more "special" members of the community :)
At the moment, I can't recall any times I've held grudges against others, though ever since I have been losing records in all 3 advance games, I have been mad at the individuals who have over-taken my records. I guess it's sort of natural, but I hate that I just assume anyone who beats a record I spent quite some time on is cheating. Of course, this is nobodies fault but my own, which doesn't really have much to do with the topic at hand now I think...
It's great to be back though
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I thought that was only me who felt that way Nintendan. I usually shrug it off and try to forget it, but I guess its on my mind for a reason. I try not to take these things seriously either to not cause me any headaches.
Anywho I dont think anyone here has anything on me. Even though I was among the first, I was never really social with everyone here till TSC came back up. My first paragraph (if you can call it that) was just directed to past competition that I let get to me.
these people though...
smizzla
Groundon
knuckles_sonic8
they bug me a bit...
I have seen improvements by others here who have joined recently and I have respect for most of the community here that I have seen either post here or in the chatroom.
also if you do have something on me, I dont count my typos >_>
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Oh SJ, I bug you? I was clueless! I thought you liked me... Guess I was wrong...
So what is it you don't like about me?
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And exactly how do I bug you? I don't quite see how I do.
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I'm puzzled myself but everyone has something against someone for SOMETHING I'm sure. There must be a reason but don't stress: he only said we bug 'em a BIT.
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Well... I guess I'll post. This is constructive criticism, so it shouldn't get me too angry
if someone says something kind of negative about me.
Just to make this into more of a post, I'll start criticizing F-Man. :P
He's mean because he beat most of my scores and Race times in SA. :(
Okay, being more serious, he's pretty generous with strats and stuff (more than I am).
I'm not sure whether to say he's very trusting or not trusting enough.
I think it balances out pretty well. And I think I might've been a little
un-trusting toward some people myself (not necessarily at TSC).
(No, it's not that I'm attacking him because he's my rival in SA.
It's that I've talked (and argued) with him more than with most other members here.)
And yeah, about myself... I tend to procrastinate and/or be lazy,
but I've fought that... not too badly, I guess. Hey, I can't do everything at once.
And I'm not sure about my sense of humor (in other words, random silliness sometimes).
Some people love it, but I wonder if maybe not everyone "gets"/likes it all the time.
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Well I didn't see it at first but it seems you changed your sig Groudon. I used to didn't like it, but it looks better. Also your past peronality (from what I seen in the chatroom), but I guess that got cleared up too (I think). It was some more things too, but I cant remember them all :p
knuckles_sonic8....you dont come in the chatroom when I have asked many times...what gives?
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knuckles_sonic8....you dont come in the chatroom when I have asked many times...what gives?
I highly don't classify that as a reason to think I bug you. I don't have to enter if I don't want to. Just PM me if you want to talk. Besides, I don't talk that much to people here, anyway, since I don't get many PM's. Besides, I tried once but I got confused so I didn't bother after that.
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I am (pleasantly?) surprised that this thread hasn't just turned into a flamewar of some degree.
On that note (or another note... whatev) hey hey HEY fu I didnt even post here and people are all up ons.
Well... two people... are up ons... to a minor degree.
ZING
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Hi CF :o
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On that note (or another note... whatev) hey hey HEY fu I didnt even post here and people are all up ons.
Well... two people... are up ons... to a minor degree.
What I thought you wanted people all up ons?
oicthatonlyappliestobouncy
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Quartz smells[/me]
Hey!
*sniff* Aw...
But seriously... I can't think of anything other than Groudon, but everyone already mentioned anger control. Feel free to say something about me. I wouldn't know what I'd do wrong other than not speaking as often.
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Okay, time for another batch. I'm bored as hell, so it's worth it.
CF - I dunno why it is that CF and I have never really got along in the past. Power getting to our heads perhaps? I dunno. So yeah maybe if CF didn't have as much power he would be cooler. *runs*
Quartz - Far too slow on the uptake. I'm sure everyone here is not particularly fond of explaining things to you a couple of times. It's just lucky you're a damn good TAer in that case.
Marth - TOO MUCH SMALL TEXT. MY EYES ARE BAD I CAN'T READ THAT CRAP
Various people, probably a statement at TSC in general - I've had the impression for a while that if I were a newbie here, I wouldn't stay for very long. This community seems to rub off as elitist and not particularly welcoming of newcomers - the exception being if they prove themselves very early on, at which point we class them as liars until the reverse is proven. I call time to put a stop to this.
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CF - I dunno why it is that CF and I have never really got along in the past. Power getting to our heads perhaps? I dunno. So yeah maybe if CF didn't have as much power he would be cooler. *runs*
wtf since when did we not get along.
Also I concur with what you said about elitism. As in, if I ever involve myself with "omg liar" discussion, it is generally to say wtf chillax everyone. But generally if there is someone new in the chatty, unless they prove themselves dumb in some way (which, in all honesty, many new people tend to do) they don't really get all that excluded.
*shurg*
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This post should add a page or two of criticisms.
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TEM-You're not funny. So don't try to be.
CosmicFalcon-You're clever, but...an arse?
Marth-for the first few months you were here, I thought F-Man had changed his nick and gotten more boring.
Discuss my inflammatory comments!
Oh and Rolk said Deep Thoughts is probably getting deleted.
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I already know what's wrong with me, I have an obscure amount of flaws that I don't really want to get into. Namely, I'm whiny, passive, underconfident, overly-frustrated and take things way too seriously.
Sprint: He has too much power. He almost never talks unless someone makes a mistake and he grinds it in your face. It's very annoying and uncalled for sometimes. He's elitist as well and everyone apparently agrees with him, no matter what. Overly arrogent.
CherryMay: We've had our differences, and due to her power, she's just banned me, despite who was wrong. Has anyone done anything about it? No. Most people are afraid of her, why, I don't know. When someone stands up to her, you get ridiculed. I exploded one day when she really pissed me off, and nothing is said to Cherry, just ban sonicam. Overly arrogent and neglective of opinions. Her way or the highway.
PsyBorg: Arrogent and annoying. A serious attitude adjustment is in need for him. I don't want to get into it with him as everyone knows about our bout.
eredani: Out of nowhere pwnage, like an assasin. It's hard to hate him and it's hard to like him.
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To be honest, if I wasn't "arrogant", I wouldn't have joined TSC. And secretly, on the inside, I bet many of you came here thinking that you had the potential to kick some ass too, despite how "modest" and "righteous" you may have seemed.
And also, I'm curious, is any of this really helping anybody? If you dislike what someone does, help them out or something, iunno. Really, it doesn't really seem as constructive as this should be.
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I'm well aware that competitions is basically all about showing off your skills and beating the other person(s). but the simple fact that "If I can't do it, then no one can because I'm the best" attitude is incredibly annoying and the disrespect that you showed me when you were just a mere new member was very unsettling. Although, you have apparently learned that other people do indeed know and have the potential of knowing more than you. Actions speak louder than words. Everyone has an arrogent side in them, but not to the degree of you, Groudon and the others. It's annoying and it's not appreciated.
Identifying the problem is always the first step in overcoming something. You have to fully aware of something that is wrong inorder to overcome it, or you won't know what's wrong. This topic is probably geared to allow people to let off some steam without the repercussions and a potential to help the person understand "Ok, people don't like this about me and I can see that it's also annoying others I'm around in real life, let me help myself and try to minimize (problem)". It's not telling you what to do, but it's telling you what you should do/work on.
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TEM-You're not funny. So don't try to be.
Aren't you also forgetting that I'm stupid, arrogant, lazy and have more cancelled TAS's than the Harper government has rejected promises? </deliberatelyunfunnyjoke>
And if you're not Canadian and didn't get that last joke gtfo n00bs. You're missing out on the best coujntry in the world (well, second to Britain, maybe).
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Marth-for the first few months you were here, I thought F-Man had changed his nick and gotten more boring.
I'm like F-Man??? (Okay, you just paid him a big compliment. :P
(Just kidding. I hope no one thought I'd seriously say something like that.))
So... if you're posting this in the criticism thread, does that mean that being like F-Man is a bad thing?
Or does it mean that F-Man's excitingness is the only thing that stops you from saying negative things about him?
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I think it would be nice to know my personality flaws..
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Zizou - is lol.
Oh what? Oh you mean intra-TSC constructive criticism...
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haha, true story though..